Avanti Communications Share Discussion Threads

[verymaryhinge] 29/6/2012 07:26

DW on R4 this morning fwiw.

[johncsimpson] 29/6/2012 07:15

A litle bit off recent comment from RHPS:

Avanti's second satellite, Hylas 2, is scheduled for launch at 9.50pm on August 2nd. It is encouraging to see that this launch has not suffered from the delays of Hylas 1 and while it is not impossible that the launch may end in disaster, these days it is most unlikely. Unlike Hylas 1, which is serving the European market, the bigger Hylas 2 will be serving the fast growing markets of Eastern and Southern Africa, the Middle East and across the Caucasus. Soon Avanti will be generating revenues from two satellites, with a third to follow and I believe it to be making enough money to justify a much higher share price. BUY UP TO 750p

[2350220] 28/6/2012 14:37

A few days ago, Backmarker mentioned:
"I'll be interested to find out what he meant by being "creative" regards financing".

Isn't this the sort of deal they have already done with financing Hy3?
I believe that they had some deal with sharing the cost but reducing their own capacity or somesuch, but reducing their own liability greatly?

That might be the sort of initiative DW was referring to.

John

[willessa] 28/6/2012 14:25

I also think that upon successful launch and therefore cashflow we will hear about Hylas4 within 6 months. This will be possible without further dilution due to the aforementioned strong cashflows.

Winwin.

[yorgi] 28/6/2012 13:13

We need some figures for the revenue from Hylas 1 that will give the market confidence in us.......or not if that is the case !

Agreed Backmarker some more contract wins announced as well.

[backmarker] 28/6/2012 12:37

one of the factors that didn't help after launching H-1 was the time it took to get it operational - and therefore revenue-earning (unless they were getting paid for confidential govt - a la GCHQ - stuff during that phase).

we have been told the time to operational status will be much less this time.

as well as the launch I would expect a trading statement around then anticipating the full-year (to end-Jun) figs which will come around Oct.

hopefully we will get some more contracts announced too.

Sept is usually a positive month for shares, so if there is any upward momentum in the share price post-launch then it might be kept going for a while longer.

[yorgi] 28/6/2012 11:28

Still edging up, slowly very slowly but the trend is up :-)

[cancun tango] 28/6/2012 10:40

Gorvachof

I must admit, for some reason, I thought H2 sales were almost at the level of H1 sales already. Some new contract RNSs would be welcome.

[yorgi] 28/6/2012 10:30

We now have our launch date confirmed so perhaps the interest will build now before launch and lets hope this time after launch we don't see the share price fall away but continue to rise.

With Hylas 2 in service we will be covering a far greater area, covering Europe, Middle East and Africa which will give us a massive market to increase not only our customer base but company recognition.

[johncsimpson] 28/6/2012 10:29

Sold my SXX but added to RMP

[yorgi] 28/6/2012 10:26

A slow start today but edging up further again.......:-)

[gorvachof] 28/6/2012 09:10

So Aug 2nd it is then, Intelsats review board must have given the go ahead for IS-20.

Thanks for posting the FT article Cancun, any thoughts on the 13% presold capacity fill of Hylas 2? I know they were targeting 25% at service launch, so perhaps some of those larger contracts could make the difference in these two months.

[yorgi] 28/6/2012 07:16

So far your wrong divinausa1 and that is a fact !

[divinausa1] 28/6/2012 06:58

johncsimpson
27 Jun'12 - 11:18 - 9270 of 9276

divinausa1 27 Jun'12 - 11:13 - 9269 of 9269

. . . . whatever they said in this market it would not make a blind difference, the share price will be back under 3 quid within a few days and thats a fact!

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Rubbish!!

That's no more than an opinion - back it up with something . . .
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i was wrong to say fact! but i guarantee that i will be right.... current market stinks!

[backmarker] 28/6/2012 06:48

VA207 still on track for 5th July:

[thescoop] 27/6/2012 20:27

Thanks for your post (9273) backmarker!

[johncsimpson] 27/6/2012 16:00

One day indicator gone back positive, another flicking back and forth, the third neutral . . .

[buywell2] 27/6/2012 14:07

I think you are one of the rose tinted brigade

RISK should be considered by the savvy investor


Space so full of junk that a satellite collision could destroy communications on Earth

Space is so littered with debris that a collision between satellites could set off an "uncontrolled chain reaction" capable of destroying the communications network on Earth, a Pentagon report warned.

