Astrazeneca Share Discussion Threads

[essentialinvestor] 09/4/2021 17:50

Still no herd immunity in Manaus Brazil, eventhough it was suggested that
milestone had been reached late last year - so either wanning immunity, reinfections
with a new variant (P1) or an overestimating of the numbers who would be immune
by late 2020 - perhaps an element of all 3.

Israel data looks very positive as does the UK, vaccination clearly working.
The key is can we prevent mass new variant reinfections and if people get
reinfected could previous infection/existing vaccines mitigate more serious cases.

Even If millions get reinfected, but with mild or asymptomatic cases, then
we can still pretty much return to normal.


BMJ article on Brazil:

[blusteradjuster] 09/4/2021 16:55

It'll take forever to reach herd immunity that way, EI.

Why they don't they go door to door..?

[essentialinvestor] 09/4/2021 16:02

* Human trials at the Royal Free in Hampstead where healthy volunteers are
intentionally infected with the virus.

It was cleared by the ethics committee back in February so may now be underway.

[blusteradjuster] 09/4/2021 15:53

Don't know why the EMA don't just approve a blast of SARS-CoV-2 up the nose and be done with it.

[raydxx] 09/4/2021 15:38

Have the Americans been hiding their data?

[minerve 2] 09/4/2021 15:34

J&J uses the same delivery mechanism as the AZN vaccine I read somewhere. I also read there are Pfizer cases too. Lots of noise. Lots of lobbying going on.

[maxk] 09/4/2021 15:31

The European Medicines Agency said on Friday that it has started a review to assess blood clots in people who received Johnson & Johnson’s Covid-19 vaccine.

Bloomberg reported that four serious cases of rare clots accompanied by low blood platelets, one of which was fatal, have emerged after vaccination with the J&J jab.

The move turns the European regulator's safety scrutiny on a second Covid vaccination, after the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab was possibly linked to a rare blood-clotting disorder.

One of the blood clot cases following the J&J jab happened during a clinical trial. At the time, the company responded saying it had found no evidence the vaccine was at fault.

The three other cases occurred in the United States, where the shot has been given to almost 5 million people.

Though the J&J vaccine is approved in the EU, its rollout in the bloc isn't expected to start until later this month.

However, the EU is relying on the single-shot vaccine to boost its Covid-19 immunization programme amid restrictions in some countries on use of the AstraZeneca jab, which is administered in two doses, for certain age groups.

[minerve 2] 09/4/2021 13:07

"one of the benefits of being an adult."

Could be a disadvantage. :)

It depends on the adult.

[essentialinvestor] 09/4/2021 12:52

wipo, good for you. It's entirely your own decision,
one of the benefits of being an adult.

[coxsmn] 09/4/2021 12:49

Good post.Hopefully current vaccines will protect us from developing serious illness from new strains.

[minerve 2] 09/4/2021 12:48

From what I have read so far it does seem that the current AZN vaccine offers reasonable protection against the new variants in SA and Brazil. How long this lasts who knows. Yes, we are fortunate, but for how long.

[wipo1] 09/4/2021 12:47

Never had the flu jab and never had the flu, its a money spinner

[essentialinvestor] 09/4/2021 12:34

M, we can only vaccinate against so many of these variants.
Seasonal flu jab, from memory, targets 3 or 4 strains annually.

For example, if a person was vaccinated against a P1 strain, would
that protect against a similar further mutation, or at least provide
some mitigation against serious illness.

For the time being we are in a fortunate position in the UK.

[coxsmn] 09/4/2021 12:18

North Carolina halting J&J vaccine as a lot of people fainting after receiving the jab

hxxps://www.aol.com/news/north-carolina-sites-halt-j-000205052-081444800.html?soc_src=aolapp

[minerve 2] 09/4/2021 11:51

At some point I'm assuming statistical data will show other vaccines to have clotting and other side effects. I'm also assuming that mutations and the nature of COVID will demand regular boosters and new vaccines of which AZN will start to charge with profit.

[essentialinvestor] 09/4/2021 11:33

On the AZN CEO, disagree he should be a cheerleader for the vaccine,
that's not his role or the role of AstraZeneca.

[essentialinvestor] 09/4/2021 11:31

Fred, would agree with that as it goes.

What's unfolding in Brazil and the potential for that area to act as a giant
incubator for new variants may be significantly underestimated.

Average age of ICU patients in some regions of Brazil is now in to the 50's.

[wipo1] 09/4/2021 03:42

Stop talking rubbish it's total exaggeration. There is no way to prove symptoms are caused by a virus

[lendmeafiver] 09/4/2021 00:58

I remember seeing images of people collapsing in streets this time last year, yet still see average age of covid death in the 80s so still don’t understand the hysteria.

[buywell2] 09/4/2021 00:47

The alternative maxk , was to have vaccinated children instead of leaving them unprotected and vulnerable

Disgusting

They should have been number one on the list

[philanderer] 09/4/2021 00:22

'AstraZeneca chief must do more to defend vaccine, says investor'

Pascal Soriot’s decision to stay in Australia with his family “did not give right signal or message”, says EdenTree Investment Management

[maxk] 08/4/2021 23:30

What is the alternative, lockdown forever?