Cellcast Share Discussion Threads

[topgunns] 28/9/2008 15:13

Analyst, I think you're being reasonable with your share price target for an ideal scenario. Problem is that they have often shown promise but no end result. And now we have the OFCOM decision hanging over us. Pure gamble right now. But it's either 0p or off to the races. Two things we are waiting for. Announcing profitability. 1 mill/year would be great. And OFCOM decision as favourable as possible for us. If those two things happen, the share price goes up 10 times. I'm expecting some kind of update tomorrow or tuesday.

[the analyst] 28/9/2008 13:50

I think it would be 4p minimum if it does happen.

Just been thinking about what the maximum we could expect would be if things go to plan over the next 18 months. A fantasy situation if you like...

Cellcast Asia is said to be worth £2.6m, but could eventually be floated for £5m or more when they make an exit on that investment. It is growing well. Sumo website and some of it's technology could be sold for £1m. The UK business could start to bring in £1-2m pa if it keeps growing and becomes more efficient, continues website and 3G growth. Place that business on a (low) PE of 6x and that business could be worth £12m. Then there is the unknown of potential revenue share deals with the technology for Brazil, Nigeria etc that could be worth something and no risk on it to boot.

So, we could even be looking at a market cap of £18m in two years time if ALL goes to plan. That's only a 'dream' situation, but it would mean 24p per share!

I suspect most investors would happily settle for 8p, maybe even 4p..

[the analyst] 28/9/2008 13:39

Hope so, but doubt there is any chance before the ofcom decision

[rp3406] 28/9/2008 12:55

MBO with interims ????

[ldmachin] 26/9/2008 14:30

Davidruk,

But you are then the legal owner, even if you did register the domain for your employer... which is all very dodgy in my opinion. There is no need for any of Cellcast's website domains to be in the personal details of any member of staff at Cellcast. There's a hell of a lot of clarity on it's current operations and assets that this company needs to give... it's all smokey at present.

[davidruk] 26/9/2008 14:00

For what its worth I've just remembered that several domain names I registered on behalf of the company I work for are still in my name and address. I renew them and claim the money back - very easy done!

[ldmachin] 25/9/2008 10:47

zoo123,

hmmm, i not convinced. The method of payment has nothing to do with who you registered the domain name under. The details should be changed over to cellcast immediately... it costs nothing to do. If it is a cellcast asset it needs to be assigned to be owned by cellcast. Domain names can sell for many many thousands of pounds, it needs to be clear who this asset belongs too. It's a conflict of interest at present. How deep does this sort of thing go on at Cellcast...

You don't see bbc.co.uk or yahoo.com register in the CEOs name or any other company. This needs sorting out... looks sinister to me.

Much much more clarity needed on cellcasts 'products' and 'services'. There is no reason not to be clear unless there is something to hide... the shareholders are the owners after all, not the management.

[zoo123] 25/9/2008 00:53

Hi,


LDM, transparency could certainly be improved, as always. However, casual action is the dating service that was/is running on Sumo.tv from when it stopped being a UGC channel - it was in development for months before.

It could simply be a matter of the CEO settling on a name, or registering many names at once, with a name that was later selected by the board, and having just used his personal credit card at the time when he came up with it and found it available.

I'd assume, if what you're suggesting as a possibility was to happen, then any future administrator and the police would be interested in that - I don't believe its likely!



Kind regards,


MN

[ldmachin] 24/9/2008 19:34

BTW, Cellcast.co.uk is registered in the company's name:

Domain name:
cellcast.co.uk

Registrant:
cellcast ltd

Registrant type:
Unknown

Registrant's address:
11-13 soho street
london
W1V 5DA
GB

Registrar:
Register.com Inc [Tag = REGISTER-DOT-COM]
URL:

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 10-Sep-2004
Renewal date: 10-Sep-2010
Last updated: 16-Sep-2008

So, why the hell isn't www.casualaction.co.uk? Smells very fishy...

[zoo123] 24/9/2008 16:42

Hi,


I might be interested for a fraction!


Bones, how would one go about organising a cross-trade then???




