Abrdn Property Income Share Discussion Threads

[essentialinvestor] 26/4/2024 17:58

Well done, i sold another few today, but did not get .53

[cirlbunting1] 26/4/2024 16:24

Out at 53.1.. roughly ~8%. Will keep watching share price as i plan to come back in

[essentialinvestor] 26/4/2024 13:40

This is why I referred to.. charts can
look very different for API very quickly..

I mentioned it 2 weeks ago when a poster gave a cautious TA view on here, as have seen this happen so many times with API - and here we go again.


Tbf my cat gump could have called this one, such is the regularity of occurrence.

[skinny] 26/4/2024 13:37

I think you'll find its thingamegig crossing the thingamebob.


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[markth] 26/4/2024 12:31

Chart looks good, the thingy just crossed the thingumybob. If it gets to 56p sky's the limit.

[spectoacc] 25/4/2024 16:00

Happy to see them taking up an ever greater % of my portfolio. Not sure if they'll make 55p on this run, but they're undoubtedly going there at some point IMO.

[dr biotech] 25/4/2024 15:54

My last buy around 47p has done well. Hopefully that was the moment of maximum despondence and those that didn't want to hang around for the medium term got out. Should have bought more, but always easy in hindsight.

[essentialinvestor] 25/4/2024 15:05

Sold a few more, hopefully an opportunity to buy a few SHED lower down.

An avalanche of cautious posts here since the merger break up, bears overly cautious, at least short term.

Even allowing for an 'ABDN discount', buying under .48 looked low risk - barring some calamity or other


Longer term rates continue to increase, may provide further sector opportunities.

[garbetklb] 25/4/2024 14:39

Would be nice to hear from the company...... Finals were yesterday last year.

[skyship] 25/4/2024 11:56

Indeed. Would have taken on a few more but fully invested. Still, a 10% allocation fair enough!

[essentialinvestor] 25/4/2024 10:51

Keeps getting better.

[essentialinvestor] 24/4/2024 09:38

At my short term target price, so sold a few.

[citytilidie] 23/4/2024 21:48

I think the rise in this and other investment trusts like Shires, API, AEI, VIP and many others looks to be the start of a reduction in the ludicrous discounts that have been ongoing for the last 6-9 months or so. Welcome news at last hopefully. Let’s hope it continues

[essentialinvestor] 23/4/2024 13:53

Indeed, springing to life atm.

[sjl301] 23/4/2024 13:32

Nice to see this holding over 50p. When do we think we’ll hear some news on the planned wind down vote?

[nexusltd] 19/4/2024 18:17

@SpectoAcc. Re:#754. Thank you for your comprehensive reply, & for the guidance on likely costs incurred by API during the merger proposal process. I agree that all the points made in your post do have validity, and go some way to explain Mattioli’s actions. Indeed it is that time of year when WM’s are generating reams of data for their clients, including cost disclosures. The timing of Mattioli’s disposal lofted my eyebrows; considering that they sold down 17.66mn shares immediately after the failed vote, for a value of c. £8.5mn, a figure that hardly moves the needle wrt their cost disclosure docs. It will be interesting to see which major holders remain aboard when the ’24 ar is released in 2025. I agree that if the Mattioli house style is to, top-down, decree the disposal of all names that do not conform to certain criteria irrespective of what bottom-up special situation might be prevailing, then foolish actions are possible. Waiting a few more weeks for the chance of a de-risking wind-up acceptance vote and selling into a, likely, more receptive market would in my mind have been sensible; unless their view is that the wind-up proposal will fail to pass.

On a separate note, I do see value, and have been buying into several of the infra names you have cited, as well as some of the PEIT chips; happy to offer a limit order buy price, and waiting for it to be filled by a seller needing to move on.

[skyship] 19/4/2024 16:59

Day-to-day moves currently irrelevant. As soon as we've had our vote and wind-down is confirmed, these will be back above 50p and we will all be doing GRY calculations and upping our allocations.

API will be a sure way of making a good 2yr return.

[essentialinvestor] 19/4/2024 13:12

Because it's effectively a 'special situation' atm, wider equity volatility is likely to have a disproportionate impact.

