Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Worthington Grp LSE:WRN London Ordinary Share GB00B01YQ796 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 87.00p 0.00p 0.00p - - - 0 06:31:45
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Personal Goods 0.3 -5.3 -42.0 - 11.20

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22/8/2017
09:20
Worthington Group Daily Update: Worthington Grp is listed in the Personal Goods sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker WRN. The last closing price for Worthington Group was 87p.
Worthington Grp has a 4 week average price of 87p and a 12 week average price of 87p.
The 1 year high share price is 87p while the 1 year low share price is currently 87p.
There are currently 12,869,645 shares in issue and the average daily traded volume is 0 shares. The market capitalisation of Worthington Grp is £11,196,591.15.
29/7/2017
13:25
copperwindow93: giantsquid Posts: 630 Off Topic Opinion: Strong Buy Price: 85.50 View Thread (3)NewcoToday 10:35Assuming we open at around 10p then depending on the number of shares in issue which could be anything from about 11m to 75m or so depending on how you read & interpret the information on Aidan's website, I think it's a fair assumption the share price could potentially rise to somewhere in the region of £1 to £2.50 in the opening weeks and months of trading - and that's BEFORE the acquisitions have completed. Upon completion of the initial acquisitions, again depending on the number of shares in issue, it seems a reasonable assumption we could eventually be looking at a share price of maybe £5 or so? So if we do open at 10p... 10p to £1 = a rise of around 1000% 10p to £2.50 = a rise of around 2500% 10p to £5+ = a rise of around 5000% or so If we open at around 10p then my guess is we could see another WRN style rise of 1500% to 2500% or more in the opening weeks and months and that's BEFORE the initial acquisitions complete. And for the those who buy in at open and hold on to their shares for the longer term, a gain of 5000% or more may be achieved? Of course if we open lower than 10p the % gains could be even greater so for those of us looking to buy lots of newco shares as soon as trading begins, the lower we open, the bigger the gains we are likely to make. On top of this we also have our gifted shares to look forward to which will now be slightly more than a mirrored interest - and also the possibility WRN may be back at some point, possibly with a huge boom. It's been a very long and painful journey but i suspect the moans and groans will soon disappear once trading begins and we start making money. My view is to buy as many newco shares as can afford at open then hold for potentially huge medium to long term gains. Reply | Recommend 4 | Report
13/7/2017
20:41
philobeddoe: Maybe you're right Nigel. If newco lists on say, a French or German exchange, perhaps it'll primarily capture the attention of French or German investors. Perhaps UK investors will only make up a small percentage. But would that really matter? France and Germany for example are both hugely populated, hugely wealthy countries with huge numbers of investors with available cash looking for exciting new opportunities to invest in - just the same as here in the UK. Further down the line, if newco achieves it's ambitions of becoming a successful global conglomerate listed on a major global exchange, perhaps NYSE, then again maybe the majority of investors might end up being a mixture of continental Europeans (French, German, etc) and North American investors with UK investors being in the minority. There are probably comparatively few UK investors invested in many NYSE, French or German companies - but so what, there are no shortages of foreign investors keen to invest on those exchanges so how many UK investors take an interest in them is completely irrelevant. Ask the average UK investor and he/she probably hasn't even heard of most companies on the NYSE - but the fact these overseas companies aren't widely followed, promoted or "ramped" here in the UK - is utterly irrelevant and of no consequence to those companies or their share prices whatsoever. Do you think the share price of foreign companies suffers just because they're not widely promoted in the UK? Do you think that unless foreign shares are ramped on LSE and ADVFN chat boards that nobody will buy in and the share price will tank? Nigel, there's a big wide world out there, lots of overseas investors, lots of overseas exchanges - newco may end up with a large or small % of UK investors and a large or small % of overseas investors - at the end of the day, investors are investors regardless of whether they're UK investors or overseas ones - and the share price still goes up/down just the same whether it's shares bought and sold in dollars, pounds or euros.
