Hsbc Share Discussion Threads

[supermarky] 21/1/2015 10:56

Yeah over 600 ahead of ecb news tomorrow

[tanelorn] 20/1/2015 20:16

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[neilyb675] 19/1/2015 16:35

good posts tanelorn, backed with evidence

[tanelorn] 19/1/2015 14:59

In the above post i stated that HSBC had already allowed for 'mis-fortune' and that they didn't need to pay twice,,,,,

I've found a website that, whilst 5 mths old, agrees with me...! Mon Dieu!

see...........



Actually this post whilst old is extremely 'to the point' in answering the above 'Fool's' comments.

Fools = Proverbs 26:5

[tanelorn] 19/1/2015 13:19

Kiwi's article above can be found...on Motley Fool


Which in my opinion is 'old news' and already considered. You'll notice the previous
accounts allowed for misery, you don't need to pay twice.!!

See the following links which concur with my views!
A)

B) OH look also on Motley Fool,!!!! didn't they just post the opposite!!!, hmmm i smell a rat!!!

I notice 'Rupert Hargreaves' in 'The Motley Fool' has HSBC as his sell tip!, only trouble is that the price has gone-up slightly.... i'm sure it's all coincidence.

Regardless of opinions, someone will be correct and someone wrong, i'm in this share for a few years, and have no intention of selling regardless of short term (12 months ) news. - Look at the long term graph, i'm happier here, than some 'aim' 'growth' stock that pays diddly squat! and then goes bust.!!

[kiwi2007] 19/1/2015 10:23

I like this !!!

How about this?


HSBA) (NYSE: HSBC.US). Indeed, even though year is only a few weeks old, HSBC's shares are trading within a few pence of a two-year low.

And there could be further declines to come as HSBC tries to deal with regulators, fight off an impending credit crisis within Asia and maintain its capital position.

Rising costs

Regulators are the biggest threat facing HSBC during 2015. The rising cost to banks like HSBC of dealing with regulators demands has been well documented, and these costs are holding HSBC back.

Costs are now increasing within HSBC's compliance and legal division at a rate of around 25% per annum. As a result, the bank's cost income ratio has been pushed in to the high 50s, away from the previously targeted mid-50s target, undoing work to keep costs low over the past five years.

There's also the cost of ring-fencing to consider. UK's new ring-fencing regime is designed to protect taxpayers from future financial crises. This means large banks such as HSBC must separate high-street branch operations from investment banking activities by 2019. HSBC's management has stated that ring-fencing will cost the bank £1bn to £2bn.

On top of all this, analysts at Morgan Stanley now believe that HSBC is facing up to $7.7bn in additional fines for wrong-doing between now and 2016.
At a time when HSBC is trying to increase its capital cushion, fund a hefty dividend payout and grow profits, these rising costs and additional fines will tie the bank down.

Falling profits

To get an idea of how much HSBC is likely to be affected by rising regulatory costs, you only need to look across the pond to the US. For example, over the past week three of the world's largest banking giants, Citigroup, J.P. Morgan & Co. and Bank of America have all reported fourth-quarter results, and all missed analysts' expectations.

In particular, Citigroup reported a 86% decline in fourth quarter profit. Bank of America reported an 11% decline and J.P. Morgan's fourth quarter income declined 7%. All three blamed the declines on rising costs and fines.
These are concerning figures. Even though HSBC is the second largest bank in the world, it is not immune from rising costs and increased competition. What's more, unlike many of its peers, HSBC pays out around half of its profits in dividends. Peer Santander used to follow a similar approach but the Spanish bank has recently been forced to slash the payout to preserve capital.

The bottom line

All in all, things don't look good for HSBC. Costs are rising across the banking sector putting margins under pressure and the bank is likely to see its profitability decline over the next few quarters.
Falling profits could put the bank's dividend under pressure and this would push the share price down further.

[neilyb675] 16/1/2015 20:10

tanelorn
16 Jan'15 - 15:42 - 6430 of 6432 1 0


No!

MS and others report there's a chance the dividend may not be raised, whilst others predict a 4% increase, leading to a further rise in 2016.

I have not read of any cut other than to weaker players.!! ( Hsbc being ruled out as having 320 billion in US treasury bonds) that will gain upon rising interest rates.

IMO and that of other analysts' there's not much chance of HSBC reducing the divi, the exact opposite is most likely.!!

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I like this !!!

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[spirito] 16/1/2015 16:23

Thanks tanelorn - made me feel better about the weekend! Cheers

[tanelorn] 16/1/2015 15:42

No!

MS and others report there's a chance the dividend may not be raised, whilst others predict a 4% increase, leading to a further rise in 2016.

I have not read of any cut other than to weaker players.!! ( Hsbc being ruled out as having 320 billion in US treasury bonds) that will gain upon rising interest rates.

IMO and that of other analysts' there's not much chance of HSBC reducing the divi, the exact opposite is most likely.!!

[kiwi2007] 15/1/2015 18:00

Morgan Stanley

[kiwi2007] 15/1/2015 10:49

Divi cut suspected by analysts along with STAN.

[supermarky] 15/1/2015 10:43

Any comments on share price guys?

[supermarky] 15/1/2015 09:23

Bought at 591 this support area had better hold or I'm off. Concerned it's not too happy above 600 at the moment.

[nigthepig] 14/1/2015 20:14

Montyhedge - what language are you writing in? Can't have much faith in your statements if they appear that poorly written.

[revell40] 14/1/2015 17:09

The end is nigh

[montyhedge] 14/1/2015 14:59

Big careful the crash coming, oil debt default is going to bigger than the dot com crash for the market. FTSE and Dow will be down bigtime.

[supermarky] 14/1/2015 11:09

Can't keep its head above 600 worrying. Big us banks reporting this week

[spirito] 09/1/2015 09:35

SP will not give much growth but nice to take the 5%

[anley] 07/1/2015 16:53

A share to go no where in 2015 with a yield of 5%.............

[tanelorn] 02/1/2015 20:23

Woodford, sold his hsba shares. BIG mistake.

'Limited people' follow others.

We shall see!.

[tanelorn] 02/1/2015 20:13

Agreed, old!

[lord gnome] 02/1/2015 13:22

Old news I'm afraid. Woodford got shot pretty quickly siting fine inflation fears. Fines are the new bank tax.