Evraz Share Discussion Threads

[zangdook] 28/11/2023 00:18

It's just HL having a stupid computer system. Nothing has happened.

[garycook] 28/11/2023 00:15

Showing on my HL SIPP,and Fund and Share account. But N/A
Evraz plc
Ord USD0.05
n/a

Showing 82.68p on the ADVFN Moniter, also you can contact by Phone HL for a live Price I believe.

[angus mcoatup] 27/11/2023 20:25

Anyone else found EVR suddenly reappeared back in their portfolio, price 82.52p? I have EVR in a HL ISA. Was just showing blank before.

[andrey aaa] 14/11/2023 12:54

Offer for shares made by a random on a bulletin board

and where your majesty should receive a proper offer and from whom?

[zangdook] 14/11/2023 02:42

It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it.

[zangdook] 13/11/2023 14:39

It also depends what the board of Evraz decide to do, I suppose, but I'm prepared to take the risk. If Western governments really go for broke with their "rules-based" anarchy and never give back the $300b then I'll have to write off my EVR holding. It can be my small part of taking responsibility for my government's behaviour.

I can understand others taking up your offer; if I'd had a larger stake here I might have too.

[andrey aaa] 13/11/2023 14:26

the problem with wait are $300 bln of "Putin's" money held in the west. As long as they are there, which seems to be forever, like 2040, the C accounts will be frozen. They have taken his money, he took foreigners money/assets. That's his logic, not mine.

[zangdook] 13/11/2023 14:01

"If the holding company does not apply for compensation, after the unfreezing of corporate rights, the shares in the capital of the Russian structure will be returned to it. Currently, the period for freezing IHC rights is until the end of 2024, but the restrictions may be extended."

I can wait.

[andrey aaa] 13/11/2023 13:55

People who write about scamming are you ok? what is wrong with you? Where is the scam in buying and selling stock? That's unjust accusations. Please show any proof of scam!!! before writing about it.

[andrey aaa] 13/11/2023 13:47

Today's Kommersant article about forced stripping of the assets of foreign companies based on the recent gov ruling hxxps://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6336146?from=main basically the main point is that the compensation for the ESOs will be frozen forever on the C accounts or the foreign company may chose to never apply for the money. So in both cases no money as I see it. In Evraz case that means that to cover the 3 bln+ debt they will have to use 1 bln worth of North America assets. May be some debt is in Russia, so that covers some, but still there can be a Petropavlovsk scheme here.

the Rus gov ruling (in Russian) hxxp://publication.pravo.gov.ru/document/0001202311100024

[davius] 13/11/2023 12:00

FFS some people are just begging to be scammed.

[magicalmidas] 12/11/2023 17:06

Hi,
I have paper shares about 18000...Please let me know if you are interested in buying, Im located Northern Ireland..Regards

[andrey aaa] 24/10/2023 11:48

Price lowered to $0,8 from $1 due to time for forced converstion running out. Next stop $0,5.

[sj74] 23/9/2023 11:39

I suppose they could on authorisation from OFSI, however NA is currently in the process of being sold so it's not in their plans.

[maxplus2] 23/9/2023 08:00

I meant demerging non Russian assets and list as a separate company

[sj74] 22/9/2023 21:32

Because it is sanctioned.

[maxplus2] 22/9/2023 18:29

Why can't EVR list in countries such as Kazakhstan to start trading?

[dx12208] 20/9/2023 22:47

Is anyone selling Evraz?
[e-mail]

[dancing piranha] 18/9/2023 14:55

Tony, hope you took the recent opportunity to unload your large holding in THG too?!!

[coscos] 14/9/2023 17:21

The truth is that nobody knows when or how the war will end, when and how Putin will end, or when and how Evraz will relist or not.

I don't blame Andrey for trying to mop up lots of shares, after all he's completely protected as a Russian citizen and can only stand to benefit.

Everyone else needs to assess their needs and expectations. Ultimately, not even Mystic Meg can predict this one.

[andrey aaa] 12/9/2023 16:44

frankly the amounts don't matter since foreigners will be getting the compensation (if any at all) into a forever blocked C account in rubles. So if even you get not 40 penny, but 50 or whatever you are still locked in Russia until Putin steps down which is like 2040s.

[xasy] 12/9/2023 15:19

Not sure what all that means, but if there is a 50% discount on unlisted or untraded shares presumably that's a discount on the asset value, and not on a price at which shares were traded months ago?

[andrey aaa] 12/9/2023 12:59

People ask why I need the shares if the Evraz plc is going to "zero". Fair question. I am a Russian resident with citizenship so I hope to get the local shares.

[andrey aaa] 12/9/2023 12:01

zangdook1 Sep '23 - 13:41 - 3478 of 3485 wrote:

This bloke has a fairly positive view of the law.



the key components the video missed: there is right now is a mandatory 50% discount on asset sales of foreign companies (see the Magnit case and Magnit is a Russian entity) and also the ESO will receive all the Evraz PLC "unrussian" undistributed shares. So foreign Evraz shareholders can expect like 40 pences after the war ends and the sanctions are lifted may be in 2040 or so. Dividends (if there ever be any! which I doubt) would also be available only to the eso Russian shareholders, the plc's eso dividends will be frozen on the separate C ruble account as all the other foreign dividends until 2040. The money from the C accounts can be used only to pay taxes in Russia.