Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Versarien LSE:VRS London Ordinary Share GB00B8YZTJ80 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +6.00p +18.75% 38.00p 37.50p 38.50p 39.00p 31.50p 32.125p 7,505,243 16:29:08
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Industrial Engineering 5.9 -2.2 -1.9 - 56.04

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22/11/2017
08:20
Versarien Daily Update: Versarien is listed in the Industrial Engineering sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker VRS. The last closing price for Versarien was 32p.
Versarien has a 4 week average price of 14.50p and a 12 week average price of 12.25p.
The 1 year high share price is 39p while the 1 year low share price is currently 9.25p.
There are currently 147,475,409 shares in issue and the average daily traded volume is 3,685,499 shares. The market capitalisation of Versarien is £56,040,655.42.
19/11/2017
11:02
grabster: Someone above displayed his own calculations of where the VRS share price might go and concluded that doubling over the next 12 months was a fair bet. My bet is nearer to a doubling within 12 weeks (say 50p by late February).
18/11/2017
07:15
chillpill: I read this bb and think that some people (probably the trader trash lot) have totally unrealistic expectations on how quickly this company might progress. People make reference to this being an "ASOS" however to have made the really serious money you need to have held it for 5,10 or 15 years. Building a company and revenue just doesn't happen overnight and that should be reflective in the share price. If you are able to find a company that is capable of doubling every year for 10 years then (using the simple compounding theory and the grains of rice on the Chess board) then you will make more than 1000x your money. VRS has doubled it's share price for this year (probably wont go up too much more this year unless more news in next 3 weeks) and 50p is definitely a reasonable target for the end of next year. 75p is feasible with a string of good news. On that basis a 1p upward move per week is all I believe the more optimist should expect.Anything else would be a massive bonus. Talk of criticising the company for a Friday press release or not having the name of the other company(does it really matter if it is ULVR,PG or RB etc?)is purely trader trash talk. The company is fully funded and all they need to do is focus on building the new team, increasing revenues and profitably then the share price will look after itself. NB.I have bought a shareholding in last 3 months and doubt I will be selling an shares until 2019 or 2020 at the earliest.
26/9/2017
20:12
luckyorange: Now now phoenix, I think that he is the only one who can provide clarity on this lol. He may have single handedly stopped the dive in the VRS share price although 14p may always have been the stopping point so there is no way of knowing. Unfortunately I think that he has made a mistake in bailing as he so often pointed out regarding LO, however it is not for us to judge what is right or wrong , we will know in the near future what was the pragmatic thing to do. There seem to be many with a similar holding to warwick that are investors rather than traders. Sadly warwick seems to be propping up the share price on the other one for other traders to exit, but he has his goggles on!
22/9/2017
18:30
superg1: So there is quick comparison for you. Directa with an M/C of £27.7 mill £650k of revenue with a warning that is going to significantly drop and losses of £5.5 mill. VRS with around £8.5 mill revenue to come with growing sales market cap £19.4 mill. A completely bonkers market purely driven by how tight share are. Worse still Directa was over £50 mill just months back and the share price collapsed. \ However up steps William Game of Cantor Fitzgerald pumping it in a note. The note had lies in it so I wondered what his motive may be to drive up the share price after the collapse. Then I spotted it. His bruvs fund holds near 10% of the shares. Nice One will and Hopefully the FCA are on the case. I have asked they check for trades by the fund to make sure they don't sell into that lying note. Here you go Cantor Fitzgerald has upgraded Directa Plus Plc (LON:DCTA), saying the graphene-products supplier is “profoundly221; undervalued at the current share price. That share price was 32p or so when the broker note was written; it is now 38p after Cantor’s argument that the stock is bafflingly mispriced. Baffingly mispriced ??? 740k and a warning of a significant drop to come.