And then you have the ABDN discount on top.

[spoole5] 19/4/2024 12:43

If they had 70p worth of cash in the bank this would still trade sub 50p!

[nexusltd] 18/4/2024 18:11

Questions:
1. In light of WM Mattioli Woods’ significant recent disposals, it would seem that they, for one, were dissatisfied with the result of the merger vote. WMs using similar valuation & risk models tend to herd; so who voted against the merger proposal?

2. The ADVFN API community believes that the API wind up vote will succeed & that on a successful vote
a. the share price will move to c. 55p &
b. that on a two year view from a 48p share price @ merger proposal date, the GRY/IRR will be > 15% p.a.

Considering the Mattioli’s position sale, is it their view that the vote will fail?

3. What is the effect of asset sales in Q1 and early Q2, on the balance sheet and earnings?


A stab at question 3), analysis of asset sales effect on balance sheet and earnings.

Assumptions used in the calculations:
1. Cost of sales 2%; thanks @Williamcooper.

2. Exceptional merger expenses GBP2mn; estimate from this community.

3. Only asset sales that are named (location) and have been flagged as “completedR21; are accounted for.
a. Three industrial asset sales; of 27 now 24 in the portfolio.
b. One office asset sale; of 8 now 7 in the portfolio.

4. Where the NIY is not stated it is assumed the NIY=0, i.e. no current revenue as the asset may not be tenanted or may have a rent free period.

5. Loan facilities, due to expire in April 2026.
a. Fully drawn term loan for £85mn; interest 150bps + SONIA, with SONIA capped @ 3.96%.
b. Revolving Credit Facility (RCF) of GBP56.9mn as of 31/12/23; interest 150bps + SONIA.

6. Average of SONIA in Q1: 5.19%

7. No material change in working capital, running expenses, income due to re-gears or void % other than sales of non-income producing assets.

Effect on balance sheet:
Asset disposals total: £29.75mn

Estimated RCF on 17/04/24 = 56.9mn (31/12/23) – 29.75mn (gross sales) + 0.595mn (2% cost of sales) + 2mn (exceptionals) = 29.745mn

Effect on earnings:
Estimated reduction in rental income p.a. = 1.642mn
Estimated interest payable reduction p.a. = 8.446mn (31/12/23) - 6.63 mn (from 17/04/24) = 1.816mn
Change in earnings p.a. = 0.174mn = 0.046pps – no material change to dividend cover.

Stats of interest:
Estimated averaged sale NIY = 5.52%
Estimated weighted cost of borrowing facilities on 17/04/24 = 5.78%

With 85mn term loan not maturing until April 2026, current caped rate of 5.46% is an issue. Until SONIA reduces by > 150bps; running hard, up, on a down escalator.

[essentialinvestor] 18/4/2024 13:47

Nice if we could clise above 50 pence on the bud this week, expectation of Israel retaliation hanging heavy over markets atm.

[spoole5] 18/4/2024 11:38

They need to start buying back shares when the cash rolls in

[pavey ark] 17/4/2024 10:52

I appreciate that not all announced "agreed term" have completed it is highly unlikely that a management as experienced as this would announce a "sale" then have to come back and withdraw the announcement.

I have looked at the disposal announcements and consider that there is a large industrial unit sale about to be confirmed at a 10% premium (this is the unit vacancy/sale that caused the vacancy rate to go from the expected 4% to over 7% so it is a large unit).

The moorland looks like selling at a premium then we have Hagley Rd !!???

The markdown of Hagley rd Dec 2023 to under £20m looked very, very strange to me and I wouldn't be surprised to see it sell at a 15%-20% premium.

I have been in and out of API several times over the past 5 years and back in over the last year with 9 purchases ......I have alway kept an eye on developments here and I have NEVER seen management buy anything other than quality assets ......these assets should now sell well.

EDIT: Mark Blyth is very experienced and competent and has featured in investor presentation....certainly not a junior.

[garbetklb] 17/4/2024 10:30

At least one of the previous disposals was from the deputy; don't know if this means anything.....