Dart Share Discussion Threads

[mustau] 06/8/2020 21:23

CT,

Thanks, it talks about Ankara not the whole of the country as implied.

[tongosti] 06/8/2020 20:09

Agreed and I understand. Cheers and good luck to you too mate

[krobbo1] 06/8/2020 19:48

Yes completely agree. The price might not be bad - i think the key point being ‘if DTG survives’. I personally am holding off because too risky to say confidently that they will survive and in what state come out of this. DTG was for me (and May well be in future) a great investment - I would just rather invest with a little less risk until we have clarity if summer 2021 will be even reminiscent of 2019. Good luck with yours though!

[tongosti] 06/8/2020 19:29

As you may be aware, i don't have a DTG long term position but I think one still needs to be aware of RR estimates at any one point during the cycle. True, this is an unparalleled time in the wider sector but my point is that - bankruptcy aside - if DTG survives it all then the current price is not as bad as most think. After all, investing when all is gloomy around you is the key to the longer term isn't it.

[krobbo1] 06/8/2020 18:27

Tong not sure why you need specific figures to show RvR when, in my opinion, backing an airline in a pandemic with no idea when they can operate in the same way as they did pre April is pretty risky without bringing figures into it.

[castleford tiger] 06/8/2020 16:26

France has numbers same as Spain.

Senn I saw the numbers and going up fast. All turkeys ICU beds are full again.

A further lockdown on travel looks likely

tiger

[our haven] 06/8/2020 16:25

Cash. Not sure with Richard Branson group only putting in another £200m.Big ask for the rest.

[cashandcard] 06/8/2020 16:19

Our haven,I wonder if Virgin Atlantic creditors will accept the deal Branson and co are lining up?Cash

[senn1] 06/8/2020 15:24

Turkey Greece on the verge of going on the list I hear hope not next few days crusial

[on business] 06/8/2020 10:31

Fest pictured on one his ... 'long walks' round the Orme

[castleford tiger] 05/8/2020 23:41

Wild
I agree we should remain parked but easy were saying load factor was not too bad.
I have no data.
I know residents or part timers being forced into using them.
However your feedback is important and I am sure the routes are far from full.
I think we stay away from Spain now until we get clearance to canaries where we have a strong winter following.
The crew that came back however are now being paid adding to the costs.
Not sure when we will get an update but I doubt us smashing fragile confidence.

[wilddcw] 05/8/2020 21:20

CT - "Ezy are picking up jet 2 and Tui customers who will still need to fly to Spain and portugal.
Ryan are the same and scooping up the must travel lot."

The feedback I'm getting is that the flights are nearly empty. Probably better to stay parked on the runway than flying at the moment.

[our haven] 05/8/2020 10:04

Up across the sector generally more than Dart therefore maybe more to come later, possibly tomorrow morning if classic pattern for Dart is followed

[our haven] 05/8/2020 08:18

I know that they are not in direct competition, but with Virgin Atlantic filing for bankruptcy I thought it may have a negative impact the sector. Did not expect price to be up as it is not like a Thomas Cook situation.

[castleford tiger] 04/8/2020 22:10

It’s a brave call against markets and I know nowt.

[tongosti] 04/8/2020 14:02

Just covered for about -0.5% fellas. Not my gambling day!Ytd DTG still at a healthy +73% though.

[sux_2bu] 04/8/2020 13:38

Price has Peaked.

[tongosti] 04/8/2020 13:01

699 pal. Still in

[castleford tiger] 04/8/2020 12:59

what did you open at Tong this morning?

tiger

[tongosti] 04/8/2020 10:36

IF we break 760, then 830 would be the next stop with a retest of 1000 following next, on the balance of probabilities.

[castleford tiger] 04/8/2020 09:57

Oh I have figures but for various reasons they are open to ridicule.
I cannot see DTG making much of a profit next year so I have 20 m in mind that’s for year end March 22
I see losses this year between 300/500 m depending on hedge losses.

5 aircraft flying as of now
88 same time last year.
The costs in opening up say Leeds for 1 flight today must make no sense but they have no choice .
Ezy are picking up jet 2 and Tui customers who will still need to fly to Spain and portugal.
Ryan are the same and scooping up the must travel lot.

[our haven] 04/8/2020 09:24

See that the share price is up 10 percent. Shows that some are happy to rebook elsewhere for the sun.