Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[loglorry1] 12/10/2019 17:22

Can anyone name a single AIM company that has inked a major manufacturing deal with China, in the past, that has transformed their share price in a positive way?

Hundreds bang on about how they'll make it in China or are about to get large Chinese investors paying premiums. As far as I can tell it's always all talk.

[aquaesulis01] 12/10/2019 17:18

So best thing to do is wait and see; first time I have ever agreed with a Motley Fool article because as he says "Versarien is still in its early stages of growth, and the company has a long way to go before it is self-sustaining. In the meantime, it will rely on third parties to provide the funding to keep the lights on. Any major setback either with the firm’s own growth plans or with a US-China trade deal might inspire backers to pull funding. That could be a big headache for the group.

That being said, if the company does manage to ink a manufacturing and distribution agreement for graphene in China, then the sky could be the limit for Versarian."

[loglorry1] 12/10/2019 17:11

"The fact that DIT employees are telling us they are involved in discussions with BIGT about contracts with VRS means a lot more."

This tells you nothing of the scale or structure of any potential deal. I've little faith that Matt Walker would spot something fishy anyway. He seemed happy to support Neill when he was tweeting smiling pictures practically hugging Patrick Abbott who had to be fired weeks later when it transpired he was indited on securities fraud charges. #CRUSH

[aquaesulis01] 12/10/2019 16:50

There are some sad bstards on here wasting away their weekend by posting negative comments about a company they have no financial interest in (there being no IIs to borrow shares from and short with). What does it matter whether you can find the CIGIU offices outside Beijing, the important thing is the Chinese Govt know how to contact the people they want to talk to as VRS have discovered?

[schmally] 12/10/2019 16:38

No I mean if you want to accuse him of something just make it clear. Stop beating around the bush with tenuous innuendo. Just because BIGT don’t have the type of electronic footprint and contact points you would like to see, it means absolutely nothing. The fact that DIT employees are telling us they are involved in discussions with BIGT about contracts with VRS means a lot more. There is nothing to question unless of course you are suggesting Matt is a liar and part of some elaborate fraud. Get real you fool

[loglorry1] 12/10/2019 16:16

"I had evidence of fraud I would and have challenged fraudsters directly"

You mean like when I asked Neill directly for any of the 17 claimed international offices of CIGIU and specifically the address of the London office? He replied "I could tell you but I won't as I'm too busy" then went on tweeting about '80 songs.

[bbmsionlypostafter] 12/10/2019 16:13

Struggling to see why one platform is different from another when it comes to publishing libel. Why do you think publishing LM's article on Shareprophets is not risking being sued for libel while publishing it on Twitter is?

Don't think sending a private email counts as libel, I think a third party must be involved - the audience, for want of a better description.

Regardless of what platform, whether it's libel or not, etc, etc, NR/VRS could blow away all their critics & all these questions by addressing the questions repeatedly raised here by LM & others. You've got to ask yourself, why won't he do that?


Tim Kempster Retweeted Neill Ricketts
Evasive as ever Neill. Any chance you or @MattWal79512221 can provide even just the London address of CIGUI? #VRS

Neill Ricketts Retweeted Tim Kempster
Hi Tim, sorry no. Not because we can't but because we just don't want to. I spend my valuable time on meaningful things. Carry on the research you're doing a great job. :

[loglorry1] 12/10/2019 16:09

@schmally we bought the Irish bonds at 37p. They are now 208p having paid 13.375p coupon each and every year for the past 11 years and counting.

I wish all my investments were this bad!

[schmally] 12/10/2019 15:51

Now you’re just displaying your idiocy. Lucien could easily make allegations that Neill is a liar and responsible for fraudulent behaviour directly on Twitter or via email, but you know why he would never do that of course. Because he has absolutely zero evidence of any lies or fraud.

[bbmsionlypostafter] 12/10/2019 14:57

LOLS, OK.

