Hsbc Share Discussion Threads

[porsche1945] 26/4/2021 10:36

@luke

Get yourself down to the adult learning centre. What a fxxking moron.

[luke141] 26/4/2021 09:41

Interesting information Estienne - but a bit odd to be posting a day before what will most likely be a positive beat on Q1 earnings .. I'm good with my HSBC shares ...

[estienne] 26/4/2021 09:30

From Questor:

So what will HSBC look like in five years’ time? Its own plan is that almost all of its business will be in Asia, with perhaps the sole exception of the British arm, yet it will remain headquartered, listed and regulated here. Is this tenable, and what are the consequences for investors if it’s not?

This column believes that such an arrangement cannot work. A London listing means Western attitudes towards governance among the board and investors. The gulf between those attitudes and what is going on in China and Hong Kong – whose previous de facto independence from the mainland under “one country, two systems” has been crushed – widens by the day.

How long before the increasing importance to institutional investors of ESG, supported by public and political disquiet over China’s behaviour, renders the new HSBC unworkable?

With hindsight we can now see that HSBC’s centre of gravity has never shifted from the Far East and the London listing remains an anomaly. A split is inevitable once the bank has made its planned disposals in Europe and America. There will, Questor predicts, be a giant Asian bank headquartered in Hong Kong and a smaller one based here.

The latter may make a suitable investment for readers but there are an awful lot of challenges to overcome first. HSBC’s proposed transformation is enormously complicated and there’s a lot that could go wrong.

Meanwhile the reason for which we advised readers to stick with the shares 14 months ago, the generous dividend, no longer holds. Paid at the time at 51 cents a year, it was axed on the orders of regulators during the first wave of the pandemic and has now been reinstated at just 15 cents.

The bank’s new policy is to pay shareholders 40pc-55pc of earnings and analysts at Investec, the bank, expect earnings per share of 34 cents and a dividend of 20 cents in the current year, which implies a yield of about 3.4pc at the current share price and exchange rate.

A not particularly generous income and a future of painful, intricate and expensive restructuring. There are better homes for your money.

Questor says: sell

Share price at close: 419p

[luke141] 26/4/2021 07:51

And by the way Porsche..air - anyone who predicts GBP will fall to what did you say .. 1.22 by end of year ?? Seriously ??

Short term is fine - long term in FX is totally ridiculous.


On the other hand GBP/JPY - lock stock and two smokin' barrels short term is working wonders ...

[luke141] 26/4/2021 07:11

LOL - Porsche 1939 … ::))

Seriously - you are the reason stock markets exist ..

Re: Coin - it’s a Two-Up Coin Flip - pay attention to regulation if it gets out of hand you silly old toad (I’ve held BAT (couple of others) since 2017 - only because I hate Google and monopolies in digital - but that’s another story.

You are wrong about HSBC / STAN/ Asia in general .. basically you are clueless about everything.

Let’s see where your beloved Goldman Sachs is in 12 months in comparison - and what they pay in long term divs and where the above 2 sit in contrast.

At this moment you seem to be the "also Runs" bluntest instrument in the Tool-Shed .. ^_*

[porsche1945] 25/4/2021 15:36

2triple

Good move, Iv loaded up on Coinbase too and microstrategy. Good to be invested in usd also as sterling will be down to 1.22 by end of the year after Scots vote next month kicks off the next stage of U.K. self harming. Coinbase is printing money, has zero debt and crypto is destroying all other stores of value, target price is $700 by the end of the year.

Figuring also productivity so dire in U.K. gov will happily trash the currency to try and stay competitive so should earn on exchange as well. The U.K. and europe have been a black hole for investing for 15 years, U.K. funds like Fundsmith have shot the lights out only becos pretty much all the holdings are US. Poor old Woody Woodfords back brexit britain didn’t work out too well.

Most european banks have clawed their way back, and in R O W they are above feb 2020 levels, for some reason U.K. banks like Hsbc still blown out and going nowhere with pitiful dividends and no growth, pointless dividend investing, buy growth. I’m assuming foreign investors still don’t want U.K. shares (index still at levels of 20 years ago😐) as better companies and markets in US and developed asia and U.K. seen as being perma fxxked once fog of covid brexit clears and the dire straits of the country become all too evident, was looking at a graph earlier, historically uk indexes have done a lot better under Labour governments than tories, same in USA, better under democrats than republicans, US markets lost a combined 37 per cent under the Bush duo (endless pointless m.east wars) who’d have thunk it.

