Conroy Gold & Natural Re... Share Discussion Threads

[craffert] 09/10/2015 22:10

i'm sooooooo sorry newprom.....little did I realise that in your eyes I had virtually reached Questor column status. So for the avoidance of doubt, I am really sorry to anyone who is silly enough to treat anything written by me or anyone else on ADVFN as formal financial advice. Here's a tip: Be nice to your Mum. :-) Have a nice weekend.

[newprom] 08/10/2015 08:04

Craffert.You love to pontificate about conroy, giving advice to investors but the truth is that you have only ever given TWO tips on this board and they both proceeded to lose approx 80% of their value in a month.I have one simple question so as not to tax your brain too much;Will you apologise to anybody on this board who listened to your unbelievably bad tipping and lost money as a result???

[newprom] 07/10/2015 23:00

Craffert.youre motives are so obvious to all .You are either very bitter,very deluded or in my opinion both of these.Anybody who can tip two shares only and then find both shares have lost 80% of their value in just one month must lack any intelligence and in my book should not be advising other people in their investments.That is why I am warning investors and newbies from listening to your bitter and twisted views.

[craffert] 07/10/2015 22:07

I completely understand that you need to have a fantasy to play out in your mind about my motives because the fear of my motives being sincere is just too frightening to contemplate.

[emmo1210] 07/10/2015 14:15

Craffert thought he was going to get a big payday in under a year when Conroy came knocking at the door telling him he was prospecting on the farm. Guess I would be bitter too if I was still stuck in pig poop.

Any clown can see that the resource INDUSTRY is where it is because of global sentiment. Conory is not immune and follows the trend of all the others...even the big players as we have seen in the last week. Sentiment changes like the wind. Knowing we have Conroy behind the wheel who obviously isn't going to let it fail at this stage make me so much more comfortable compared to the other players.

[newprom] 07/10/2015 12:44

true, but this share has some risk so would not advise anybody to put too much in this at the end of the day the bears could be right.But on a guarded risk to reward basis this is hugely cheap.

[4marlin] 07/10/2015 12:36

hmmmm,
reading the bulls view on this share, one would have thought they would bend over backwards so they could 'back up the truck'.
I am doing that with other pm stocks and, at the end of the day:

actions speak so much louder than words.

[newprom] 07/10/2015 12:30

I think a lot of the bulls are saturated with shares and the negative feeling regarding the company has not helped but for every share that multibags there has to be a bottom from where it climbs.Fundamentals and underlining risk to reward would dictate many multiples of the present s.p.

[4marlin] 07/10/2015 12:08

There are very very few believers left.
My question for them is:

if the bears are wrong, why are the bulls not buying now?
as much as they possibly can?
surely, in their opinion, this is one of the last chances they will get to multi-bag?

[newprom] 07/10/2015 09:17

Craffert.In your opinion.My point is that your opinion does not count for much because of your lack of understanding how the share market works.Everything has a degree of risk and is priced accordingly.The market has decreed that there is a huge amount of risk in cgnr shares and that is why backers have the opportunity for a huge gain.There is a risk with these shares but the potential gain makes them worth much more than the market price.I agree you make some valid points regarding progress but with shares like cgnr things can change rapidly.The shares are at this low ebb precisely because holders have got tired of waiting but in actual fact we are so much more advanced than when you paid many times this share price in the past.You bought in when the shares were not worth a fraction of the share price because nothing had been proven and there was a lot of investment and time needed.At this moment it is a complete reversal of that as the shares are now so lowly rated and news is expected in the not too distant future which could transform the company and also the market cap is so very low which means value.When do you think the shares offered the best value,when you bought them or now,whilst the price is low?

[craffert] 07/10/2015 08:41

its that predictable old playing the man game again isn't it. This is a CGNR board. Try to stick to the subject matter rather than "my predictions are better than your predictions." My particular focus here is down to particular knowledge here and the fact that I would like to see someone else get a real project off the ground in the license area. The Prof has not, and can not do that. That doesn't make him a bad person, but inept at delivering on his winks, hints, nods and predictions, whilst taking remuneration which is completely out of proportion to the company scale, market cap, funds, employee numbers etc.

[newprom] 07/10/2015 07:52

Talking about brain dead....Craffert is really very talented....Does anybody know anybody who managed to pick not one but TWO shares that both managed to lose 80% of their value inside a month?????? takes some doing....how did you manage it Craffert??? Have you got any more tips like that???? Seriously if you have anymore.I would be interested to know???

[newprom] 07/10/2015 07:27

Craffert never has an original thought,he is like a stuck record.If you ask him a difficult question he will not answer because his brain does not think for him.He has admitted before that he lets others pick his stocks because he is too lazy and thinking for himself is sooo muuuch efffoort......but that did not work did it...Craffert,just remind me of the only two shares you have tipped on this site.Is it not true they lost 80% of their value in a matter of a month after you gave them?He will have to use his brain to answer that...so I dont expect an answer.....because that would be sooo muuuch efffoort.......

[goldeneye5] 06/10/2015 22:45

Yes craffert I would agree that the former All Black rugby captain is unlikely to fund CGNR. I'm sure those unsuspecting new investors in CGNR will be glad you took the time to tell them that! Ground breaking stuff!

[craffert] 06/10/2015 21:54

everyone's to blame then - me, other posters who mention the factual history of this company, the Irish Independent newspaper, those lazy journalists, the price of gold, the russian prank caller, even Sean Fitzpatrick now that hs is acknowledged as an unlikely funder. Who have we left out? Who actually is accountable, and takes a remarkable remuneration package for holding that responsibility?

