4d Pharma Share Discussion Threads

[master rsi] 27/10/2020 13:26

Devonlad I had a look ealier before adding at the Indicators and the MACD was the most positive of all, at some places were already just crossing "0" not yet convergence blue crossing up red line link [...] advfn does not allow others charts

[1airbag] 27/10/2020 13:25

I added big block on Thursday so frustrating to see it retrace back so much. Paper profit on Friday was very agreeable.

[devonlad] 27/10/2020 13:14

Started adding a few long date spread bets and a cash one for a trade, indicators turning. A bit premature because the hourly macd hasn't crossed but it looks like a bowl forming so I took the plunge. Bit of a funny drop given the nasdaq news and that funding is sorted imho, nai dyor.

[master rsi] 27/10/2020 12:51

I have added because the intraday low 110p was a 61.8% retracement, and have bounce from There

[blueblood] 27/10/2020 12:26

Looking to add more at these levels but no money until next week

[jimbo123elf] 27/10/2020 12:25

Merck raises annual profit outlook as Keytruda drives profit beat

[gooner1886] 27/10/2020 11:52

With sitc coming up in a couple of weeks, if this is at 110p come nasdaq listing i will be very surprised and may hang upMy investing boots lol

[mickinvest] 27/10/2020 11:48

If the price stays around £1.10 when listed on the nasdaq, There's an argument to say that Steve Oliveria will be using his $5m backstop money to increase his holding.

[captain james t kirk] 27/10/2020 11:42

stevevic The offer has been underwritten by 4D directors and Steve Oliveira to the tune of $7 million and Whale, LOAC's major shareholder has accepted.

[gooner1886] 27/10/2020 11:40

Agreed shoudnt go below it

[captain james t kirk] 27/10/2020 11:40

Devonlad I'm no scientist, I leave that sort of stuff to Spock. However, I would imagine that the differential in patents probably has something to do with the science. Seres have been around since 2008, some time before 4D and they both employ around the same number of people. I do know that regulatory clearance is more complex in the consortia approach, so I suppose it follows that the development is more complex and longer also?

[devonlad] 27/10/2020 11:38

We don't know. The deal is very confidential and wrapped in NDA's, I have emailed the company and they wont disclose any details, highly secretive but it would be nice to hear something.

[rastamouse] 27/10/2020 11:35

As a matter of interest, how many milestone payments had 4D received and if so how much??

[stevevic] 27/10/2020 11:32

If the price offered on nasdaq is approx £1.10 per share then surely the UK price can't go below this otherwise it wont get shareholders approvel in the USA ?

[devonlad] 27/10/2020 11:30

Fair point Captain. I think that from a discussion we had when Seres announced the phase 3 trials results and the mcap went from $460m to $2bn roughly, DDDD had around 1000 patents granted and another 1000 pending across a wide range of classes. Seres had something like 64 patents granted across a dozen classes. Stand to be corrected on that obviously but it is an example of the massive range of shots on goal we potentially have. No news on the vaccine deal though, I really would love to hear something about that, even if we have hit a target in the process.

[captain james t kirk] 27/10/2020 11:12

The Stigologist Aren't you clutching at straws again with the Merck/Eisai deal concluded two and a half years ago. Comparing apples and pears so to speak. You have ringed the section where it says launched. That means that Lenvima was already in the market place, selling as an effective cancer therapy in over a dozen jurisdictions. That surely commanded a premium price. You constantly make the same mistake with Seres. They operate in the same space as 4D, namely LBT's, but the science is not the same. 4D are single strain and Seres have enjoyed their success with the consortia of bacteria approach to LBT's. Incidentally, I see that after 12 weeks the efficacy of SER 109 improved over the initial 8 week trial figures for C Diff. So the multi bacteria in a single dose therapy, does appear to work. A good analogy would be shots on goal. The more you have, the more the chance of success.

[deanmatlazin] 27/10/2020 10:50

Did i say within this week?? You INVEST not TRADING ...unless you are a trader. Give it til January when it list on NASDAQ

[jenny tulwought] 27/10/2020 10:41

deanmatlazin 23 Oct '20 - 10:44 - 12410 of 12800 £2 next stop chaps = = = = What ever you say Dean.

[devonlad] 27/10/2020 10:17

Not sure there is a big sell order. Bots are back in control, they will take it up or down as they please, whichever way makes them money. I don't mind a decent drop, clears this bb up from numpties that think an investment is holding a share for more than 24 hours but never make it to a week!

[trotterstrading] 27/10/2020 09:41

Vermin more like

[2prsimo] 27/10/2020 09:41

rastamouse and now a rastarat - infested with rodents!