Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[schmally] 14/11/2019 14:39

Loggy,

Your assumption that VRS should quote transparent costs, simply illustrates that you view them as a commodity supplier. They aren't and won't be for some while.

You don't seem to be able to grasp that VRS don't just provide the material, they provide added value services in relation to how materials should be used or incorporated into end products and provide expertise to help clients formulate the best mix of materials, testing and analysis, as well as being involved higher up the supply chain for certain applications and products, such as polygrene.

Any fees/charges they negotiate will price in the added value of these additional services and expertise, plus ongoing customer support. By comparing this to graphene producers who simply provide containers of a specific material at £x per kilo, displays a high degree of ignorance. It's the huge variation in services and the bespoking of the material to suit end products that will dictate pricing. not simply the amount of material.

[senden11] 14/11/2019 14:38

pshevlin, "class", "intellect", call it what you like, but you are certainly confirming yours on a minute by minute basis.

[luckyorange] 14/11/2019 14:36

Yes pshevlin, all about class

This is class

[rheumking] 14/11/2019 14:21

Schmally
Hats off to you for your ongoing battle with the trolls who are a bunch of parasites it has to be said .
I see the arches as providing a source of profit probably not huge initially but further international orders should follow.
More important to my mind is demonstration of successful product with a large construction company meaning we will be the go to guys for future projects which will be more lucrative. All about laying the foundations as it were .

[spike_1] 14/11/2019 14:16

Millenium sketch - never seen it before - made my day - thanks lucky . ;0)

[luckyorange] 14/11/2019 14:07

Identify yourself, too easy, I am the ignorant serf of course.



The Two Ronnies and Stephen Fry doing the class sketch, BBC new year's millennium eve 1999

[festario] 14/11/2019 14:06

Grouchy, I thought there was a punchline coming... but no.

[1teepee] 14/11/2019 14:05

Stop bullying fest and club. Or you might have to get off that big horse

[schmally] 14/11/2019 14:04

Careful you don't fall off your soapbox pshelvin. We don't want you hurting yourself.

[ewads] 14/11/2019 13:58

Many a true word..............

[pshevlin] 14/11/2019 13:55

Stick to the cartoons Roger, they don't require the same literary merit ;-)

[metis20] 14/11/2019 13:52

loglorry1 -



and then logical application of the data

(ps - I am not currently invested in VRS nor am I shorting VRS)

[rogerthegrouch] 14/11/2019 13:47

Fest and Club went to the AGM…

They started arguing about who was the most hated person in the room. Fest had a bet (obviously) that he, himself was the most hated.

Club said “I’m not having that! Sure, you are a narcissist, but what about all that trolling I’ve done over the last 12 months, Ricketts this Ricketts that, I’ll be the most hated for sure!”-

Shelvin bursts through the doors... “Wait a minute chaps, I’m not only detestable and irrelevant on the BBs, but I used to be a Union Rep remember! I’ve gotta be the most hated”

They argued throughout, whilst everyone else sat down and enjoyed the AGM.

[metis20] 14/11/2019 13:38

Anyone know the source for this table and what year it was published (indicative prices for different layers of graphene) - the tweet was October 2018

[pshevlin] 14/11/2019 13:24

See you there Fest (if I still hold any shares that is). Who knows I mught have twice as many by then by reinvesting from IOF.

[loglorry1] 14/11/2019 13:24

"Versarien's Nanene and GNP-HP are very effective as additives (for example little in the way of edge defects, and composed of relatively few layers of graphene) but are relatively expensive to produce. Prices for them must be at the top end of what is a very wide price spectrum. Presumably those many VRS collaborators will also be trialling cheaper versions of what the manufacturers are pleased to call "graphene"."


Any evidence for any of this or is it just cos VRS told you? Did you expect VRS to say anything other than that?

Even if it is a superior product priced at the top end how much would that be? Maybe 2x ave price? $100/kg?


That puts 3T production at $300k before any costs.

[festario] 14/11/2019 13:20

Dunno, Clubbie is his own man.In other news, someone just paid a premium for 40,000 shares.

[loglorry1] 14/11/2019 13:12

Since you want to acause me of telling lies can you actually point any out?

I posted a chart if Graphene prices from Fullerex. Are they liars?

[loglorry1] 14/11/2019 13:09

Wow hundreds of words and no answer. How much per kg @schmally?

Clue: the answer is a number?

[festario] 14/11/2019 13:05

Sage words as always, O great Scrutable.

[ny boy] 14/11/2019 13:02

Whilst this is collaborating sub 100p, on the move again, buyers flocking to (FOXT)to play the c. London market recovery and importantly NO DEBT, a rare things these days