[goldeneye5] 05/10/2015 23:18

Anyone trying to get shot would get nothing....that is obvious..... Doesn't take a genius to see that. Nobody wants the shares and anyone trying to sell will get peanuts, I think any dummy can see that. Irish independant newspaper has not always been accurate ON CGNR articles, even I can see that.....did you swallow that oligarch stuff.....come on seriously? Sounds like a prank call don't you think. As for the nephew comment, that was just more lazy journalism. That said they are connected (albeit not as immediately as the Newspaper suggests) and that can only be a good thing in my opinion.As for Capvest, there is no chance they would get involved here. S Fitz may on a personal level, but probably unlikely.I can't remember Craffert do you own shares here or are you still just here offering your free advisory service to prospective investors out of good will. Just warning them of the pitfalls of buying any CGNR shares. Looks to me like you are really keeping an eye on this baby and for free too. Wow I know some draw attention to your motives. Sometimes there is just no need as anyone reading can see that for themselves. It's that obvious.

[craffert] 05/10/2015 22:13

you just don't get it goldeneye - the fact that there are no buyers for such small parcels tells you what would happen to anyone trying to get shot of a big parcel.

It is a well known fact in the Cavan/Monaghan area that Seamus Fitzpatrick is a nephew of Richard Conroy. It's hardly ground breaking news. Why so touchy about this anyway? Is it the fact that Fitz might be happy enough to lend his credibility but not his very substantial CapVest cheque book?

www.independent.ie/business/irish/nick-webb-russian-oligarchs-had-eyes-on-conroys-gold-30619315.html

Last paragraph. Accurate. QED.

[goldeneye5] 05/10/2015 21:51

£100 or £400 are hardly eye catching trades. I agree the share price is the pits. Hardly a ground breaking observation. And craffert you talk of a blank cheque from nephew S Fitz......I don't think I mentioned that.By the way Craffert get your facts first. You think S Fitz is a "nephew"....... Shows how much you know!You must have read that misprinted somewhere?Just illustrates your inaccuracies!

[goldeneye5] 05/10/2015 21:32

Some companies that I expect would be looking at CGNR and of course I could be completely wrong1. Lundin.......Galmoy until 2009. Took out Belmore Resources in 2011 and tucked their Irish licences away.2. Glencore ( yes I did say Glencore)3.Teck Resources4. Goldcorp5 . Barrick Gold 6. Newmont GoldJust some possibles.

[craffert] 05/10/2015 21:20

seriously Goldeneye, that has to be the most delusional post I have ever read about where CGNR are today and where the future lies. 5 days ago someone sold £100 worth of CGNR shares for 0.639p. Today the most you can get for £400 quids worth is 0.40p. There is no buy side for these shares. What do you think the share price would be if someone wanted to sell £10k worth quickly? 0.20p? 0.10p? What do you think will happen when Hybridan get the call from Dublin asking for another placement to raise (guess) £400k of fresh equity. The answer? It won't be some cute sort of financial arrangement, or a blank cheque from nephew Seamus.

[goldeneye5] 05/10/2015 20:50

Newprom said it "things could change very quickly" Whilst I understand the frustration here and share it, I believe we are at a very significant place at the moment ( and not before time I might add). I will just watch and see what the near future brings. What do I suspect could happen soon, and this is just my opinion which I agree is inflated as odvod put it.1. Funding just around the corner (yes you have heard that many times before) . What form, i don't know but I could see interest coming from America or more likely Canada which has been taking an interest in Northern Ireland already, (Dalradian, Ross Beaty, Galantas etc) and quite possibly a large mining company too. I wouldn't be surprised if the funding/finance for the construction came manly from some sort of financial arrangement elsewhere.2. The logical step then for the prof would be to step back, still involved but in more of an advisory/consultative capacity. Let's face it they are not going to mine Clontibret themselves. Could see the prof concentrating on the pure exploration side of things then.3. Ties between CGNR an KDR could become closer again to the benefit of both shareholders. That's Just a thought which I am not ruling out yet. I would also say not to rule out the possibility of a partner who may like a very large zinc deposit in the mix for good measure to tuck away and mine in the future at a more favourable time and price for zinc. Don't forget that they believe the zinc deposit is far larger than Galmoy. To be honest I had nearly forgotten about the zinc, but it could prove important...just my crazy inflated opinions

[newprom] 05/10/2015 16:50

If thats what you believe then so be it,but entirely untrue.Time will of course decide but risk to reward Im more than happy to hold.

[4marlin] 05/10/2015 16:16

Nobody is batting for you:

You have management eating greedily and doing ?????????
and Seamus has done sweet FA todate for the company. He is no fool.


A while back someone humourously (imo) posted the following which I feel remains most apt:

This company has never made a cent.
It has no mine.
It has no money.
It has no management worthy of the name.

It's been churning out the same resource statements for years now, yet it achieves nothing of any operational significance.

That's because it has no operations.
It's an office, manned by a bloke or two.
And a professor, occasionally.

That's it.

[newprom] 05/10/2015 16:08

Goldeneye.I fully agree with your statement.Far too much negativity on this board due to the waiting,but waiting should not go on forever.Things are going to come to a head sooner or later.Look at the fundamentals now ,not consider losses in the past.Risk to reward this share offers great value in my opinion.Consider what we may have in the ground and compare to a market cap of around 3 million pounds.Also consider we have Seamus Fitzpatrick batting for us,things could change very quickly.

[odvod] 05/10/2015 12:41

opinions (inflated) do not count :(