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[crossing_the_rubicon] 16/6/2019 14:08

Why The S-400 Is A More Formidable Threat To US Arms Industry Than You Think

The final risk is that if Turkey were to fly its F-35s near the S-400, the Link 16 system would reveal a lot of real-time information about the US stealth system. Over time, Moscow would be able to recreate the stealth profile of the F-35 and F-22, thereby making pointless Washington’s plans to spend 1.16 trillion dollars to produce 3,000 F-35s.

What must be remembered in our technological age is that once the F-35’s radar waveform has been identified, it will be possible to practice the military deception of recreating fictitious signals of the F-35 so as to mask one’s own aircraft with this shape and prevent the enemy’s IFF systems from being able to distinguish between friend or foe.

Of particular note is the active cooperation between China and Russia in air-defense systems. The S-400 in particular has already been operational in China for several years now, and it should be assumed that there would be active information sharing going on between Moscow and Beijing regarding stealth technology.

It turns out that the S-400 is a weapon system with multiple purposes that is even more lethal than previously imagined. It would therefore not be surprising that, were S-400s to be found in Cuba and Venezuela, Washington’s bellicose rhetoric against these two countries would come to an abrupt halt.

But what US military planners fear more than the S-400 embarrassing their much-vaunted F35 and F22 is the doubts they could raise about the efficacy of these stealth aircraft in the minds of allies and potential buyers. This lack of confidence would deal a mortal blow to the US arms industry, a threat far more real and devastating for them than a risk of conflict with Moscow or Beijing.

[ribblewader] 15/6/2019 17:15

Stealth History: The F-35C Is Now Ready For War.......

Upgraded weapons, extra carrying capability and wider choice of fit.

[ribblewader] 15/6/2019 16:50

MBDA at Paris Airshow

[crossing_the_rubicon] 14/6/2019 19:46

Don't disagree with that assessment at all..
Nibbled some myself at lows. :)

A tad concerning though that F35B is one of the two variants with these problems..

[ribblewader] 14/6/2019 17:55

Paris Airshow 2019.....

[cmackay] 14/6/2019 16:35

Laborious indeed, CtR!

Fwiw I think it's been well oversold down to the mid4s, the fundamentals remain strong and current panics are soon to be yesterday's news.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 14/6/2019 12:47

A very good question Cmackay.

It's been a laborious climb though.

Time will tell.

[cmackay] 14/6/2019 12:46

It looks set to reach £5 soon enough, but the question is will it maintain it?

[ribblewader] 14/6/2019 04:47

Are you sure? I thought it was my turn this week!

[crossing_the_rubicon] 13/6/2019 21:52

Defense News obtained military documents detailing a wide range of serious problems with two of the three versions of the F-35.

The Air Force’s F-35A appears to be exempt from the latest flaws, but the Marine Corps’ vertical-landing F-35B and the Navy’s carrier-compatible F-35C both suffer what the services call “category 1” deficiencies.

(In military parlance, a category 1 flaw in a plane can prevent a pilot from accomplishing their mission.)

[cmackay] 13/6/2019 20:49

I am Spartacus :)

[ribblewader] 13/6/2019 17:52

That could be quite a few of us I would think.

[cmackay] 13/6/2019 16:48

Much healthier price. Well done. My note states just shy of 2pm yesterday. The policy is that auto-reinvestment can occur anywhere between the 11th and 21st, iirc. A cynical man may say HL see what kind of demand will be put on them from the reinvestment instructions, buy said amount and then conduct sales as reinvestments in order to profit from the balance. That cynical man may get into trouble for saying such things though.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 13/6/2019 16:03

UK competition watchdog ends probe into BAE Systems deal

The proposed joint venture between UK defence company BAE Systems and German firm Rheinmetall to manufacture military vehicles has been approved by the UK Competition and Markets Authority.

[ribblewader] 13/6/2019 15:44

Interesting. Even though Lloyds transfered mine the day after I expected it, I managed to pick my reinvestment up at 461.8. Did you ever find out when HL place the bid and at what time.

I have updated header.

[cmackay] 13/6/2019 09:27

Yes indeed they are innocent, and naïve as such. I tease with my idiot comment. But you're right about outwitting one. They are consistent in that regard.

On topic, HL reinvested my dividends for me yesterday at c.480 which puts me at a decent return on the year.

[ribblewader] 13/6/2019 07:30

My experience is that children are often innocent, because they know no better. But never try to outwit an idiot, they will always find a way to F something up!

[cmackay] 12/6/2019 21:47

Yes I suppose you have to have a certain level of override capability when you're in the sky. Your comment about fuel brought me back to what was considered the height of humour at my lower school, to suggest that if a plane were in the final stages of failure and about to crash into the ground, but several feet above the ground it were to run out of fuel, it would hover there stationary and the passengers would be able to jump out safely. That was considered sophisticated humour at 6-7 years old. Children are idiots :)

[ribblewader] 12/6/2019 17:20

cmackay. Its not that difficult to override the auto systems but, in the case of the 737x problem they cut back in again!! But generally they can be overridden, then its down to the nature of what the issue is. Out of fuel does not matter (ish) only where to put the a/c down. Engine drops off gives a lot of options (for the crew, not the passengers!)

[cmackay] 12/6/2019 09:16

I think there is a lot to that point. A company can scapegoat an individual much more easily and conveniently than a computer system. After all, if company x has a disaster caused by pilot y, there will be minor disruption to other flights. If company x has a systems failure, mass cancellation will ensue. System upgrade or replacement is expensive in time and money. A new pilot, less so.

I'm completely ignorant to the technicalities of flying an aircraft, but I'm not sure how much scope any human intervention would have to correct any issues at the critical points in the event of catastrophe. I can imagine the older military craft had a level of being able to get to heart of the problem, but with commercial airliners of today, is it not too computerised to have much influence? As I say, these are baseless assumptions, I'm just riffing.

[ribblewader] 12/6/2019 06:30

cmackay. Hmm, I supose insurance would be a consideration. But I think the main consideration is to have fall back systems (I.E. Human) in case of catastophic failure at the two most critical moments of flight! Could it also be to have a person to point fingers at if the worst does happen, or am I being a bit too cynical?

[cmackay] 11/6/2019 22:00

RW, I suspected the civil pilots were probably just shepherds at this stage of tech advancement, is it insurance requirements that keeps them in the job or am I missing something?

[ribblewader] 11/6/2019 17:55

Babbler, interesting but BAE/AirBus did not get on as partners before and I cannot see it happening post Brexit.