Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[schmally] 15/11/2019 09:25

Jas - Surely Ramping Ricketts would have sold his shares already after his uber ramp to £1.80 if he knew there was no substance to the business and it was all hype. Are you suggesting he's waiting for the price to crash before executing his cunning criminal master plan and selling his shares at a fraction of their historic value.

Is his name Baldrick by any chance?

[luckyorange] 15/11/2019 09:21

In a positive mood then lovat 😂

Only the final box tick with Beijing and everyone will feel more comfortable but expect the textiles to be moving forward too. Aecom is worldwide so don't know what they have planned but they are pushing the arch to be fair, they seem to be very proud and bullish about it.

[ad631] 15/11/2019 09:18

Quite right johnv. I just want my £2.60 :)

[jas44] 15/11/2019 09:18

Ramping Ricketts is going to have his comeuppance some day soon when the share price crashes and the blind cult who have poured every last penny into this ridiculously pumped up stock lose huge amounts of money.

Not going to be a pretty picture. But Ramping Ricketts will be ok after selling his shares and buying a log burner.

[lovat scout] 15/11/2019 09:06

JV - which is helped greatly by the well tested mantra of not investing more in any single holding than you can afford to lose......

AIMHO etc

[johnveals] 15/11/2019 09:01

AD631 - the psychology of investing and controlling one’s emotions.

[ad631] 15/11/2019 08:41

When I first invested in VRS 2+ years ago there was far more risk and yet I was far less apprehensive of outcomes than now when we are on the cusp of revenue commercialisation / going global. Time to chill methinks :)

[loglorry1] 15/11/2019 08:37

@1teepee won't Neill have to sell some graphene first? Won't he have to sell up to 15% of VRS for CASH into a UK bank account to BIGT?

There you go again - making stuff up that you would like to happen rather than facing reality.

[andy] 15/11/2019 08:33

Off topic


Club Sandwich,


Did you see Ruja's brother has pleaded guilty in the US?


He could get 90 years!

[luckyorange] 15/11/2019 08:32

Two places Peter, one is on s/b providers platforms and the other is 'noise' from detractors .

[pshevlin] 15/11/2019 08:30

"Shorts closing / trying to get out AD"
where are you seeing that lucky/

[rainbow23] 15/11/2019 08:15

Ricketts looking more foolish by the day as his bigt fantasy evaporates. Credibility zero.

[jointer13] 15/11/2019 08:13

its all good ad631...its nice to watch it developing.

[luckyorange] 15/11/2019 08:10

Shorts closing / trying to get out AD.

[jointer13] 15/11/2019 08:10

exactly lucky...we have set the standard...and they don't like it...tough!!!!

[ad631] 15/11/2019 08:08

Just hope this RNS 'doldrums' ends with the positive news most of us hope for. I sense that the sentiment scales are finely balanced.

[luckyorange] 15/11/2019 08:03

Like a pantomime jointer , kids stuff really. If you said standards don't matter they would be giving an 'oh yes the do' but because VRS has set the standard 'oh no they don't'

Maybe I should do some shorting comments on other shares of course , need to spend some time creating 'new' avatars first though, anything else on the checklist?

[jointer13] 15/11/2019 07:51

ive posted this earlier.

quality... consistency...commercial scale...unique.

i see some are playing down the importance of having graphene materials verified, quite unbelieveable really.

I would say its very important.

plenty of info out there.

there is a lot of fake graphene out there...poor quality material.

Imagine a world in which antibiotics could be sold by anybody, and were not subject to quality standards and regulations. Many people would be afraid to use them because of the potential side effects, or because they had no faith that they would work, with potentially fatal consequences.

"seems that the high-profile scientific discoveries, technical breakthroughs and heavy investment in graphene have created a Wild West for business opportunists: the study shows that some producers are labelling black powders that mostly contain cheap graphite as graphene, and selling them for top dollar."

In a review of material specification sheets for 60 graphene products, The Graphene Council found that more than 45 different material characteristics were listed, but not one of them was common to all of the materials claiming to be graphene. In fact, less than 75% of the products reviewed shared a common listed specification.

"This makes it impossible for a buyer to compare materials from different suppliers without actually testing each sample, and a full graphene sample characterization by a world-class lab costs approximately $12-15,000 - per sample!"

"Successful commercialisation of graphene materials requires not only the ability to produce graphene to a declared specification, but to be able to do so at a commercial scale. It is nearly impossible for a graphene customer to verify the type of material they are receiving without going through an expensive and time-consuming process of having sample materials fully characterised by a laboratory that has the equipment and expertise to test graphene."

Versarien plc (AIM: VRS), the advanced materials engineering group, is pleased to announce that the Company is the first graphene company in the world to successfully complete the Graphene Council's "Verified Graphene Producer" programme (the "Programme").

The US-based Graphene Council's Programme is an independent, third party verification system that involves a physical inspection of the production facilities, a review of the entire production process, a random sampling of product material and rigorous characterisation and testing by a leading, international materials laboratory. The Programme is based on the most recent developments in globally recognised graphene standards, surveys of graphene producers, researchers and users, as well as analysis of commercially available graphene products.

The Graphene Council have designed the Programme to be an important step in providing customers and end-users with a degree of confidence, that has not existed before, that they are sourcing material from a reputable supplier, bringing transparency and clarity to a rapidly changing and opaque market for graphene materials.

"This is a huge validation of our technology and will enable our partners and potential customers to have confidence that the graphene we produce meets globally accepted standards."

this makes us quite unique.

we know what we have... and so do a lot of others.

orders ready to come...as per rns's.

and you know what...we have got to this stage of our development quite rapidly.

quite amazing really.

don't listen to the bashers.

we are right at the forefront of the graphene revolution

[luckyorange] 15/11/2019 07:50

supernum working with the dark side now? Boy you can hold a grudge fair do's , bitter too, find the quote yourself , others know exactly where it came from!

[jointer13] 15/11/2019 07:48

i see the naysayers saying standards don't matter...then trying to compare vrs to others that don't have there materials verified...you cannot compare vrs to them.
its all about the quality.

its well known that most so called graphene is fake...selling black powders as graphene.

as I say...its all about the quality.

[1teepee] 15/11/2019 07:14

Who apart from versarien is making commercial quantities of graphene?

[club sandwich] 15/11/2019 07:11

"Revenue is coming in from test orders of graphene, and the more traditional subsidiaries (AAC Cyroma, Total Carbide and Versarien Technologies Ltd) are contributing positively." Nonsense. The last figures very clearly showed that revenue had barely grown year-on-year, with total revenues still sub-£10m. 2D materials makes up an embarrassingly tiny proportion of that £10m for an alleged world leader.