Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[forestfred] 17/5/2019 19:34

Scrutable
I watch this time and time again never get bored its amazing and happening as we speak
Great post ff

[woodpeckers] 17/5/2019 18:07

Neill on twitter ...Humbling experience @MelloEventsUK picking up awards for best CEO, best cfo for Chris and most share holder friendly and focussed

What a team!

[1teepee] 17/5/2019 17:16

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcx-btcle4

[1teepee] 17/5/2019 17:16

Here is a more up to date one. If you haven't filtered

[alchemy] 17/5/2019 16:47

Dangerous . Very. Ten upticks even more so. MP s used to be people saying thank you after a career. Valedictory contribution . An informed Civil Service also essential .

[evergreen8] 17/5/2019 16:05

Scrutable - Surprised at the suggestion that Li-Ion batteries are viewed to be the long term solution when so many advantages have been identified for dry Li-C.
The impact for VRS would be better with Li-C but there would still be significant demand in the EV sector for VRS product even if Li-ion became the long term standard.

[fireball xl5] 17/5/2019 16:02

Scrutable 👏👏👏👏

[grabster] 17/5/2019 15:19

evergreen8 (post 68892) -

That article appears to regard lithium-ion as the ongoing favourite battery technology. Several other articles looking at battery and supercapacitor development have tended to regard lithium-ion as a transient technology that will be replaced.

With demand so high now, the sheer number of scientists involved in pursuit of alternatives makes it a fascinating area. ;-)

[ellissj] 17/5/2019 14:38

The evidence that air pollution harms human health is growing, and in conditions not previously linked to it. Another report published today on the subject. Surely gaining traction and becoming a major factor in pushing the trend towards EVs sooner rather than later. Aimo best ellis

Revealed: air pollution may be damaging 'every organ in the body’

'Exclusive: Comprehensive analysis finds harm from head to toe, including dementia, heart and lung disease, fertility problems and reduced intelligence.'

Damian Carrington
Environment editor

Fri 17 May 2019 

Air pollution may be damaging every organ and virtually every cell in the human body, according to a comprehensive new global review.

The research shows head-to-toe harm, from heart and lung disease to diabetes and dementia, and from liver problems and bladder cancer to brittle bones and damaged skin. Fertility, foetuses and children are also affected by toxic air, the review found.

The systemic damage is the result of pollutants causing inflammation that then floods through the body and ultrafine particles being carried around the body by the bloodstream.

Air pollution is a “public health emergency”, according to the World Health Organization, with more than 90% of the global population enduring toxic outdoor air. New analysis indicates 8.8m early deaths each year – double earlier estimates – making air pollution a bigger killer than tobacco smoking.

But the impact of different pollutants on many ailments remains to be established, suggesting well-known heart and lung damage is only “the tip of the iceberg”.

“Air pollution can harm acutely, as well as chronically, potentially affecting every organ in the body,” conclude the scientists from the Forum of International Respiratory Societies in the two review papers, published in the journal Chest. “Ultrafine particles pass through the [lungs], are readily picked up by cells, and carried via the bloodstream to expose virtually all cells in the body.”

Prof Dean Schraufnagel, at the University of Illinois at Chicago and who led the reviews, said: “I wouldn’t be surprised if almost every organ was affected. If something is missing [from the review] it is probably because there was no research yet.”

The review represents “very strong science”, said Dr Maria Neira, WHO director of public and environmental health: “It adds to the very heavy evidence we have already. There are more than 70,000 scientific papers to demonstrate that air pollution is affecting our health.”

She said she expected even more impacts of air pollution to be shown by future research: “Issues like Parkinson’s or autism, for which there is some evidence but maybe not the very strong linkages, that evidence is coming now.....”

[1teepee] 17/5/2019 14:22

hTTps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcx-btcle4This is a more recent Tony Seba presentation

[woodpeckers] 17/5/2019 13:55

evergreen, thanks for your post, very interesting..."Last year, the automotive industry churned out more than 2 million hybrids and electric vehicles, or about 2% of the total global automobile market.
Within six years, that figure is expected to rise to 15%, as moving electrons gradually supplant hydrocarbons as the auto industry's chief power source."

According to Tony Seba (in that video I posted earlier), it could happen even faster than that (and he has been right with his predictions so far...

"By 2025 everything that moves, (new vehicle) will be electric."

