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[club sandwich] 12/1/2020 09:55

"The end result is nothing has been said that isn't in the public domain."

really? so why did the company have to release an RNS about the discussions/offer for 29.9% of the company? You know, the one released the same day as 'mikebrenner' posted? Hmmm?

I really don't know what you're all getting so worked up about anyway. Either Ricketts has let slip price-sensitive info at cosy investor events - deliberately or accidentally, it doesn't much matter which - or he hasn't.

If he hasn't then clearly he has nothing to worry about.

But if he HAS then he is in clear breach of stock market regulations and should suffer the consequences.

One other queation for y'all while you're here...

Ricketts claims that a deal was ready to sign in September. And yet on NYD 2020 on Discord he said the issues ‘as always’ were valuation, IP protection, control etc etc - and on New Year’s Eve on the podcast he talked about the remote-control machines they ‘hope’ to use to control production from HK or London - machines clearly not then ready.

So how could a deal have been ready to sign in September when those fundamental issues weren’t sorted?

Answers on a postcard, pop pickers!

[superg1] 12/1/2020 09:39

Common names like XG, Directa and Talga are in a different market. A market that anyone can enter which VRS are not in yet.

It's always been said, right from the start that multi-layer does give gains for materials in relation to thermal and modulus (flexibility).

The full range which includes strength falls off a cliff re performance. Also as said many times, lateral sizes and defect ratios are important.

There is a massive drop in the price you can sell multi-layer at because it is easy to produce, 100's of companies worldwide do it.

As Warwick Gregor found out after investing in Talga was that their claims were highly misleading. They were claiming 100's of tonnes but the truth is only s all fraction of that figure amounted to few layer, so you have to go through the process of taking out the graphite which I believe Warwick found to be 97% plus graphite, hence he sold up and moved to FGR.

Separation is not an easy skill to master.

Yield is highly important too, VRS have high yield.

There is a market for the waste, but VRS are not in that market as they have high yields. Waste = multi-layer= what XG do, hence it's very cheap.

[luckyorange] 12/1/2020 09:33

An interesting blog and probably insightful too

A first glance at the 2020s – a decade of transition
Published on January 10, 2020

Antonia Romeo
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Permanent Secretary at the Department for International Trade
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The new year brings a new chapter in the UK’s economic history as an independent trading nation. At the Department for International Trade we are looking not just to the new year, but to the next decade and beyond. This long-term thinking is vital to ensure we can help position UK businesses to take advantage of the commercial opportunities available in our evolving world.

Here are some thoughts on what the 2020s may bring and how these global changes could affect global trade.

1. On demographics: The world’s population will become larger, older and more concentrated in low-income countries in the 2020s, creating both challenges and opportunities for trade.
Global population growth will slow and will mainly be driven by lower-income countries.

The world’s population will reach around 8.5 billion by 2030 up from 7.8 billion today. Although that is a substantial increase, it is the smallest decade-long rise since the 1960s. Moreover, 80% of this growth will come from countries with per capita incomes of less than $4000. Some of these lower-income countries could capitalise on their demographic boom and become new sources of trade growth in the 2020s, but many more are likely to fall short of their potential due to gaps in education, infrastructure and employment opportunities. As a result, global population growth is likely to provide less of a boost to global trade in the 2020s than in the past.

The world will grow older more quickly, and populations in higher-income countries will begin to plateau or even decline.

By 2030, there will be 1 billion people on the planet over the age of 65. This grey billion will have different consumption preferences to the rest of society, creating new opportunities for trade in healthcare and leisure services. But ageing societies will also face economic headwinds that could hold back trade. As countries age and their populations decline, a shrinking workforce must shoulder the welfare costs of a growing number of senior citizens. This leaves less disposable income for consumption and trade. 32 countries will see their populations shrink this decade (including Germany, Russia, Korea, and Japan) and several others - most notably China - will see their populations peak around 2030.

As countries reach turning points in their demographic cycles, shifts in demand and comparative advantage could create more opportunities for trade.

Countries with shrinking workforces and ageing populations – like Japan - have an incentive to automate production and specialise in capital-intensive technologies while countries with abundant sources of youthful labour – like Indonesia – have scope to become low cost production hubs. In regions where neighbouring countries exhibit these complementary trends (as in Asia) there is a strong incentive to agree new trade arrangements and deepen cross-border value chains.

2. On commodities: Demand for the world’s commodities will rise, but trade patterns will change as technology disrupts, consumer tastes evolve, and climate change intensifies.
The 2020s will see further shifts in global energy trade that will reshape economic interests in the Middle East and Africa.

Global energy demand will continue to rise in the 2020s, driven by economic growth in the East. But unless this demand is met by a rapid expansion in renewable energy, Asian markets will find themselves more reliant on imports of fossil fuels from the Middle East and Africa. By contrast, the tech-driven shale revolution in the United States will shift the US to becoming a major energy exporter this decade, which will loosen its energy trade ties with the same regions.

As consumer tastes shift to greener technologies and the world electrifies, trade in fossil fuels is likely to be slowly substituted for other minerals (such as cobalt and lithium).

These will power the batteries and industries of tomorrow. Regions with large mineral deposits and capacity to export them - such as South America and Africa - stand to benefit from this transition, while high-cost and high-emission fossil fuel exporters will face a more difficult decade ahead.