[suetballs] 23/4/2021 13:24

Yep currently in the doldrums.
Suet

[triple witcher] 23/4/2021 13:12

There is a possible chart pattern developing on the HSBC daily price action, see what you think, possible descending triangle?



Here is the nuance




Conclusion

Most descending triangles are bearish by nature, we may get a final run up to the 432 area and meet the descending trendline resistance, but if we break below the support of 414/415 then the target price would be the height of the triangle which is 41p, deduct this from the 415 support then you have a price target of 374, which has been a support level from December to February.

To break support we would need to see a gap down with expansion of volume and a catalyst for this could be the Q1 earnings release on 27th April.

However, there is also a scenario, that with the results, we could break above the descending trendline which would be a bullish sign.

We will know by next tuesday!

[triple witcher] 22/4/2021 10:55

Here's the article https://www.tipranks.com/news/article/coinbase-a-pure-play-cryptocurrency-stockFrom ADVFN coinbase news On topic for HSBC Looking to add on this weakness as we seem to be range bound at the moment

[triple witcher] 22/4/2021 10:53

Apologies for the off topic but must admit crypto going forward is now at an inflection point imho. Myself have bought Coinbase as some of the analysts are predicting this could be the Amazon of the crypto world. There’s some downside risk as since the launch in the US last week the price is down but maybe a long term hold but please dyor

Decent article as posted under the Coin ticker on ADVFN

[ball deap] 16/4/2021 00:07

Hay spud, nice return you made yourself there and more to come for you. Check out the Alts I've listed, transfer in your wallet, I did LTC to TRX , XVG and it's on a bull run. XEM next, huge returns and it's only the start of the bull run, best case a 1000 bagger on the right coin.

[spud] 15/4/2021 21:06

Up 1367% on BTC and 241% LTC. Upped my cash investment into Crypto by 400% this year. I have a pt of £1k per coin LTC by 2025 and £5k by 2030. spud

[ball deap] 15/4/2021 20:53

Stay long HSBA, STAN, LLOY, STB, TBCG

[ball deap] 15/4/2021 20:50

Read the article, 7% of traders own crypto, 20% are looking to get involved, 73% know nothing about it. We are at the base of a bull run in crypto and Alts. BTC looking at 500k, I've set a 5yr long on Alts TRX, XVG, XEM, AYA XMR and a few more. Small play a few grand so not losing hair , my 5 year plan is a minimum 100 bagger.

[supermarky] 15/4/2021 17:51

420 - 440 and so on.time to go long again

[spud] 15/4/2021 08:11

HSBC to Move Four Top Executives to Hong Kong From London -Financial TimesSource: Dow Jones News--HSBC Holdings PLC plans to relocate some its top executives to Hong Kong from London as part of its shift to Asia, the Financial Times reports, citing an internal memo.--Greg Guyett, co-head of global banking and markets; Nuno Matos, chief executive of wealth and personal banking; Barry O'Byrne, chief executive of global commercial banking, and Nicolas Moreau, head of asset management, will move to Hong Kong in the second half of the year, according to the FT.--The memo said HSBC will relocate some direct reporting roles along with the executives but doesn't plan a mass movement of jobs to Hong Kong from London, the FT reports.spud

[luke141] 14/4/2021 04:59

Swing Traders looking good - long term holders - April is turning out be very neutral. Unusual for April.Probably Vaccine issues. HSBA April 27 Financial report is next up. Good / reasonable or bad report anyone ? I’m positive for first 3 months results 2021.

[constable ken] 04/4/2021 23:32

One thinks Covid is "fake" because "BLM say so" and tells people to be careful not to disagree with BLM.

The other thinks mush-for-brains is "top notch".

[ball deap] 04/4/2021 22:54

Okay Porsche1945, so to make this clear again because of all the private messages I have had today asking my position, I am long MTRO, LLOY, HSBA, STB, STAN, TBCG . If anyone has any question please feel free to message me publicly I watch most of the boards. Thank you in advance.