[evergreen8] 17/5/2019 13:36

Fireball - That is the point I was making. As the only CERTIFIED large scale producer of high quality FLG, irrespective of who the battery manufacturers may be for the best material and a reliable continuity of supply all roads lead to VRS.

[rogerbridge] 17/5/2019 13:25

Now that could make us a very happy bunch of investors.

[fireball xl5] 17/5/2019 13:12

Or who will supply the core elements

[evergreen8] 17/5/2019 12:59

Here is an article I received this morning written by Alex Koyfman on the EV announcement by Volkswagen from earlier this week and the Tesla purchase of Maxwell. Makes very interesting reading given VRS positioning in the supply chain. .......................................


Earlier this week, the biggest automotive manufacturer in the world and owner of brands including Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini, and Porsche, as well as its own flagship make, Volkswagen, announced that it would start producing batteries as part of a massive effort to electrify its product lines.

The immediate plans include a $1.1 billion investment in a battery manufacturing plant in Germany's Lower Saxony, with as-of-yet unnamed partners.

This decision comes as a part of a grander philosophical shift within the company and within the industry toward electric vehicles.

To do its part, Volkswagen AG is promising no fewer than 70 electric vehicles in various brand lineups by the year 2028.

This decision yet again underscores the vital importance of lithium-ion battery technology to the future of transportation.

Last year, the automotive industry churned out more than 2 million hybrids and electric vehicles, or about 2% of the total global automobile market.

Within six years, that figure is expected to rise to 15%, as moving electrons gradually supplant hydrocarbons as the auto industry's chief power source.

This effectively makes the battery makers no less important to tomorrow's car industry than the oil companies themselves were to the past and current.

Only there is one major difference.

Whereas oil was a finite resource and the biggest trick was finding it, power from renewables like solar and wind power are not, making the trick in collecting and storing the power.

To dominate in the oil industry, all you had to do was get a hold of the biggest reserve and pump it cheaply enough to compete, and you would rise to the top.

The Saudis did just that with the legendary Ghawar oil field, the biggest in the world.

But to win the 21st century energy war, a competitor will need to build the best, most efficient, most reliable battery.

Powering the Next 100 Years

Whoever does will supply the entire industry, either directly or via licensing contracts.

That was Elon Musk's plan when he built the now-famous Tesla Gigafactory, but the fact that the world's biggest carmaker is jumping into the ring (10 million cars sold last year to Tesla's 250,000) raises the stakes substantially.

It should come as no surprise that given this level of competition and the potential rewards to whoever comes out on top, major companies are partnering with and outright buying smaller firms with rights to advanced lithium-ion technologies and manufacturing processes.

Daimler, the parent company of Mercedes Benz, did it with power controls for its own line of lithium-ion batteries, outsourcing the technology to a third party.

This year, Tesla went out and bought the California-based supercapacitor maker Maxwell, which has perfected a novel "fibrilization" process that allows for the production of batteries without the use of toxic solvents.

The final sale price was $288 million — more than 50% above Maxwell's market value at the time.

The big question for strategically minded investors is who will be next in this mad rush to build the world's best EV battery?

[1teepee] 17/5/2019 12:57

hTTps://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/thedriven.io/2019/05/06/musks-radical-rethink-of-electric-transport-and-the-value-of-tesla-and-its-cars/amp/Worth a read. Hopefully Elon accepts Neil's help

[woodpeckers] 17/5/2019 11:57

I'm number 66! Delighted with it! A family heirloom! Thanks Neill.

[fireball xl5] 17/5/2019 11:51

45, yesterday, and I’ve got lead in my pencil.

[sandbag] 17/5/2019 11:49

I too have just received the goody box (43/100).
Agree totally with MACAW4. Look too good to use.

[grabster] 17/5/2019 11:43

US/China trade war or tech war - yawn.

Sorry, but, decade after decade, these transient squabbles go on all the time - and the world keeps on turning, good businesses find a way through it all and keep on growing. The idea that Versarien has to "choose" which side it's on in some feud or other is nonsense.

Mid 1960s a school bully demanded to know "You a mod or a rocker?"
When I said "Neither." I got thumped. "You gotta be one or the other!"

No I haven't. And neither have Versarien got to choose between China and USA.

[macaw4] 17/5/2019 11:41

Earphones [42/100] plus book and 'goodies' arrived today.
Have to say, the elegant design and superb build quality is breathtaking.
CLASSY or what!
Performance check shortly.

M4