Hsbc Share Discussion Threads

[rayrac] 23/2/2015 09:36

And more huge, fines to come!

[tanelorn] 23/2/2015 09:35

Keith95>

I agree with both your last two posts, spot on.

Compliance costs will be increasing for all banks, HSBC have been employing far more back-room chaps for a couple of years now, whilst other banks have yet to match the pace required.

[keith95] 23/2/2015 09:32

... annoying in the sense that I sat on my hands at 8.05 flipping a coin whether to bail some .... wrong call ;)

[keith95] 23/2/2015 09:30

.. and adjusted revenues up ... (just).

HSBC seems to have become the new basket case Barclays in terms of press .. but suspect this will die down as press moves on to other heads to scalp and HSBC will quietly increase its value aka Barc.

Meanwhile ... 5.5% dividend is good.

[neilyb675] 23/2/2015 09:28

very true Keith, market wants price action - to generate trades, so it falls on this occasion

[keith95] 23/2/2015 09:24

... it is one thing to love about the markets ... look down the results ... find the poorest number .. and blame the fall on the number .... ignoring the rest.

Stable revenues, Impairments down, operating expenses up .. latter is not great.

Look to pick up some more in a couple of days when the hysteria dies down.

[robertfaulkner] 23/2/2015 09:16

20 cents is up on last years final(I think)

If $ is high we get more

[neilyb675] 23/2/2015 08:59

well they maintained the Q4 $0.20, happy with that, and happy if share price stays under 6 quid for scrip alternative..............more shares at lower sp

[speedsgh] 23/2/2015 08:52

From results -

"We are also restating our commitment to grow the dividend. To be clear, the progression of dividends should be consistent with the growth of the overall profitability of the Group and is predicated on our ability to meet regulatory capital requirements in a timely manner."

So that is their COMMITMENT to a progressive dividend policy confirmed subject to the business performing satisfactorily. Left themselves a bit of wiggle room there. Suppose it partly depends on how much faith one has in them performing + how much one trusts their 'commitment' to the div policy.

[hvs] 23/2/2015 08:49

Is it CORRUPT to the CORE

with BONUSES and PENSION TOP UPs the priority ?

It looks very very very MURKY.

The U.S. will soon be INVESTIGATING.

[neilyb675] 23/2/2015 08:24

down it is....however


The Directors declared after the end of the year a fourth interim dividend in respect of the financial year ended 31 December 2014 of US$0.20 per ordinary share, a distribution of approximately US$3,844m. The fourth interim dividend will be payable on 30 April 2015 to holders of record on 6 March 2015 on the Principal Register in the UK, the Hong Kong or the Bermuda Overseas Branch registers. No liability is recorded in the financial statements in respect of the fourth interim dividend for 2014.

The dividend will be payable in cash, in US dollars, sterling or Hong Kong dollars, or a combination of these currencies, at the forward exchange rates quoted by HSBC Bank plc in London at or about 11am on 20 April 2015, and with a scrip dividend alternative. Particulars of these arrangements will be sent to shareholders on or about 20 March 2015 and elections must be received by 16 April 2015. As this dividend was declared after the balance sheet date, no liability has been recorded on the Financial Statements at 31 December 2014.

[moneysage] 23/2/2015 07:53

It will either go up or down ?

[lollipop3] 22/2/2015 14:59

What do PI'S think will happen to the share price Monday?

[keith95] 20/2/2015 20:12

... decent set of results and on the back of Greek deal might give a premium on monday ...

[anley] 19/2/2015 10:34

Well said...........

[speedsgh] 18/2/2015 07:05

As if HSBC didn't already have enough scandal on its plate!

[philo124] 15/2/2015 21:59

Fair enough.

[jeffian] 15/2/2015 21:56

No, Philo, southern Europeans evading tax is exactly not what the quote is about. It's about paying what the Government legislates for, no more, no less. I was in Cortina d'Ampezzo when this happened -



"Tax officials traced the owners of 133 Lamborghinis, Ferraris, SUVs and other top-end cars that they found parked in the snow-lined streets of Cortina d'Ampezzo, a winter playground for the rich and famous in the Dolomites.
They found that 42 of the owners – nearly a third – had declared incomes of less than 22,000 euros (£18,000) a year. A further 16 claimed to be earning less than 50,000 euros a year."

I have used BES, PET's, EIS, VCT's, family Trusts and Deeds of Variation. All entirely legal and put there by the Government for a purpose. Oh, and I have an offshore account. If they don't like it, they should change the rules.

[hvs] 15/2/2015 19:33

Oh Dear

Its all arranged now and which school did the GOOD OLD JUDGE go to ?

[jeffian] 15/2/2015 19:30

Everything you need to know about tax evasion/avoidance was said by Judge Learned Hand -
"Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as
possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the
treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes.
Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister
in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone
does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any
public duty to pay more than the law demands."

There are indeed people out there who can't help themselves and historically Tories have been as willing as anyone else to help them. Unfortunately, there are many more people out there who could help themselves but can't be @rsed while the state is prepared to support them.

[hvs] 15/2/2015 19:26

Avidance ? Evasion its all acceptable when the TOFFs do it.

I is a celebrity.

Give me my BONUS.

Opps I forgot the PENSION TOP UP cause I will lice much longer than u plebs.