When you say "personally" does that mean he has to physically stand in front of NR & read this article?

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.

[laginaneil] 12/10/2019 14:55

Hello Hattie,

I guess you are talking tongue in cheek.

I heard the only other company with a government man was Rolls Royce,

so we are in good company !

[schmally] 12/10/2019 14:50

No, he is doing what him and his gang always does. Indirectly make accusations via inference and innuendo because it’s easier to defend than a direct accusation. If I believed I had evidence of fraud I would and have challenged fraudsters directly either personally Or via the FCA. Lucian will never make a direct accusation against Neill because he knows it would be baseless and libel. He’s spineless like the rest of his minions

[hattie1] 12/10/2019 14:38

Think the only huge red flag will be the China 🇨🇳... long term holders will be rewarded

[bbmsionlypostafter] 12/10/2019 14:36

schmally
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I’d call them a list of baseless assumptions rather than accusations. However if he wants to accuse Neill and Matt of being liars and therefore by extension guilty of fraud. I suggest he should make that accusation directly to them rather than beating around the bush on a tin pot mug investor website. He won’t of course, because he knows that would be libel.

Isn't that what he has just done?

I expect NR, VRS & Matt will be consulting m'learned friends come Monday morning & tweeting about it shortly afterwards.

[alchemy] 12/10/2019 14:17

Good point . (Softly , even though I'm feeling jaundiced about our Government right now).

[hattie1] 12/10/2019 14:08

How many “graphene “ companies in China 🇨🇳.... and after due diligence they come to Versarien....

[hattie1] 12/10/2019 14:08

Remind me ... are there any other graphene companies that have two HM GOVERNMENT Secondees ?.....

[dgduncan] 12/10/2019 13:58

Quote from a VRS RNS :

"Versarien became the first company in the world to complete the US Graphene Council's 'Verified Graphene Producer' programme validating our technology to customers and collaborators"

Seems clear to me.

[woodpeckers] 12/10/2019 13:53

Having listened again to the Graphene Council webinar, one of our main USPs is that we are a #onestopsolution.

We are the only Graphene Council verified producer, we can produce at commercial scale and we have links with academia like no other graphene producer.

Neill has always talked about our uni links being important but until now I thought he meant for future research in to other 2D materials...now it means more...without them we can't help customers work out how to put it in to their products and without that, many probably won't risk getting involved at this stage.

The webinar made it clearer just why ground breaking technologies take so long to get to market...it's not just a question of placing an order, companies need to be reassured that they can put it into their products and it will work... hence why these companies selling 'little bottles of fairydust' probably won't get repeat orders...
it's tempting to be glad about that but we need graphene to get good feedback, not bad, more people will investigate it's uses once we get a few big companies like AECOM showing just how excited they are by the end results.

More sure than ever that Neill and the gang are treading the right path.... You'd almost think they had a plan!

[1teepee] 12/10/2019 13:37

It's 6000 in China and 300 in the rest of the world

[schmally] 12/10/2019 13:29

I’d call them a list of baseless assumptions rather than accusations. However if he wants to accuse Neill and Matt of being liars and therefore by extension guilty of fraud. I suggest he should make that accusation directly to them rather than beating around the bush on a tin pot mug investor website. He won’t of course, because he knows that would be libel.

[1teepee] 12/10/2019 13:08

I wonder why Terrance said Graphene that is 11 to 20 layer is best for composites I thought superg said after 10 layers performance falls off a cliff

[schmally] 12/10/2019 13:07

I hardly think highlighting Loggy’s chequered history to give posters a clear understanding about his poor judgement is an attack. Calling Neill, Matt and the rest of the team liars and frauds is however, a clear unjustifiable attack with no facts to back it up. It’s unacceptable to question someone’s honesty without any evidence of deception. Assuming someone is a liar just because what they say doesn’t suit your agenda is not sufficient I’m sure you’ll agree.