13/9/2017
15:23
severnof9: My view of the AGM Allotment of 19 million additional shares The intention is to issue for cash if the need arises. Usually allot 10% of shares but Versarian have chosen to issue 15%. The rationale is that this is a very interesting time in the growth of the business and they require maximum flexibility to achieve on what is an outstanding opportunity. Previously the Co used to raise cash with a placing but this exposes the Co to uncertainty while the placing is concluded. The institutions take maximum advantage during this delay. However, on the last occasion they used Primary Bid Platform which did not please the city but allowed private investors a similar opportunity to the city to buy at a discount. They were massively oversubscribed and allotted more shares to take advantage of the interest and to benefit PI’s (the intention was 50% to institutions and 50 % to PI’s but due to PI interest they allotted 0.5 million additional shares. If they need to raise capital again they may go for a 100% PI placing through Primary Bid or similar platform. The draw-back is that limited notice is required i.e. issued on a Friday and completed over the weekend. PI’s need to have ready cash to take advantage of any such placing. There is no immediate intention to use this facility My view That is a risk to any future placing which may be under subscribed so I would expect some Institutional Investment involvement in future to at least part underwrite any future placing. Buyback of up to 13 million shares Again this is for maximum flexibility. . No present intention to utilise this facility but could aid in flattening the volatility of a share price. NR referred to the recent LO selling following the Henderson team joining LO. He felt the share price has held up well in view of the numbers being sold but buy buck gives potential tool to exert some control where excessive selling isn’t justified and an advantage could be achieved through a buyback. NR happy when people sell as he does not want to benefit those who aren’t firm/committed shareholders. Clearly he genuinely believes the prospects of the Co are very bright. However, like all of us he is sad when the price is low and happier when the price is high. This is still a speculative proposition but NR is working hard to secure a development or commercial order and his job is to prioritise this from all of the unsolicited approaches they receive. Currently there are about 120 multinationals that the Co has had enquiries from. His priority is to get the product out there and currently there is a conflict between providing free/ subsidised a samples and charging a commercial rate for the product... Once a multinational expresses interest they absorb a lot of management time with queries etc. At that point to test commitment NR asks for a £100K commitment for exclusivity. The Multinationals move very slowly and only move fast once they have lost ground to their competitors. By securing that first commercial agreement the traction for further commercialisation will follow by competitors following suit. The priority on commercial contracts is Nanene and then Ink   Nanene Name is very well received to differentiate from competitors and NR feels VRS was lucky to get the name ISO & Nanene Too early to apply for ISO certification as process is not understood. NR clear that Nanene will qualify but not the other products Nanene production Currently 100 g per day based on a 2 shift basis. Could increase x 10 for £ 150K capital outlay and limited employee costs as only semi-skilled work to produce it. 1Kg would equate to 1000 litre bottle. Product process is Not patented. Risk in patenting is that know how is public and large OEM simply copies without IP rights and runs the risk of patent suits. Approach of VRS is to keep it black box to avoid IP battles. NR believes VRS are the largest manufacturer and commercial seller of graphene product in the world. Could sell at £2000 per gram at £1998 profit but as indicated above a commercial decision is taken about pricing to get the product out there to secure that first big order. Can scale up in 8 weeks. Machine to do so is commercially available and it is simply a question of best cash utilisation as to when this will occur.In my view NR considers that commercial viability tipping point is fast approaching. Nanene Commercialisation 4 stages 1) Enquiry 2) NDA 3) Collaboration/development contract 4) Commercial Order. NR believes we are a long way into this process. When pressed no timetable was forthcoming as the timing is totally within the control of others. Licensing Nanene production NR would not be drawn but my view is that discussions are in play either internally in the Co or with an interested party. I suspect it is the latter NGI Can’t make graphene in quantity and buy in from VRS California NR off to west coast tomorrow. Through work with Manchester, NGI, Innovate & Cambridge received considerable unsolicited approaches leading to NR spending 10 days in California meeting the likes of Tesla, Microsoft Apple Google all at chief officer level Cheltenham site Moving Cu Foam to Princes Risborough to free up space. My view to enable VRS to produce Nanene enhanced carbon fibre components for retail/sale. NR wants to get away from simply producing Nanene as a commodity and exert greater control by producing graphene enhanced components. VRS could be a world