06/7/2017
10:42
cliffpeat: Potential for whom, Bill? If a bunch of rich, off-shore registered, guys want jointly to invest in and manage under-performing businesses it's pretty straight forward to set up your own company and get on with it. They just need money, time and good credit lines and a few talented people to run it. Why involve anyone else? Why share the potential gains? BUT WRN had always stressed the importance of having quoted paper as an important part of its resources. To buy a business in exchange for shares is fine in theory - but the perceived and actual value and liquidity of those shares is what the seller of a business assesses. How do you make the shares of a brand new company with no investing or trading history acceptable to someone selling their business? - is the question. And/or how do you make the shares attractive to investors to raise more cash for acquisitions (if needed). There was some question about the lock-in of investors. It is not just the lock-in of investors that should concern shareholders but the lock in of the shares used as consideration to buy the target acquisition businesses. Imagine a situation where the very announcement of an acquisition with forward looking statements (heavily disclaimed – e.g. see WRN RNSs and NobleResolve “capital letter” legal* clauses) creates a furore of “unsophisticated” speculation and sends the share price skywards. If the deal is done and the owners of the acquired business receive a chunk of shares and immediately (or via discounted price CLS) realise them in the bubbling market they have effectively been paid by the “new” shareholders as they buy up available stock at (possibly) inflated share prices. If the very special talents, insight and connections of the management team can turn the acquisition into a business of far greater value than the original owners could – then everyone is happy. However, there are so many other ways of skinning the cat of under-exploited businesses that my view is that WRN and this new venture are poorly conceived business models. Of course there is the potential of “asset stripping” the acquisitions. Ticketus/Rangers/BoS/Whyte/LFL may understand this better than most. #LawyersBenefit * hTTp://nobleresolve.com/legal Bill – I understand “something is better than nothing” and not caring how that is achieved. All just my opinion, of course, and in case of any interest to the 3 or 4 contributors whose posts I still see on ADVFN.
17/6/2017
10:35
copperwindow93: Good post from Giantsquid NewcoToday 08:22It seems likely the opening price might be low (10p to 50p ?) And that after completion of the initial acquisitions, the share price could rise substantially (£2.50 to £5+ ?) A rise from 10p to £2.50 = an increase of 2500% A rise from 10p to £5+ = an increase of 5000%+ A rise from 50p to £2.50 = an increase of 500% A rise from 50p to £5+ = an increase of 1000%+ So for anyone looking to buy in on open if newco opens low at around 10p to 50p - by holding for at least the initial acquisitions they could see a gain of 500% to 5000% + If the share price opened low at 10p to 50p, for every £1000 invested that'd be 2000 to 10,000 shares bought. If after completion of the acquisitions the share price hits £2.50 to £5+ those shares could be worth £5000 to £50,000+ If you bought £5000 worth on open for 10p to 50p (10,000 to 50,000 shares) and the share price hits £2.50 to £5+ those shares could be worth £25,000 to £250,000+ On top of this opportunity to buy in at open and potentially make huge gains by holding for at least the initial acquisitions, we also get the opportunity to make big gains from our gifted shares which could also be several hundred % or more And if that wasn't enough, there remains the possibility WRN may be back, possibly relisting with an acquisition of its own. And if that happens there'd be a good chance we'd get back at least our initial investment money all over again. For those who fully capitalise by loading up at open and holding for the long term (1 to 2+ years) they could end up making some serious, possibly life changing amounts of money from the combination of loading up at open, their free gifted shares and the possibility of WRN coming back.
04/6/2017
12:46
philobeddoe: The lower the opening share price, the more intense the buying pressure is likely to be. HUGE profits are likely to be made by those who pile in at open snapping up large numbers of newco shares and then holding for the longer term. If newco were to open at 10p for example, £10k would buy 100,000 shares. Once the acquisitions complete, with a small number of shares in issue and huge investor interest likely - and based on previous estimations of potential NAV and MCAP (see previous posts) it looks possible the future share price may easily exceed £5 within a relatively short time period of within a year or so. And that's potentially conservative: the share price could go much higher than that over time. And knowing all of this and bearing all of this in mind, investors will almost certainly be scrambling to buy in the moment trading begins - with many investors seeking to buy as many shares as they can as early on as they can for as cheaply as they can. It is HIGHLY LIKELY we'll see a mad, mad rush to buy in on open. And that'll almost certainly have a dramatic effect on the share price. If newco opens low, as expected, then it is HIGHLY LIKELY the rush to buy in on open will send the share price soaring potentially HUNDREDS OF PERCENT over the opening days and weeks. And that's before the first acquisitions have even completed. If newco were to open at around 10p and you bought £10k worth of shares (100,000 shares) then an early rise to just £1 over the opening days and weeks (pre completion of the first acquisitions) would see the value of your £10k investment swell to £100K or more - and yes, that's before the first acquisitions have even completed. Investors will almost certainly be flooding in to buy on open and then holding for the longer term for the acquisitions and the ongoing growth and expansion of the company thereafter. For those who buy in on open, if newco opens at anything like 10 pence a share, profits in excess of 5000% to 10000% (or more) may easily be realised by those who buy in early and then hold for the longer term.