Climate change will generate disparate climatic impacts across the world, which will affect each country’s ability to produce food.

Some countries in the higher latitudes could benefit from more favourable growing conditions, which could create new opportunities to export. But many more countries in the tropics are likely to experience sporadic crop failures – increasing their reliance on food imports and the risk that some countries could impose trade restrictions to safeguard domestic supplies.

3. On technology: New innovations will drive global productivity growth, reshape trade patterns, and be a growing source of international competition between countries.
The 2020s will see a tech race and significant technological progress.

Many promising new technologies will come to market this decade, creating new opportunities for trade and economic growth. Developments in machine learning and biotech promise to help automate time consuming tasks and extend the life of the workforce, while new consumer technologies – such as 5G and the Internet of Things – will reshape consumption patterns. This digital revolution, underpinned by a surge in cross-border data flows, will redefine global trading patterns. The race to lead the world in these new technologies – particularly between the US and China - is fierce and will be a major source of trade tension over the next decade.

But the 2030s promise even bigger technological leaps forward.

AI, quantum computing, autonomous vehicles, and many other transformative technologies are on the horizon. These are longer-term bets that have the potential to radically reshape the structure of our economies in the 2030s, changing the very nature of how we interact, think, shop, work, and do business. Trade is the highway on which these new technologies will spread around the world and the UK is investing heavily now to ensure we will be globally competitive in these new technologies and will lead the world in how to regulate them for the benefit of society.

The future offers both immense opportunity and challenges for the UK as an independent trading nation. We will monitor global developments closely and respond quickly to the evolving world to ensure we can support UK businesses in the best possible way. It promises to be an exciting decade.

@AntoniaRomeoUK

[superg1] 12/1/2020 09:24

Anyway back to VRS

The ranting and raving in recent days has come to nothing. The end result is nothing has been said that isn't in the public domain.

The main point seems to be China the 2nd signing. Quite Cleary the Nomad didn't deem the signing as requiring an RNS. It was deemed not to be price sensitive. Hence it was out into the year end results.

The details were found and posted, VRS were well aware it was found, so was the nomad.

[luckyorange] 12/1/2020 09:22

The possible shorts recall that was posted on twitter I have no evidence of but may have some substance due to the noisiness and pathetic attempts to undermine Neill the company and respected posters.

Keeping my eye on what the government is up to to kick start business and infrastructure at the moment, others would be well advised to as well . Maybe good times are coming at last

[jointer13] 12/1/2020 09:17

3D-printed graphene for bone reconstruction.

Reconstruction of bone defects with efficient restoration of tissue morphology and functionality is a critical medical challenge. Progresses in 3D printing technologies offer new opportunities for precise bone architecture reproduction during scaffolds construction. At the same time, biomaterials are being designed and produced to achieve the desired functional, mechanical and supportive features and to guide cell behavior in vivo. Latest progress in biomaterials research make the graphene family in the spotlight for their excellent bone regeneration and mechanical properties. Graphene, graphene oxide and reduced graphene oxide are also 3D printable to obtain patient-tailored scaffolds with controlled feature sizes in the mesoscopic range. In this review, the current studies on 3D-printed graphene are discussed, focusing on the osteogenic properties and on technologies developed for graphene 3D printing. The multiple benefits achievable by a proper design of graphene surface as well as the concerns on their biocompatibility are also highlighted. We believe that this overview of the latest progress and trends will provide the basis for the future improvement of implantable graphene bones.

[davemac3] 12/1/2020 09:06

Lucky, you said you were "told" that information and posted as though you believed it and got 11 thumbs up, LOL

[jointer13] 12/1/2020 08:56

I reckon you're right there lucky.

karma...bring it on.!

[luckyorange] 12/1/2020 08:54

I read it somewhere Dave and didn't believe it either you know what the net is like and I like to evidence things, agree with you on your post and would be nice to know though.

[luckyorange] 12/1/2020 08:51

The more you dig the more disgusted you will be about him jointer, best stop now no imagination required as to the depths that he will sink to and those that join in with him are worse , dregs and scum.

Karma usually sorts people like that out and constant stress isn't good for your longevity have a lovely day.

[davemac3] 12/1/2020 08:45

I take an interest in VRS's process to make graphene so was intrigued by post 88869. Lucky, who told you that information? 1) I think that would be commercially sensitive
2) I don't believe it.

[luckyorange] 12/1/2020 08:44

Thinking about predators, my interpretation would be that on shares they would be those that ruthlessly exploit others, not only shorters but pump and dumpers too.

Those that continuously call it down whilst selling out would be ? just plain stupid?

Definitely beyond my comprehension anyway, but that is not unusual on AIM.

[forestfred] 12/1/2020 06:23

Hi Sandbag
Cheers
Helpful post how do you subscribe for these magazines
Who do you need to contact for subscription
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[graphenejen] 12/1/2020 01:35

Sandbag: Your post 88899 re. Readly. Yes, brilliant. I subscribed on your last recommendation, specifically to replace my Shares subscription as it was cheaper (though it doesn't include additional benefits such as access to websites which I didn't want anyway). Lots of back issues included for most magazines too. Many thanks, Jen.

[festario] 12/1/2020 01:10

Ha ha... you tell him, it seems like there's only you and one other upset with him. There's reasons for everything in this world.

[simon templer junior] 12/1/2020 00:29

28 Reasons Why I'm Holding Onto My VRS Shares