Horizonte Minerals Share Discussion Threads

[backinblack80] 03/4/2021 14:50

fireplace22, you're wasting your time with stansmith. He's incapable of having a grown-up discussion...His indoctrination by the fearmongering MSM has obviously been completed. He's now probably gleefully awaiting the introduction of domestic vaccine passports....

[stansmith3] 03/4/2021 13:27

brazil on pace to be worlds most affected country by covidin other news, brazil has the most anti lockdown leadership in the worldcause and effect? too obvious for a nutjob lockdown denier? must be a conspiracy of some kind? 5g chips inside the vaccine?https://www.itv.com/news/2021-03-31/brazil-on-track-to-suffer-most-deaths-from-covid-in-the-world-as-pandemic-rages

[fireplace22] 03/4/2021 12:38

Lockdowns were never meant to be a be all and end all, they can never get rid of the disease. They were initially introduced into the UK to moderate the number of cases so the hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed, in practise they never were and wouldn't have been even without lockdown (Remember the 3 weeks to flatten the curve comment). After that it became a political tool and nothing else just as vaccination passports will become. There are two ways of getting rid of Coronavirus; vaccine - which came too late and herd immunity which we have probably got now.
No-one has ever suggested that lockdown could eliminate this disease merely slow it down until something better came along, it never did, and it took more than half the adult population to become infected and finally the aid of the vaccine to see it off. That took 13 months and sacrificed peoples jobs, businesses with the worst yet to come, Lockdown achieved nought.

No more CV from me.

[stansmith3] 03/4/2021 11:56

cases drop all over the world with strict lockdowns...i wonder if that is because it reduces human contact and gives the virus no chance to spread?maybe the virus just stops spreading when it hears about govt lockdowns? i guess the nutjob deniers could run with that, they are after all the new flat earth society

[fireplace22] 03/4/2021 09:42

The fact that we need a vaccine is surely evidence that after 12 months of lockdowns and restrictions the disease was continuing and the lockdown had failed? This has proven to be a very infectious disease, the level of social contact within the lockdown has not been enough to prevent it's spread. The virus has run it's natural course now we are very close to herd immunity with that final push from the vaccine. The fact that it is so infectious and 'only' 130K deaths from a population of 65M have occurred surely implies that it is not a lethal disease as far as nations are concerned, for those affected it's obviously a tragedy.

[stansmith3] 03/4/2021 06:33

brazil healthcare system facing collapse https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24933283-500-brazil-faces-health-system-collapse-as-covid-19-cases-skyrocket/can nobody think of a way to reduce human contact? nutjob covid deniers must have a plan surelyif lockdowns dont help why do we need a vaccine?

[fireplace22] 03/4/2021 06:24

Death rates in Brazil are 1.5K per million population in the UK it's 1.9K per million of population. As I've said it's infection curve is about 2 months behind that of the UK. Screaming covid denier doesn't work look at the facts logically. I'm no denier this is a very contagious disease and has killed many people in a terrible way but it has infected about 60% of the adult UK population and as children are largely unaffected that means we are close to herd immunity. Lockdown failed, the disease ran almost it's full natural course in the UK. May have been ended slightly prematurely with the advent of the vaccine.

[stansmith3] 03/4/2021 06:00

brazil, countdown to catastrophe https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/thousands-dead-country-turmoil-brazils-countdown-covid-catastrophe/if only there was some way to stop the spread, some way to enforce less human contact...

[backinblack80] 02/4/2021 23:00

You're playing the nut job lockdown deniers card...still..yawn....

[stansmith3] 02/4/2021 21:46

brazil showing the need for strict lockdowns, even though people making an effort on a personal basis, its not nearly enough and cases are rising in spite of thisnext few weeks will highlight this, will our nutjob deniers put their hands up and admit they were wrong? or will they still play the whatabout you cant prove card?

[backinblack80] 02/4/2021 21:29

Try focused protection....sigh

[stansmith3] 02/4/2021 21:13

yes brazil has more cases than everif only there was some way we could stop people interacting to stop the spreadsigh

[backinblack80] 02/4/2021 21:01

lol...bedwetter. You can stay in lockdown indefinitely, it's your choice. It's not my choice. You filtered me before..remember?

[stansmith3] 02/4/2021 19:52

i see the covid lockdown deniers out in full force...thank goodness for filter..anyway lets see what happens....

[fireplace22] 02/4/2021 19:43

Yes the death rate must be taken in context with the rate of infection, it is a very contagious disease. With the ongoing lockdown and about 60% of the adult population now vaccinated we are still getting close to 180,000 cases per month as tested, take into account those infected and not tested it's probably still infecting up to 0.4M per month. So much for lockdown. Notice the Govt never gives estimates of people infected, if they did people would not be so afraid as it seems most of us have had it. It does issue the results of a survey into those carrying antibodies but as these(antibodies)disappear after a few months its only a snapshot in time.

[backinblack80] 02/4/2021 18:52

Covid is not considered to be a high consequence infectious disease and has low overall mortality rates.
What does have high consequences are pointless lockdowns...

[fireplace22] 02/4/2021 17:24

It can only get up to ~80% infection/vaccination rate before dying out, just like here aided by vaccine towards the end to get us the last few percent.

[stansmith3] 02/4/2021 16:30

llbtrue and reflected by the weakness in the spthis will continue as covid runs unabated through brazilthe president is basically a covid denier anti lockdown nutjob, who has had covid - you cant make it upit could scarcely be worse, the surprise will be if the share price does not fall further

[fireplace22] 02/4/2021 15:25

Last time I looked Brazil looked pretty similar to the UK wrt Covid infections except that it was about two months behind us. It's just going to take a bit longer. Cant comment on the politics.

[laurence llewelyn binliner] 02/4/2021 15:14

Well that is most of south America on the red list for travel, and no direct flights in/out of UK to Brazil, which can only hinder progress on finalising the funding package, and perhaps DD ahead of announcing the off takers too..?

On top of which Bolsonaro has had his senior medical advisor/army/navy/air force chief resignations, my thoughts turn to can or will any of the syndicated banks back track and get cold feet over investing in Brazil now..?

The A/V projects do stand up on their own strengths but has the appetite for investment under the circumstances surrounding them today in Brazil materially changed..? on face value it does look higher risk than it was..?

[stansmith3] 01/4/2021 15:56

craigieand you are more than entitled to itthis is aim and we will only know after the fact if this was a gem or the usual story...

[soundbuy] 01/4/2021 15:39

Oh yes......

[excellance] 01/4/2021 15:28

surely they can give themselves options...??

[soundbuy] 01/4/2021 15:11

Yep.....reckon the BoD have been unable to buy for best part of 18 months

[backinblack80] 01/4/2021 14:02

mesb48, they have unpublished price-sensitive information, so can't buy...