first in production line of graphene enhanced carbon fibre products with ISO certification. They have already produced a sled for the Olympic team in collaboration with Sheffield University with a view to having their product out there and independently tested/verified. My guess would be light weighting for aerospace parts that are not integral to the airframe example seats trolleys etc. Alternatively Grant Sinclair the production engineer was at the AGM at the invite of NR who believes collaboration with a product designer would benefit both. hxxp://www.grantsinclair.com/en/all-products.html Ink Products are available for printed graphene RFIDs and circuits. Been in discussion for 3 years re RFIDs with major US internet retailer but slow to progress given this is a disruptive technology Cu Foam Selling through Mouser with regular orders but not a current priority for VRS. VRS have learned that disruptive technology is not always welcomed as this entails considerable work to redesign by incumbents. Are however working with large manufacturer of internet infrastructure Conclusion I liked NR. He has a personal interest in seeing this succeed and I believe he will be successful. He is down to earth, genuinely appreciative of PI's and convinced he will succeed given the opportunities arising. he has the foresight to see the prospects for the future and the tenacity and commitment to succeed. I was reassured my investment is in good hands
06/9/2017
10:16
astralvision: phoenixs It's just me, but I have no interest in discussing another share on here. But I'm very happy to discuss VRS valuations. I did say yesterday as well that if graphene showed real financial progress, the market would or should award the graphene bit a high valuation. let's get this bit out the way first, I'm happy to buy more VRS on a rising share price and substantiated progress, I prefer to buy into a rising trend, so , no, I'm not trying to knock the share price down to buy lower. In any case, anything I do would be swamped by other PI's and funds, I ain't got that much spare! Onto valuations. VRS has the 'mature' businesses of carbide and AAC. Their worth is low, you only have to see what VRS paid for them to get an idea of their worth. I accept that VRS may have got them for a good price, and that they may help other aspects of the business and may help de-risk the graphene side. But the market cap of VRS will, imo, essentially derive from the Graphene businesses, where NR spends 90% of his time on. They are, as is to be expected at this stage, loss making. I would not class them as 'growth companies' yet, as growth, to me, implies at least rising revenues and VRS graphene is right at the early stage of revenue recognition. They may well become growth companies in time. The current VRS valuation of around £18m mainly hinges on 'hope value' for the graphene businesses. Nothing at all wrong in that, but that is where VRS are at. Progress, based on what NR said earlier in the year, is looking slower than NR anticipated. Nothing unusual there. So that's may take. I hope and trust that nothing in the above is too controversial and I don't get hung out to dry for taking a view that is slightly different to others.
02/8/2017
16:31
ridicule: John Henry I was the 108 seller at 10.10 today. I still have a substantial holding, but very few on here ever mention the lost 'opportunity cost' of trapped or dead money when a share languishes. I have mentioned the poor sales performance of VRS on this site several times over recent months; this has effectively stopped all the money invested here from working to create value over the period in question. I exited with a 16.83% profit on that holding this morning. This was achieved in less than 10 months. I have put the £18k to work elsewhere for a time where it can better earn its keep and possibly offset the dead money that I still have here because of the continued poor performance of the VRS share price due to lack of action. This is not trading Superg, its active investing. I still hold out hope for VRS which is why I still have a significant holding, Neill has not delivered sufficiently to stop me reducing at this stage however. As I see it, I can get back in in around 30 secs using 3 or 4 mouse clicks. I suspect the first signs of business breakthrough here will not be instantly transformational for the share price and I may be able to add at a lower price than today if matters remain as quiet here as they have over the last 9 months.
02/6/2017
16:38
rogerbridge: Yes SG, Epson in particular caught my eye for the ink side. Samsung and others spent a great deal of money on one company and ended up in a blind alley. There are some global companies who would be in touch with the NGI and Nanene has been certified and ready to go. As I have said before, once bitten, twice shy a lot of CTO's have egg on their faces and there will be more than one very unhappy CFO. CTO's will not want to make the same mistake twice, it's too risky for their career, let alone the company that they work for. There will be NDA's and a lot of testing and proving to do, but VRS have the genuine article, Nanene or Inks. Why would any company want to go elsewhere? There have been too many short term investors here and it may be several months before the blue touch paper is lit up. But then, what a beautiful site as VRS share price goes balistic. Well that's what I hope for, we shall see.
