Easyjet Share Discussion Threads

[phillis] 28/5/2022 07:21

Oh dear - another horror story

[phillis] 27/5/2022 15:02

a friends daughter got stranded at gatwick last night with a friend

they stayed in a hotel overnight and managed to get early flight to Malaga this morning with BA in Club
apparently EZJ will reimburse
Lets wait and see

[ben gibbons] 27/5/2022 14:45

Jason said he liked his mustard sandwich after all :-)

[sinzu] 27/5/2022 13:35

I think you better close that short position now before you get a margin call!

[danvandan] 27/5/2022 13:28

200 flights cancelled. If they're all full as suggested by some on here, then that's another 40,000 p1ssed off easyjet customers who'll be thinking about Ryanair or BA next time. The more relevant aspect of this though is that it indicates bad management that will feed through into other actions and outcomes, like more losses. Shareprice seems unaffected though - that wave of optimism is doing its best. I suspect, reality will eventually bring the share price back to earth.

[danvandan] 26/5/2022 17:10

I've been flying too - airports are not packed. All the rows that I could see on my flight had vacant seats between passengers. Plenty of round-trip seats at £100 on easyjet flights 3 weeks out. On top of that, some of the fleet is still not flying. easyjet is not helping itself by p1ssing off 5 or 6 thousand existing easyjet customers daily by cancelling 20+ flights every day with practically no notice.

Key measure coming up in a few weeks - this Q3 ends in 5 weeks. If the business has managed to lose yet more money in this quarter (I fully expect this to happen), despite johan's claims that volume is at '2019 levels' I anticipate a big markdown on the shares.

In the meantime, misplaced optimism might push the share price up to unrealistic levels again. Anything over £6 is a big shorting opportunity imv.

[chard1980] 26/5/2022 14:19

Would disagree if they keep cancelling flights minutes before the gate opens. Currently sat in BRS and lots of flights being cancelled with no genuine reason. Shambles.

[ttny2004] 26/5/2022 08:45

Been flying lots last 3 weeks. Airports packed again. Think we will be surprised by positive impact on airlines this year. Think will be a year from now on. Very strong next 2 quarters coming for all airlines.With emirates every business / first seat sold out on route I was on

[ben gibbons] 26/5/2022 07:33

Just the allergic reaction that wasn't so good :-)

[jasonpugh] 25/5/2022 15:58

Mustard tasted quite good actually 😳

[ben gibbons] 24/5/2022 18:57

Lol hilarious :-)

[thornintheside] 24/5/2022 17:10

Well, it seems the black swans have come home to roost and put easyjet firmly into mustard sandwich territory (496p). It seemed obvious to most ppl though.

[danvandan] 24/5/2022 16:28

Yep, that mustard sandwich certainly was a 'rash' promise to make, given his alleged allergy. Still, any physiological reaction should take his mind off his losses on his EZJ shares.

Interestingly, jason is also offering to eat 'humble pie' on another board. Seems a lot of his investment strategy centres on his gut, so to speak.

[ben gibbons] 24/5/2022 16:17

Mustard sandwich looming Jason ;-)

[danvandan] 21/5/2022 16:46

This was under £5 just a few days ago - no 'black swan' event needed for that. No real telling which way it'll go over the next few days, but as has been pointed out, when the market moves on from what it thinks are 'recovery stories' and realises that EZJ isn't one of them, then the share price will be valued on fundamentals.

That may have happened already. The pandemic is mostly behind us. Now many investment houses are talking about coming recession. Only Apple is holding the US market up for the moment.

Sandbar are the 'conviction trader' shorting eZJ at the moment and they reduced their short on Thursday, contributing about a quarter of the buy trades on that day, possibly for fear of getting burnt by another wave of optimism. They're still short almost 1% of the total share issue though (about 7m shares). Their short reduction was most probably risk management more than anything.

Key aspects are two-fold. 1, in 2019, a record yr for EZJ, the business made £350m net profit. 2020, they lost a billion. 2021 they lost £800m. This year they will probably lose another £500m (already down £500m but I'm guessing a smaller loss for this quarter 3 balanced with a small profit for Q4). Maybe a profit in 2023 but it will most probably be a small one as it tries to tackle inflation and borrowing costs while also confronting a slowdown in consumer spending. So the fundamentals don't really support a bullcase based on EZJ's current market cap of £4bn.

