International Distributions Services Plc

0.75 (0.38%)
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
International Distributions Services Plc LSE:IDS London Ordinary Share GB00BDVZYZ77 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.75 0.38% 197.85 6,387,491 16:35:21
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
197.05 197.30 200.00 196.85 200.00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Business Services, Nec 12,044.00 -873.00 - - 1,891.83
Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
17:55:55 O 4,823 197.88 GBX

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24/1/200508:10The Ideal investment for 2005-"cheaper than ASOS"315
02/1/200515:50ideal shopping better late than never126
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Posted at 18/5/2023 14:57 by not my real name
Can't believe the drop today. What were these sellers expecting from todays results?

Dan Kretinski must be licking his lips looking at the share price. Expect a rise in the next few days and an increase in his holdings RNS to follow.

Good luck to all holders,


Posted at 08/5/2023 20:26 by not my real name
Old news I'm afraid. May be an exclusive for Sky but was well known throughout RM that part of the deal was to get rid of him.

Thanks to Eastusk (post 717) for this link.

Now it's official it will probably make it easier for the Union to get their deal accepted and should provide a welcome boost for the share price in the morning. Fingers crossed!


Posted at 17/4/2023 13:23 by careful
Now lets see what they can do with the £12bn+ turnover.

Great potential here. Sold off too cheaply for £3.3bn over 8 years ago according to MP's estimates.
HMG took away the main burden of legacy pensions.
Here we are today at well below that level, but with great opportunities.

Gradually there will be a culture change but it is taking time.
Hard to believe we will ever re-visit the lows of recent times again.

Hoping for a £5+ share price over the next 2-3 years, 100% potential rise.

Posted at 10/4/2023 22:46 by greygeorge
Post Office Ltd is no longer part of IDS, it was carved out over a decade ago, as I already stated. HOWEVER, Post Office Ltd is obligated under contract to offer IDS services and ONLY IDS services to the public. At a ridiculously reduced payment rate for parcels acceptance. The subpostmasters are expected, amongst other things, to segregate the mails into 1st and 2nd, tag and seal the bags with the corresponding label, and hand to the collections officer. Some of these mails bags get randomly labelled by the collections officer with a red X label so that IDS can check random samples and 'fine' Post Office Ltd for non-compliance. this is one small, but effective way in which IDS - parcels, especially - robs from the taxpayer-funded Post Office to reduce their own overheads, whilst ensuring they have the monopoly on parcels post mailed by the Great British public.

IDS's 'profitable' parcels business is built on theft from the taxpayer in the form of Post Office subsidies, as well as the work performed by Royal Mail employees in collecting, sorting and shifting a massive tonnage of parcels, disguised as 'mails logistics'. Yes, by all means, let's let Post Office Ltd offer the whole range of courier services available in the free market, and let RM concentrate on letters deliveries, and in return IDS will run its' parcels business on the same terms and under the same rules as every other courier.

Then let's see just how long IDS remains such a miraculous cash cow.

Posted at 08/4/2023 14:45 by greygeorge
lefrene - That's an interesting outlook on how IDS could make money you've got there. So, if it just got rid of the loss-making bits, everything will be ok ? When IDS was Royal Mail, and Post Office Ltd was part of the group, it was supposedly Post Office Ltd that was the greatest loss-making division. Post Office Ltd was loss-making largely because it contracted with RMG (IDS as it was back then) at ridiculously low rates, to give the impression that RMG 'could be a winning company, if only it got rid of the loss-making Post Offices. So, they carved Post Office Ltd off the group, and it became a burden on the taxpayer so that RMG figures could look healthier pre-privatisation.

Now, you're being told IDS could be a profitable company, if only it could rid itself of the loss-making Royal Mail division. Do you see the pattern here ? IDS, when or if it sheds Royal Mail, will not be the golden goose you seem to think it should be. We're into the second decade now of IDS (RMG, as was) telling the world 'We could be such a great company, if only...'

Terrible management at all levels is endemic in IDS, yet it's never their fault that as a whole, the company is a fail.