29/5/2017
17:38
philobeddoe: On 9/1/2015, Worthington published an RNS announcing that upon successful completion of the acquisitions, net asset value of the group, ON A FULLY DILUTED BASIS, was expected to exceed USD $2 BILLION (£1500 Million approx). On 21/4/2017 AE stated that the key original acquisitions remain ready to be completed by newco. Could it be that the words "key original" refer to the biggest, most important, most valuable, cornerstone acquisitions that were originally intended to be completed by Worthington and which will now be completed by newco? If so, the "key original acquisitions" may represent a significant percentage of the original USD $2 Billion NAV figure? Potentially then, upon completion of the acquisitions, could the asset value of newco be substantial (possibly even as much as £500m - £1000m+?). There are many examples of companies whereby MCAP has reached many multiples of NAV. It is therefore perfectly reasonable to expect MCAP to reach, in a relatively short period of time, let's say 1-3 years, around 25% - 50% of NAV. Assuming a NAV of around £500m - £1000m+ that would equate to a potential MCAP range of around £125m - £500m+ for years 1 - 3 following successful completion of the acquisitions. It looks likely shares in issue upon launch may be small, potentially anything from about 10m to 75m or thereabouts. If we were to assume the figure might be around 25m, based on an MCAP range of £125m - £500m+ that would equate to a potential share price of £5 - £20± for years 1 - 3+ (in that scenario). It is highly likely newco will open low, indeed there is some speculation that the opening price may be as low as 10p. Knowing all of this and bearing all of this in mind, if the share price were to open low, as expected, then it is HIGHLY LIKELY, bordering on COMPLETE CERTAINTY that we will see an almighty rush by investors to buy in the moment trading begins. Buying pressure will almost certainly be intense from the moment trading begins. And the lower the share price opens at, the more intense the buying pressure is likely to be. And large numbers of investors are likely to have the same idea - to get in as early as you can, buy as many shares as you can and then hold for the long term and completion of the acquisitions. Very few, if any, will be selling upon commencement of trading. There will be no mass exodus of locked in shareholders upon commencement of trading - there is no possibility at all of that happening. From the moment trading begins, the buying pressure will almost certainly be intense. Regardless of what price newco opens at, irrespective of how low the opening price is, the buying will almost certainly be relentless, hour after hour, day after day. And that, combined with a small number of shares in issue is likely to have a dramatic effect on the share price. Even before the first acquisitions have completed, there is a VERY HIGH CHANCE the share price could rise possibly HUNDREDS OF PERCENT in the opening days and weeks of trading. And investors know this - they saw what happened to FGCN after speculation starting circulating that it might be newco. And if the share price opens low, then the same huge early rise of many 100's of percent will almost certainly happen with newco - and that's before the first acquisitions have even completed. And that is why so many investors will be keen to pile in the moment trading begins snapping up as many shares as they can for as cheaply as they can. BIG MONEY, EVEN LIFE CHANGING AMOUNTS OF MONEY COULD BE MADE BY THOSE INVESTORS WHO PILE IN UPON COMMENCEMENT OF TRADING, BUYING HUGE NUMBERS OF CHEAP SHARES AND THEN HOLDING ON TO THEM FOR THE LONGER TERM. Upon completion of the acquisitions, with a low number of shares in issue, substantial cash, substantially cash generative, huge investor interest and more acquisitions lining up to be completed thereafter in the months and years ahead, there is every possibility of seeing a share price of £5, £7, maybe even £10, £15+ over the longer term. If newco were to open at something low like 10p a rise to £5 would see a profit of 5000% : a rise to £10 would see a profit of 10000% Those who do sell their gifted shares upon commencement of trading will almost certainly end up cheating themselves of making potentially HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS OF PERCENT PROFIT. Time will almost certainly prove that those who sold out upon commencement of trading, those who so foolishly allowed themselves to become brainswashed by unscrupulous trolls into selling their shares at the earliest opportunity and for the lowest price - will have made the single most costly and atrocious investment decision of their investment lives. And the day will surely come when these ex shareholders will look back in anger at trolls they once so foolishly trusted and who lied to them and misled them into selling their gifted shares upon opening, cheating them of making potentially huge long term profits.