2. The coming recession. All boats will sink on the descending tide. There is just too much going wrong right now. Inflation has been stoked by years of money printing. The Russo/Ukraine war has caused the supply shock that has now let the brakes off a runaway train of inflation. Continuously rising interest rates will hurt mortgage-holders and indebted businesses will inevitably start going broke as consumers rein-in spending. When lay-offs start, we will be on the downward roller-coaster run. Exactly when that starts is difficult to time, but the dow is down 15% from its recent peak - it may have already started. This might be the right moment to sell any EZJ spikes caused by irrational retail sentiment.

[jasonpugh] 21/5/2022 11:41

The only way this share goes sub £5 is a black swan event. I will literally eat a mustard sandwich if it does ( im allergic to mustard 😳).

[thornintheside] 21/5/2022 02:08

Correct greco. It was an unlikely reaction, but it's all true. After the second RI (Sept 2021) easyjet had twice as many shares in issue compared to 2019. When the shares hit £8, the company's market cap was higher than in 2019 (equal to £16 share price for 2019). That's not according to me - it's according to basic arithmetic and the facts.

Irrational market excitement plus short covering etc was skewing the behaviour. Check the share numbers and market cap and you will see the situation clearly.

But even if you don't bother with any of that, just take a look at the profits from 2019 (the best year for commercial aviation EVER). Easyjet made about £350m. That's the target for this company in a couple of years from now, which would give the current price a p/e of 11 for this bus company of the skies.

But this year the business is already sitting on a half billion pound loss and definitely won't turn a profit by the end of the year. If everything goes well, easyj might be two years away from mediocre profits and will still hold significant debt. BUT we are about to enter a recession, so more likely pushing that p/e and profits even further into the future. When the market eventually figures this out, the share price will drop to something which reflects actual earnings and future prospects. My guess is about £4 or lower.

[greco600] 20/5/2022 22:11

Its an interesting point, but based on what you've saying that means when there share price reached 8 in October 21 according to you that equivalent to 16 pounds a share.That seems pretty unlikely considering how things where back then "i mean effectively £16 a share,"

[thornintheside] 20/5/2022 17:21

btw, look at the Dow. A bear market has started. We are heading for recession. £4 and lower is coming imo. dyor (and try to keep up with the number of shares issued!!!!).

[thornintheside] 20/5/2022 17:18

km18, if 'wealthoracle' can't even look at recent history and see that there's now twice as many shares in EZJ and the share price HASN'T LAGGED other airlines, then I don't think it's going to be much of an 'oracle'.

[thornintheside] 20/5/2022 17:13

Share price here is almost at 2019 levels. Don't forget that EZJ has had TWO rights issues during the pandemic and issued new shares so that there are virtually twice as many now as there were in 2019. That would make today's price of 520p the same as £10.40 in 2019. EZJ has NOT LAGGED in share price recovery. The shares have nearly completely recovered. There is no 'recovery story' to be had with these shares. Look at the market cap and the price/earnings ratio. On current prices the shares are WAY OVERPRICED!!!

This business lost another half a billion pounds in H1. In January the ceo said that bookings were close to 2019 levels for summer but clearly either that is untrue, or EZJ were selling seats much cheaper and costs are way higher. Either way, the ceo is running out of runway because the next quarter IS the summer season. He can't keep saying 'close to 2019 volumes' and still keep showing huge losses. I reckon it will take EZJ several years to clear its debts and become profitable. By the end of this year, I suspect the ceo will be found out and he will be gone.

[km18] 20/5/2022 14:47

Easyjet (EZJ) posted interims yesterday. The low cost carrier posted a headline loss before tax of £545 million down from H1 2021: £701 million loss. Total revenue increased by 524% to £1,498 million (H1 2021: £240 million) predominantly due to an increase in capacity flown and ancillary products continuing to deliver incremental revenue. Group headline costs increased by 117% to £2,043 million (H1 2021: £941 million), primarily due to the increase in flown capacity.
EasyJet has continued to allocate aircraft to the markets where we demand is at its strongest. In the second half of the year leisure and domestic routes have fully recovered with capacity at 113% and 104% of FY19 levels respectively, whilst business and city traffic continues to recover with demand currently below FY19 levels. Travel is recovering, so will revenues, profits and EPS. Share price is still roughly 50% below pre-COVID levels and has lagged other names in the sector. Like with many travel names there is a recovery story here, although near term share price lacks momentum. BUY.

...from WealthOracleAM

[thornintheside] 19/5/2022 23:45

Expecting this year to end with a record breaking volume at the beginning of a new recession is probably unrealistic.