16/5/2017
18:32
superg1: Rhe I was having a conversation about 'investors' on BBs earlier today. Many are not investors but just short term share price chasers. I'm quite happy to do that with some but then I call it trading with little long term interest in the company and rarely post. Equally I know some on here are long term investors and they have build up positions in excess of 250k shares and others over 500k shares. Now with those amount you can more or less be called a potential long term investor as if you tried to offload those on bad news you are not going to get a good price. Then if you had managed to cash in over time on the drift then on good news you may want them back but the same problem exists. So for me when I like something I buy and hold as it's pointless me trying to guess on news and whether stock will be available. Currently it's still over 100% from a few months back and over 40% up since the fund raise. I have thoughts of a much higher share price based on the research and the leads VRS have, so I'll be hanging on for that but have an open target as one good turn could create another. I've watched companies go to ridiculous levels due to be signed up with 1 company and watched one well known AIM soar on the back of a deal with someone VRS are in an NDA with. So if such circs come about then anyone trying to get 250k shares or 500k shares plus is going to struggle and be battling with others looking to land up. Clearly there is enough churn/supply at the moment probably down to profit taking at this time and it may continue for weeks. However if big news come when there is no supply or big news ends such a supply then the share price would take off. When you get good prospects on the back of such news funds come in and sit sucking up all the trader sells. We've all seen it before. That's the gamble, go in when the share price is low while others are fearful, or wait and chase the trend with more security. Someone used Samsung as an example over on III. So if they signed with Samsung or Apple (just using the big names) what then. Is it a case of waiting to see if Apple or Samsung throw in a big order or take a stake in the company. Just throwing the thoughts out there. As mentioned I watched the herd nutters wet their pants as they have heard company A is talking to their Aim company and the BBs go ramptastic. VRS is chatting to 50-100 companies in NDAs many of which are very large companies. They in the main have approached VRS. Who was that company adding something to coke (tomato extract) chatting to coke, claims of factory staff with shares in tears as they were all going to be rich. PXS or something like that. Posters can be absolutely barmy at times, I have many as just seriously problematic gambling addicts and others just plain bonkers. The venom that comes out when greed turns into despair is incredible. Plenty of chat about sorting sales. They are sorting sales and the team has expanded since I last mentioned them. The last thing they need to be doing is to be making a pretty website for PIs to look at. The website doesn't create sales, the product and team do.
23/11/2016
11:08
ridicule: SG and others. We must all be careful that our gleened knowledge of Graphene and the associated GNPs do not become so influencial that they cloud our observations on business developments in this market. The following is out in print in the public domain and no one from either Haydale or Huntsman have challenged it to my knowledge: "Ray Gibbs, chief executive of Haydale, is confident a deal will soon be signed which could potentially create a recurring revenue stream for the small cap. It could be a big prize as Huntsman is a major resin supplier to the tooling market. Gibbs believes Haydale will be asked to supply a master batch of graphine-enhanced resin. Huntsman will then be responsible for sales and marketing. We believe they want to focus on the automotive industry for the enhanced resin, but they won't tell us until a license deal is signed he says. Gibbs suggests the contract-assuming one is awarded-would involve Haydale buying resin from hHntsman, adding its magic, and then selling the enhanced resin back to the chemicals group. That implies Haydale would need to find a chunk of cash to act as working capital to fund the purchase of the raw material." There are no indications of the quantities involved or the quality/type of the graphene infusion process. Given SGs input it would not seem that it is 'top end', but these people are not stupid and I cannot accept some of the comments here suggesting or infering that they are. I think we should be focusing on why the VRS NOMAD is not achieving the same level of publicity for VRS and ensuring the market understands where VRS sit in relations to competitors such as Haydale. If this was made clear and was as positive as SG believes, the share price would start to move. I for one, as an investor in VRS and not Haydale, would like to see far more clarity on where VRS sit. I hope there will be some clarification in 6 days time when the latest results are declared. Having a competitor in this field, such as Haydale, with only 17.01 million shares in issue and a share price of 180 -185p, compared to VRS with 105.52 shares in issue and a share price of just 11.5p makes me nervous. Haydale have a much stronger investment engine to raise funding to compete via equity release than VRS by an order of nearly 16 to 1 . Given this, I need to know just how much of different market VRS are operating in.
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