Posted at 08/4/2023 11:28 by lefrene
Dumping RM plainly would be very good for IDS, and the share price. Let HM Gov that interferes so much, pick the thing up. Then continue to run it as a branch of the Civil Service at huge public expense, carrying other peoples mail at a huge loss, and running no end of mileage into obscure bits of the country everyday. Even the French have a more sensible system. The rural posties provide their own van and fuel, and only has to make a delivery once a week if there's insufficient mail to justify a daily journey.

If you're expecting urgent mail you phone the postie and go and collect it yourself.

It would be satisfying seeing the Mail service made profitable by the application of common sense, and the goodwill of motivated staff who's income is directly related to how well they were doing the job. We seem to be heading into a big slump, so perhaps now is the time for change towards efficiency.

Posted at 07/4/2023 14:03 by greygeorge
lefrene - '...the separation is done at the place of origin, and actually doesn't cause any extra work at all as it passes through the system. It's one of the few high profit ideas that worked at no extra cost...'

Yep, one of the greatest freebies royal Mail ever got. Over a decade ago, when Post Office Ltd was separated from Royal Mail, Post Office Ltd agreed that subpostmasters (and Post Office managers and staff in 'Crown Offices') would separate 1st and 2nd Class parcels as they received them from customers, at absolutely no extra cost to Royal Mail. I brought it up with the local CWU rep, who wasn't bothered that work was being taken from them at zero cost to Royal Mail. The 'National Federation of Subpostmasters who falsely called themselves a 'Union' betrayed their members - as usual - as they did in in the 'Horizon' disgrace (Judas George Thompson, who was Chief Executive of the NFSP actually told a Parliamentary Hearing looking into problems with the 'Horizon computer system that all Post Office convictions were sound, in his opinion because in every organisation 'there are a few bad apples' was always in the pocket of Post Office Ltd.

At the same time, Post Office Ltd signed a mails contract with Royal Mail, offering it's Post Office services to Royal Mail for 5 years at (approximately) 'inflation LESS 2%' which at the time meant Post Office Ltd was killing its' subpostmasters financially in order to prop up the share price and dividends for RM shareholders.

Anyway, I guess all those cost savings have run their course now, and IDS is being revealed as the financial basket case it has always been.

Posted at 29/3/2023 21:47 by not my real name
I do not see where this story about selling off GLS has come from. The company have clearly stated their plan would be to float GLS as a separate entity. Each IDS shareholder would be issue with 1 RNG and 1 GLS share for every IDS share held. Each company is already a separate legal identity under the banner of IDS holding company.

GSK did exactly that when they floated Haleon in June last year.

Under this scenario RMG would be effectively a dead duck but GLS (circa£400m annual profits) would be valued at around £4bn or £4 a share. That is why the IDS share price is not tanking when threats of insolvency are being bandied around.

The ideal scenario for shareholders would be to turn RMG into a £400m profit machine as well but if this is not possible...........second prize will do me!


Posted at 25/12/2022 10:17 by not my real name

"Losses from different directions"

I don't understand what you mean by this. RM lost £219m in the 6 months to September. GLS made a profit of £162m in the same period. This resulted in a combined loss of £57m.

The circa £2bn share price is due to analysts pretty much agreeing that GLS is worth around £4bn and RM around -£2bn. RM has plenty of assets which could be sold on in the event of total collapse and would more than cover all debts and provide a small return of cash to shareholders. This should leave GLS as a standalone company with a share price of around £4.

Much has been made of the £50bn pension black hole but ever since day 1 of the privatisation this has been the sole responsibility of HM government.

I don't really see why the share price is so low at the moment and can only imagine it is the uncertainty rather than reality that is keeping it so low. Apparently, all will be revealed by the end of January!

We can but hope!


Posted at 24/12/2022 13:19 by casholaa
When I look at the 5 year chart, it's pretty much showing what was in 2019, but it IDS and the general economic times, leave me with the impression that things are now worse than ever before. Am I the only one that thinks the IDS share price is well overpriced and doing that Wile E. Coyote stepping off a cliff moment???
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