Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[loglorry1] 14/11/2019 10:23

@schmally you come across as incredibly naive. So you are basing your faith that there are good product margins on the arch product based on comments you heard at an investor presentation?

You think that VRS would never go ahead with AECOM unless there were huge profits to be had. LOL you are classic. Keep this coming please, please.

OMG! This is brilliant stuff.

You don't think it is a tiny bit odd that they don't give any numbers but instead just say "don't worry all on track - margins are great".

How do you explain the Fullerex chart I posted for prices when you think that these levels could never commercially support the Arch project.

[schmally] 14/11/2019 10:23

Club/PShelvin, You're both clearly far too intelligent for most of us on this board, so as a suggestion, perhaps you could set up a new "VRS Philosopher" thread, where you can continue to quote the brightest minds from human history and discuss the intellectual failings of the rest of us. You won't then need to speak down to us sad fools from up high, unless of course that's how you get your kicks, shouting from your soap boxes.

[luckyorange] 14/11/2019 10:08

Anything about VRS that will enlighten us? No? Thought so !

[pshevlin] 14/11/2019 10:05

Actually my wife fully agrees with everything I say on here, she just doesn't see the point of communicating it to all and sundry. I on the other hand cannot resist a challenge when I see ill informed statements being thrown around as if evry opinion was as relevent as any other. Relativism has been the curse of the last 20 years.
As to those who think that politics should be kept off the board I would only add that the (ill informed) decision made to leave the EU has caused me significant problems and intrudes into EVERY aspect of my life so I do not see why the perpetrators should not have it enter every aspect of theirs.
One more thing. If people do not wish to be put down then they should not make silly statements. (except in jest).

[club sandwich] 14/11/2019 10:01

pshevlin - just another Daily Heil reader who had poison dripped into his mind day after day by Dacre for 20 years and has no conception of just how unhinged and detached from reality he really ia...

[luckyorange] 14/11/2019 09:56

Why the put down pshevlin, is that your MO?

You will just need to accept that you are far more intelligent and knowledgeable than the people you choose to speak to and any view other than your own is totally wrong.... until your wife puts you in your place and brings you back to reality 😁

Have you ever added anything to the combined knowledge regarding VRS on here or don't you understand that either?

[pshevlin] 14/11/2019 09:43

Actually I will shut up now. Very boring.

[pshevlin] 14/11/2019 09:39

Thus spake Zarathustra! (Oh sorry I meant a reader of nothing much more than the Daily Mail)

[1teepee] 14/11/2019 09:37

Sometimes , summing everything up into one word gives a clearer description

[luckyorange] 14/11/2019 09:37

Shut up pshevlin , do you understand that?

[1teepee] 14/11/2019 09:36

I thought roger the grouch said we had a pennant breakout again? What happened there

[schmally] 14/11/2019 09:36

Loggy, In an investors meeting, it was quoted that VRS profit margins can be as high as 90%+ for small low volume high quality orders and that margins obviously decrease for the higher volume whilst still being "very high".

Profit margins were also expected to stay very high until graphene becomes a commoditised product, which won't be for a few years. The team at VRS also made it clear that where cost reductions or efficiency gains for the end users are very high, then a premium can also be charged whilst still ensuring financial viability and benefits for all parties in the supply chain.

The cost efficiencies for the full product implementation lifecycle for the arch are significant. How much do you think it costs for 10 men with machinery fitting existing arches over multiple shifts, whilst having to close lines with all the additional logistical, H&S costs, etc, compared to 2 men fitting the new arch in one shift, with significant less disruption and lower logistical costs. For each arch the cost savings would be huge, so the product can demand a significant premium profit margin price compared to it's development cost whilst still offering rail operators compelling cost savings.

It's obvious that the prices you quote would simply not make it worthwhile for VRS to bother with this type of product. The fact they are progressing matters and getting ready for roll out clearly illustrates their confidence in profit margins and financial benefit.

You're arguments are getting lazier and more desperate by the day.

[pshevlin] 14/11/2019 09:34

Another erudite statement.

[1teepee] 14/11/2019 09:33

hTTps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neom

[1teepee] 14/11/2019 09:30

Only joking, Blair was a tit

[pshevlin] 14/11/2019 09:27

"Gorra laugh at stuff like that from some of those who got outvoted"
On a subject that the vast majority of the population simply do not understand. You might as well have had a vote about the relative importance to western thought of either Kierkegaard or Husserl.

[forestfred] 14/11/2019 09:20

Loglorry

Why does anyone even need to reply or debate with you When you ask questions on this message board.

This is for Vrs investors and potential investors surely .

Do You have any genuine interest in Versarien as a investor ?

You have never mentioned a positive element to Versarien and it’s progress .

It seems your objective is for your own gain and one sided .

What is the benefit of Sharing Research with you ??.
Ff

[schmally] 14/11/2019 09:19

Loggy, did you get out of bed the wrong side? Reading your posts and imagining your desperation is more than satisfying enough for me.

You asked a question about price and details on that subject were included in a presentation posted on numerous occasions on here. If you genuinely want to know potential cost estimates (It's ok, we know you don't really care) and you can't be bothered to listen or read the information available, then that just displays how lazy you are. If you are genuinely so ignorant of the facts, then a little more humility would be most welcome.

1 hour detention after school for not doing your homework.

[rickyl1] 14/11/2019 09:17

Not the right place for Brexit talk. You look a bit sad and lonely doing that on a company's BB.

[superg1] 14/11/2019 09:15

From a a director at Aecom (for those that have heard of Aecom).

The Nano-enabled Construction Materials

By 2025, more than 50 percent of building materials are expected to contain nanomaterials as more people take benefit of these lighter, stronger, and more energy efficient materials.

[loglorry1] 14/11/2019 09:13

@metis20 We don't know why there are no sales. I keep asking but @schmally and others say its because we need to wait a bit longer (they've been saying that literally for years). It's a proposition that is impossible to refute though because nobody can say sales will never arrive.

I did postulate some other reasons but they didn't seem to like them.

It's pretty clear that VRS is getting left miles behind. NanoXplore are building a 10,000 tonne a year facility. They have raised the money for this and it is fully funded. They realise it's a commodity market it seems. Meanwhile VRS is getting excited about test orders for a few Kg.

[club sandwich] 14/11/2019 09:10

"Gorra laugh at stuff like that from some of those who got outvoted"

if you maintain that the 2016 result is an accurate reflction of this country's view then you must agree that treason and Russian collusion is a good thing. Which makes you a traitor too.

Funny how all you Little Engalnders who want to get back to Great Britain are so relaxed about collusion with one of this country's oldest and most bitter enemies.

[dolores123] 14/11/2019 09:09

What price will Bigt have to subscribe for 15% of VRS? I think less than 200p would be too cheap.

[metis20] 14/11/2019 09:08

Any evidence that collaborations are not progressing to significant orders because the prices of nanene and/or GNP-HP/ polygrene are currently too high?