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[tuftymatt] 07/12/2022 10:22

A tiny island full of tiny minds was a view I heard recently.

Hard to argue with that based on our own Government in recent years and the attitudes of many.

[careful] 07/12/2022 09:35

If we get through to bleak January without a settlement, the CWU will be in a much weaker position.

The management in previous times have always surrendered when threatened with a Christmas disruption, but this year it is not working.

Not only are the various public sector unions coordinating their various actions, but HMG and the various managements are in response coordinating theirs.(Public sector and ex public sector that behave like public sector)

The Unions must feel that a breakthrough in any single dispute would be breaking the dam and that other victories would follow.
The opposite is also true, single failure by one group would weaken the position of the others.

By early January we shall get a clearer picture.

[tuftymatt] 07/12/2022 09:20

Thanks and good luck to you NMRN 👍🏻

[not my real name] 07/12/2022 08:48

Lennonsalive

"going on strike regularly"

Last postal strike was 2009 so by 'regularly' I assume you mean every 13 years or so?

Pizza menus are easy and regular profits for RM as they are delivered to EVERY house so there is no dead mileage.

tuftymatt

"cheaper / less reliable carriers and into the likes of RM and ParcelForce."

RM are almost always the cheapest option for small parcels and large letters which is why Currys used them and couriers for larger, heavier stuff.

Strike is gradually losing strength. Around 10,000 strikers worked during the last 48 hour stoppage and numbers are increasing exponentially. If the union don't pull their finger out and thrash out a deal quickly they will lose what little credibility they still have. I will have lost around £2,500 by Xmas eve with no hope of ever getting it back. The company are offering 9% over 18 months and minimal changes to existing terms and conditions. Unions will accept NO alterations to Ts & Cs. Utter madness.

NMRN

[tuftymatt] 07/12/2022 07:41

Normally at this time of year customers move away from the cheaper / less reliable carriers and into the likes of RM and ParcelForce. This year it's the opposite which says it all really.

Next year I am convinced it will be sold off as it's bleeding out now at a greater rate than ever so needs saving while there is something left to save. Not what I wanted that's for sure but at the same time I want my money back from a business thats dying if I can get it.

[lennonsalive] 07/12/2022 07:07

I stopped paper billing for everything and took myself off the junk mail lists but still get pizza menus etc and they go straight to the recycling as I don't need a domino's menu each week.The one thing they do deliver for me are objects that I have bought that are large letter size or small parcel. However most shops are now using other couriers and that's quite alarming

[lennonsalive] 07/12/2022 07:04

Royal Mail has been a thorn in government's side for decades. Massive pension deficit, going on strike regularly and the unions wouldn't let them reform and modernise. Labour threatened privatisation unless RM got their act together and the coalition finally did it. Still it's not effective. I can see with Amazon, DPD, Hermes (hate em) etc how fair away a parcel and track it on a little map

[isis] 07/12/2022 06:54

And what exactly was wrong with Thatcher economics? The Country was in a complete mess at the time.

[isis] 06/12/2022 22:50

They are destroying the business.

[lennonsalive] 06/12/2022 21:53

Local post office told me today that special delivery (which is next day) from the 28th still haven't been delivered. Not sure if this is local, nationwide or just some locally as I didn't have time to get the details.

[exotic] 06/12/2022 19:23

"As of 4 July 2022, the fuel surcharge will be set to 8.0% due to a rise in domestic fuel costs."



Will they be reducing the fuel surcharge, since the oil price is far below what it was even before the start of the war?

[isis] 05/12/2022 23:26

The Fools are destroying the business and their own jobs, Industrial Suicide.

[casholaa] 05/12/2022 21:34

I think of it as a protection racket, I think of it as the posta nostra.

[casholaa] 05/12/2022 15:40

CWU has about 45m of assets and rakes in about 30m a year from contributions. They chuck a bung of about 750k at the Labour Party.

[blackhorse23] 05/12/2022 13:40

Bought some CURY at dip

[yieldmonkey] 05/12/2022 12:19

I wish people in government had the balls to take the strikers on instead of drip drip drip.

I support the right of a man to withhold his labour, but governments (and quasi nationalised businesses like RM) need to make a final offer and make its clear that's it.

By all means go all out on strike, but businesses like mine would rather have a full on strike till the workers need to go back than this constant and expensive disruption to business

[coxsmn] 04/12/2022 09:02

More businesses will drop RMG and never return.The Unions are sealing the groups fate.

[coxsmn] 04/12/2022 08:56

Royal Mail dropped by Currys as strikes threaten Christmas deliveries?Currys has dropped Royal Mail as a delivery provider to avoid damage from one of the country's most bitter industrial disputes in the crucial run up to Christmas.

[casholaa] 03/12/2022 13:55

The latest days off are 9, 11, 14 and 15 December. RM has updated its guidance for the latest posting dates to achieve a pre-xmas delivery to 12 December for 2nd Class post and 21 December for 1st Class post.

[isis] 03/12/2022 00:18

No surprise there!