Evraz Share Discussion Threads

[andrey aaa] 12/9/2023 11:12

Hi AAA, how would that work for me? My shares are with my bank, I never moved them to a cert as they are held in an ISA Shares account.

I think I won't be able to do a deal if the shares are not held by you personally with the paper certificate

[andrey aaa] 12/9/2023 11:06

Hi everybody, I am still buying at $1, I have now swift payments, so no cash.

I don't expect people to believe strangers on the internet, but buyers have seen me in person and received money, so if you want to sell - welcome to direct messages.

[havinthelasttoast] 04/9/2023 00:23

Typical, ignore all the evidence while making accusations.

I’m sure a great investor. Lovya loads ya daft mug. See ya

[havinthelasttoast] 03/9/2023 19:48

There you go muppets.

J30. Cash pic he sent me before coming to meet me. Payment from my bank to HMRC for stamp duty. Believe what you want but I’ve my cash at hip and shares sold. He has to pay me in dollars and flew to Istanbul to Portugal. I got the exchange rate at the time. Lovya loads you daft sceptical mugs lol

[havinthelasttoast] 03/9/2023 19:40

Davius

You’re the mug. Anyone wants to reach out to me privately if they have any doubts I’ll show them whatever proof they need.

I have the cash in hand and contract signed and transferred. I had to pay HMRC the stamp duty as him sending money to HMRC was not so easy. Not everyone is out to scam and evraz will not transfer the shares to the person without signed contact and j30 with stamp duty paid.

Fool.

[zangdook] 01/9/2023 13:41

This bloke has a fairly positive view of the law.

[adyzaky] 30/8/2023 11:34

Hi AAA, how would that work for me? My shares are with my bank, I never moved them to a cert as they are held in an ISA Shares account.

[havinthelasttoast] 21/8/2023 17:30

Andrey AAA is genuine.

I have sold my shares to him.

I had a modest holding by my standards of 27,500 shares which i bought less than suspended price. I got all my money back. He flew to meet me in person as I live in Portugal.

I was as nervous as anyone doing the deal. he is not interested in micro holdings due to travel costs to conclude the sale, he will very likely make a killing on this transaction but equally we might get 0.

Good luck to anyone doing a deal but I can vouch it’s genuine. I got caught trading evraz shares trying to be greedy. I made the 20k I invested on another Russian stock in a day and stuck all my profit into evraz. I was happy to conclude the deal and get out. Here is proof below that I owned the shares, there is a lot of Walter Mitty here . I’ve marked out my personal details.



Cheers andrey

[andrey aaa] 19/8/2023 16:27

all the major shareholders of Evraz plc are under sanctions, they don't control anything in the Evraz plc formally speaking

[andrey aaa] 19/8/2023 16:23

In Russia this law is called "the Evraz" law and Evraz will be 100% in the list of the companies since the Russian major shareholders will get shares of the the new "Evraz Russia" according to the shares they had in Evraz plc and there will be no choice even for them. It will be mandatory for all Rus nationals to exchange. You can read the law if you want:

hxxp://publication.pravo.gov.ru/document/0001202308040071?index=1

[zangdook] 19/8/2023 14:20

Does this actually apply to Evraz? The company is still controlled by its shareholders, so afaics control hasn't been 'lost due to unfriendly actions...'.

"The government was also instructed to ensure the launch of a mechanism that will allow Russian persons to regain control over companies managed by foreign legal entities, if it was actually lost due to "unfriendly actions against the Russian Federation, Russian citizens and organizations.""

[alhambra1] 19/8/2023 12:46

So?

😗

[jasperthemonkeygod] 19/8/2023 12:33

Andrey AAA
Member since: 07 Aug 2023

[andrey aaa] 19/8/2023 08:54

Hi guys, the time is running low (Putin has told the gov to speed up the process yesterday hxxps://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6162527 this newspaper is like FTimes) , if you want to sell it at $1 per share please let me know in private messages. It's like 2-3 weeks before the company forcefully goes completely to Russia from UK.

[the millipede] 14/8/2023 10:02

There won’t be compensation. But Putin isn’t exactly winning this. Best bet for shareholders here is the Russian federation collapses and various regions break off to form independent states. Not the likeliest scenario, but not impossible.

[scubadiverr] 07/8/2023 22:09

Are you being serious? Putin is going to grab your Russian assets and leave you with the debt

[gfrae] 07/8/2023 21:57

Presumsbly compensation woyld be paid to unfrienfly nationsls.

[andrey aaa] 07/8/2023 16:24

also this will be mandatory - as soon as the gov includes Evraz in the list - they have to do it

[andrey aaa] 07/8/2023 16:19

well they will confiscate them from UK's Evraz PLC, which is only 50% oligarch owned and they get 100% of the huge Russian business in return and no sanctions

[zangdook] 07/8/2023 13:12

Evraz has substantial US interests - how would that work? If Russia cancels foreign shareholdings, might the US confiscate the company's US assets in return?

[andrey aaa] 07/8/2023 13:07

hxxps://www.forbes.ru/biznes/494078-putin-uprostil-pereregistraciu-ekonomiceski-znacimyh-kompanij-v-rossii

this is Russian Forbes article on this translated

DEADLINE IS 31 DECEMBER 2023 OR SOONER

Putin has simplified the re-registration of economically significant companies in Russia
Katya Zagvozdkina
Forbes Editorial Board

Putin signed a law that simplifies the re-registration of economically significant domestic companies in Russia from other countries. The document also allows the court to exclude foreign participants from "unfriendly" countries from the ownership of holding companies
President Vladimir Putin has signed a law that simplifies the re-registration of economically significant domestic companies in Russia from other countries. The document is posted on the website of the official publication of legal acts.

Companies that meet at least one of the following criteria are recognized as economically significant: they employ more than 4,000 people, their total assets are worth more than 150 billion rubles, revenue exceeds 75 billion rubles a year, and taxes paid last year — 10 billion rubles.

The document allows the court to exclude foreign participants from "unfriendly" countries from the ownership structure of holding companies. The law is aimed at protecting the rights and legitimate interests of Russians and Russian legal entities, "ensuring the defense of the country and the security of the state in conditions of unfriendly and contrary to international law actions," the document says.

In June, Putin instructed the government by the end of the year to simplify the procedure for redomiciling a business to Russian jurisdiction in cases when its re-registration is "blocked" abroad. "I ask the government, in contact with the business community, to speed up the return of assets in key industries to Russian jurisdiction, including simplifying the procedure for the transfer of business to Russia and registration in special administrative regions (SAR) in cases where such a move is, figuratively speaking, blocked by a foreign party or is not provided for in their legislation at all," — Putin said at the plenary session of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum.

Material on the topic
Putin declared the need to move to a "sovereign economy" in Russia

In addition, Putin instructed until December to launch a mechanism to protect the rights of Russians and Russian legal entities that own domestic companies through foreign structures.

First Deputy Minister Ilya Torosov said in mid-May at a session of the St. Petersburg International Legal Forum that the Ministry of Economic Development will expand options for helping businesses that are structured through "unfriendly" countries and have been "held hostage" due to sanctions. "Our task is to create the maximum palette of solutions for business, because there is never the right solution for everyone," said Torosov. Among the proposed measures are simplification of "moving" to Russia and assistance in obtaining dividends.

Special Administrative Regions (SAR) were created to return capital to Russian jurisdiction and to protect them from sanctions. Residents are provided with benefits, such as tax-free sale of shares and shares. In 2022, the number of residents of the SAR in Kaliningrad and Vladivostok has tripled compared to 2021.

[zangdook] 07/8/2023 12:19

not yet, but thanks for the offer.