Wt Natural Gas Discussion Threads

[chopsy] 14/6/2012 17:46

So, sideways trading for a while now?

[hazl] 07/5/2012 18:36

interesting comment at the end
didn't ever invest but guess it may turn up when you're not expecting it
sorry ferrism didnt reply before didnt notice your response I'm afraid

[rivet] 02/5/2012 14:02

Early to say any others intrested in the natural gas long term play? Will this ETF ever bounce back?

[spacecake] 01/5/2012 10:39

On the turn ?

[brando69] 02/4/2012 18:14

investors in ETFs certainly can...

[cheiftown] 02/4/2012 17:56

Guys...Can a ETF go skint?

[chopsy] 28/3/2012 20:05

wow left the grey zone well behind, now only 11.

[chopsy] 24/2/2012 15:52

So who can recommend some etfs at all time highs that we can short?

[chopsy] 29/12/2011 18:27

relentless, but then the red line goes over the grey band.

[chopsy] 13/9/2011 11:01

Hi, guys, see we are still going down. Forever? Should be a blip soon, don't you think, not that I will try to catch it.

[traderabc] 29/6/2011 10:40

Long term he's got to be right about Ngas.
My main exposure is this one, owning this it's like watching paint dry, anyone have a better idea?





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[ferrism] 23/6/2011 16:16

98 vs expected 90 spells disaster.Never mind, didn't really want the money anyway!

[brando69] 23/6/2011 09:27

I've been doing some work for the St Petersburg Economic Forum...

this might be of interest to those who follow the fortunes of gas...

[ferrism] 23/6/2011 09:16

Thanks for posting that link, traderabc. Especially good of you to point out the relevant part! I do hold Jim Rogers in high regard so perhaps there is a future for natural gas.
Meanwhile the EIA stats last week were pretty bad. Consensus for today's figures shows an expected build of 90Bcf. We shall see.

[ferrism] 08/6/2011 20:12

By the way, analysts expect 77Bcf increase in storage when the EIA stats are released tomorrow. We shall see.

[ferrism] 08/6/2011 19:23

Yes, hazl, there's a huge difference between PHAG and NGAS, UNG, LNGA etc.
PHAG is a proper tracker. It holds real physical Silver. All the gas based ETF's are, in my opinion, a con. They don't stand a chance of replicating the gas price for more than a few days. The best you could say about them is that they sometimes track the direction it follows. Honestly they are no better than that. On most occsions the commodity has to rise dramatically just for the ETF to mark time.
PHAG is an excellent tracker which I have also held successfully. In my opinion you would do well to keep away from the gas ETF's unless you are quite certain of the direction of the underlying commodity over a few days and definitely not during the period when the options have to be swapped!!!! (Unless they happen to be in backwardation, which is so rare you may as well ignore it.)
EZJ and FLYB do sound like a good way of betting against oil. I may research that one further. Thanks for the idea.
All the above is, of course, in my humble opinion and please do your own research!

[hazl] 08/6/2011 14:26

Ive heard that natural gas is ready for a move up but though Ive successfully held phag am wary of etfs these days have bought into ezj and flyb on a bet against oil price

[ferrism] 08/6/2011 09:12

It's moving up because the latest Accuweather update is suggesting higher than average temperatures across most of the US. The assumption being that more electricity will be consumed in order to run cooling systems. That should translate into increased NG consumption. On top of that there has been some favourable coverage of Natural Gas in terms of its long term potential.

[maty] 08/6/2011 09:06

so then why is this moving up....if gas is so plentiful?

[ferrism] 02/6/2011 16:33

Just tell me where all that gas went ..............
Analysts, who are always right, were expecting a build of 105Bcf, not 83! That's quite a margin of error. Meanwhile the chart screams SELL!

[brando69] 27/5/2011 16:50

stirring today

[brando69] 17/5/2011 22:17

if you want a share that's going up at the moment, check out SEA

[chopsy] 14/5/2011 22:00

Not too bad on IG if my foray with NGAS longs is anything to go by.

[eric gardener] 14/5/2011 21:30

You can short some of them through spread betting co's but the spread is massive.