Kind regards,



MN

[bones698] 24/9/2008 14:47

also a better way to sell this kind of share is to organise a cross trade with someone looking to buy on a bulletin board, both get a better deal and cheaper costs etc . as for results there will be at least an 800k profit to show from the sky slot sale minmum then we will see how the company has done on top of that. might take a little working out but i am sure all the relevant figures will be at the top of the rns :)
might have a little top up myself just before then :)

[8trader] 24/9/2008 12:49

I never said it was buy Stephen !

I said that the online bid and size were very good for this stock suggesting
that maybe somebody has a buy order in for 1p, not fact, just a maybe.

[lord santafe] 24/9/2008 12:35

wow 8Trader's here who generally is a very cautious speculator.

thats to me is a strong buying signal :)

[8trader] 24/9/2008 11:57

You can actually sell 150k right now with selftrade at 0.9p so that
person who thinks they cant get many out is wrong, that's a good
chunk at a good price, maybe wins have a buy order at 1p ?

[the analyst] 24/9/2008 11:50

My thoughts exactly.

Why sell when the company could, if we believe the directors, now be trading profitably?

[digger27] 24/9/2008 11:43

Thanks for the info but they are not having any of mine until we see the results.

[the analyst] 24/9/2008 11:32

I'm pretty sure there is still a (minimum) nms based on volume of the shares traded, but mms can increase their nms if they wish.

So, here we seem to have a nms of 10,000, but looking at L2, WINS set theirs at 100,000 - they will take 100,000 off you at the full 0.75p if you wish to sell.

No excuses for those that wish to sell 100k, they can do so right now at the full bid

[bones698] 24/9/2008 10:03

just so you know the market have to give you the 0.75p price shown for the nms of shares by law therefore if you want to unload sell in smaller chunks at the nms and you will get the 0.75p price quoted . hope that helps

[lord santafe] 24/9/2008 08:07

lol if I had the extra funds I would be pretending I want to sell the ones I have to try to scare out holders just to get another 0.25p cheaper.

If Sam does get rid of all his shares for @0.5p today, then CLTV may become 0.9p to buy.

[zoo123] 24/9/2008 06:32

Hi,


Does anyone believe if you were to collect ALL the sky slots (where it's not just the EPG slots that are valuable, but the actual transmission capacity as well)that they wouldn't exceed the current company value of about £500,000.

Then there's the companies share-holding in other subsidiaries, where the management of Cellcast do have board positions, namely Cellcast Asia and Tvibe.

Then there's the integrated technology of Sumo, that while not on air, is a useful technology to have for any myriad of broadcasters who might want to create such a programme.

San, please let us know how your trading goes and your experience in trying to dispose of your substantial stake (I don't have level 2).


The problem with Brazil, as with much of the world where Cellcast could make a killing and gain a leadership position, is that they are hampered by un-developed business practice (i.e. corrupt and bureaucratic). What happened was local politics and a lack of a deal to get back the money due from those premium-rate phone-calls.




Kind regards,


MN

[lord santafe] 23/9/2008 12:09

Sans Souci,

I do not know anything about Cellcasts past a year ago, etc, but maybe it is best not too, since at the moment they seem to be doing a great job.

Your sells lately have had hardly no effect on the price, since after every time someone buys some the ask will increase. This will also happen after the next buy and the bid may go up as well. I hope the bid does increase so you can offload again.

The less shareholders who will be holding after a positive announcement is made, the better it will be for the ones left in.


digger27 - 23 Sep'08 - 11:50 - 1198 of 1199
Regarding the results I am just giving the what if scenarios and now there back down to sub 1.25p to buy, I wish I had more funds to top up again.

[sans souci] 23/9/2008 11:57

thanks for advice but I am continuing to try to offload by stake

Considering it is over half of a percent of the company and I can't get a price, do I really need to add to my discust at this shower of chancers

Beware is all I say

Remember the lies last year about further loans and what about Brazil?

What happened to all the earnings in Brazil? Termination issues?

Terminating in someone elses bank account.

Sorry if I push the price down further