Artwork showing space debris in low and geostationary Earth orbit. Space debris includes thousands of inactive satellites, fragments of broken up spacecraft and equipment lost by astronauts.

The volume of abandoned rockets, shattered satellites and missile shrapnel in the Earth's orbit is reaching a "tipping point" and is now threatening the $250 billion (£174bn) space services industry, scientists said.

A single collision between two satellites or large pieces of "space junk" could send thousands of pieces of debris spinning into orbit, each capable of destroying further satellites.

Global positioning systems, international phone connections, television signals and weather forecasts are among the services which are at risk of crashing to a halt.

This "chain reaction" could leave some orbits so cluttered with debris that they become unusable for commercial or military satellites, the US Defense Department's interim Space Posture Review warned last year.

There are also fears that large pieces of debris could threaten the lives of astronauts in space shuttles or at the International Space Station.


The report, which was sent to Congress in March and not publicly released, said space is "increasingly congested and contested" and warned the situation is set to worsen.

Bharath Gopalaswamy, an Indian rocket scientist researching space debris at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, estimates that there are now more than 370,000 pieces of junk compared with 1,100 satellites in low-Earth orbit (LEO), between 490 and 620 miles above the planet.

The February 2009 crash between a defunct Russian Cosmos satellite and an Iridium Communications Inc. satellite left around 1,500 pieces of junk whizzing around the earth at 4.8 miles a second.

A Chinese missile test destroyed a satellite in January 2007, leaving 150,000 pieces of debris in the atmosphere, according to Dr Gopalaswamy.

The space junk, dubbed "an orbiting rubbish dump", also comprises nuts, bolts, gloves and other debris from space missions.

"This is almost the tipping point," Dr Gopalaswamy said. "No satellite can be reliably shielded against this kind of destructive force."

The Chinese missile test and the Russian satellite crash were key factors in pushing the United States to help the United Nations issue guidelines urging companies and countries not to clutter orbits with junk, the Space Posture Review said in May.

The United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA) issued Space Debris Mitigation Guidelines in 2009, urging the removal of spacecraft and launch vehicles from the Earth's orbit after the end of their missions.

Mazlan Othman, director of UNOOSA, said space needs "policies and laws to protect the public interest".

He added: "We should have all the instruments to make sure that lifestyles are not disrupted because of misconduct in space when people switch the television to watch the World Cup next month in Johannesburg."

[cancun tango] 27/6/2012 13:48

Lol. How about the old solar flares risk, that has't been mentioned for about three weeks. What next, aliens from outer space? You're posts are sounding ever more desperate.

[buywell2] 27/6/2012 13:32

And you think that China or Russia or Iran can't decrypt do you ?


Another Risk is somewhat suprisingly collision with another satellite

What is not suprising is that these suposedly freak collisions .... can be engineered just the same as road crashes are .... where there is money there is crime



The amount of space junk capable of cusing damage has thus increased as a result

'Space doesn't have any rules of the road'

[yorgi] 27/6/2012 13:16

Looks to me as if the market is feeling very slightly more confident now perhaps it will lift us with it :-)

[backmarker] 27/6/2012 13:02

thescoop,

the Arianespace website normally shows the whole liftoff plus commentary live.

from memory they normally publish the link for viewing from a week or so beforehand.

either watch their website or continue to follow this bb, where doubtless some kind soul will relay the info once available.

I watched the Hylas 1 liftoff and I have to say it was very exciting, not least because I felt "I own a bit of that" ! when those boosters kick in and the whole rocket lifts off it really does make you marvel at what man has achieved.

[yorgi] 27/6/2012 11:20

Divinausa,

It is NOT a fact it is just your opinion which may or may not be the case, you know as well as anyone that you can't be sure of anything so it is not a fact.

We all know the market is dire to say the least and it will need more than just launch date confirmation to move the share price much. I had commented several times that I hoped that the BOD would give out some figures for Hylas 1 sales/revenue but I'm afraid as yet they haven't.

[iantrader2] 27/6/2012 11:20

not a fact but a high probability event

[johncsimpson] 27/6/2012 11:18

divinausa1 27 Jun'12 - 11:13 - 9269 of 9269

. . . . whatever they said in this market it would not make a blind difference, the share price will be back under 3 quid within a few days and thats a fact!

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Rubbish!!

That's no more than an opinion - back it up with something . . .