26/5/2017
06:39
philobeddoe: If newco opens low, as expected, then it is HIGHLY LIKELY the share price will increase rapidly from the outset. And the lower newco opens at, the more intense the buying pressure is likely to be. ALL OF THE KEY ORIGINAL ACQUISITIONS remain on track to be completed by newco. And further potential deals are lining up beyond that. Upon completion of the initial acquisitions, newco will have substantial assets, substantial cash and be substantially cash generative. Upon completion of the acquisitions, with a small number of shares in issue looking likely, huge investor interest guaranteed and substantial cash and assets, newco's share price has huge potential to boom. Knowing all of this, if newco opens low, as expected, we are likely to see a buying frenzy upon commencement of trading as investors scramble to snap up cheap shares - make no mistake about it, that WILL happen. Even before the acquisitions complete, it is HIGHLY LIKELY the share price will rise significantly from whatever price it opens at, possibly by HUNDREDS OF PERCENT. If newco were to open at 10p for example, and if, upon completion of the initial acquisitions the share price were to climb and exceed £5, which is perfectly possible, even likely, then that alone would represent an increase of 5000%, a rise from 10p to £10 would see an increase of 10000% Big money is likely to be made by those who buy in at open and hold for the longer term. And upon completion of the acquisitions, the share price has the potential to go much higher. And the share price is likely to continue on an upward trend over time as the company continues to grow and more and more acquisitions are completed. After all these years, Berkshire Hathaway's share price is STILL on an upward trend for example. And that same share price trajectory is likely to happen with newco, ie, a long term uptrend. For these reasons, nobody in their right mind will be selling their gifted shares upon commencement of trading. There will be no mass exodus of shareholders upon commencement of trading. There is no prospect at all of that happening. And time will almost certainly prove that those few who did sell upon commencement of trading will have made a catastrophic investment decision - quite probably the single worst, most poorly judged, most grossly misguided investment decision of their investment lives. One that will likely have cost them the opportunity to make hundreds, if not thousands of percent profit which may have been realised if only they had held on to their shares for longer and had not listened to the trolls and critics.
20/5/2017
17:08
bbmsionlypostafter: Who was it that did a very similar table of how much shorters were going to lose on CTAG if it went to the absurd heights the rampers were predicting? Was it DavidGreece or Aberdeenman or someone else? Whoever it was he's back. This is so much like that it's impossible to be a coincidence... giantsquid Posts: 595 Off Topic Opinion: Strong Buy Price: 87.00 If share price opened @........ Today 15:50 If share price opened @ 10p £1000 would buy 10,000 shares 10,000 shares X £5 share price = £50K 10,000 shares X £10 share price = £100K £10,000 would buy 100,000 shares 100,000 shares X £5 share price = £500,000 100,000 shares X £10 share price = £1 million If share price opened @ 25p £1000 would buy 4000 shares 4000 shares X £5 share price = £20,000 4000 shares X £10 share price = £40,000 £10,000 would buy 40,000 shares 40,000 shares X £5 share price = £200,000 40,000 shares X £10 share price = £400,000 If share price opened @ 50p £1000 would buy 2000 shares 2000 shares X £5 share price = £10,000 2000 shares X £10 share price = £20,000 £10,000 would buy 20,000 shares 20,000 shares X £5 share price = £100,000 20,000 shares X £10 share price = £200,000 If share price opened @ 75p £1000 would buy 1333 shares 1333 shares X £5 share price = £6665 1333 shares X £10 share price = £13,330 £10,000 would buy 13,333 shares 13,333 shares X £5 share price = £66,666 13,333 shares X £10 share price = £133,330 If share price opened @ £1 £1000 would buy 1000 shares 1000 shares X £5 share price = £5,000 1000 shares X £10 share price = £10,000 £10,000 would buy 10,000 shares 10,000 shares X £5 share price = £50,000 10,000 shares X £10 share price = £100,000
04/8/2016
13:19
papillon: Some people believe the Earth is flat. Others believe man has never set foot on the Moon. Yet others believe the 9/11 twin towers attack was the work of George W Bush in conjunction with the Jews. Many American voters believe Donald Trump is possessed of many (maybe all) of the qualities necessary to become President of the USA (LOL). No amount of evidence will convince these believers otherwise. Similarly some believe that WRN will return from suspension and the WRN share price will rocket. It's an act of faith; they are believers and no amount of evidence to the contrary will convince them otherwise. I suppose that's why apparently sane, rational, educated, people fall for the very obvious internet scams organised by the many conmen populating the web. Boiler room scams being an obvious example, where people spend tens of thousands of pounds on worthless shares and end up losing all of their money.
22/2/2015
00:10
papillon: cautioussid Posts: 16,155 Premium Chat Member Off Topic Opinion: No Opinion Price: 87.00 shakeyourbodySat 23:51 also hoping that WRN will be able to RELEASE THE INFORMATION over a number of weeks , and it will be interesting to how much this share price moves up ,when one looks at how many posts are coming in it makes me so pleased that I hold wrn shares >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "makes me so pleased that I hold wrn shares" Sorry sid you're not cautious at all. In fact time will prove you were very reckless to buy WRN shares!! sid? A deluded fantasist like many who post on the lse bb. I'm not trying to knock the WRN share price so it opens lower when it re-lists because I don't believe it will re-list.
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