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[redchef] 20/3/2019 08:24

Been like that for a couple of days. I don't even think it's related to the same VRS

[adejuk] 20/3/2019 08:23

sg
i think we are aware of vrs quality and the problems that had to be solved to produce it. you, more than anyone, have beavered away and generously shared that info.
what we need, this year, is orders to support the share price and reflect that usp

[superg1] 20/3/2019 08:16

I if I chose could produce 1000 tonnes of graphene. It would cost me an absolute fortune and I'd have many warehouses stuffed full of it.

Well I'd call it graphene but perhaps with my experience and knowhow I'd probably be only doing about .01% yields. However I am then a graphene producer.

If you want it separated down to the graphene bit they I'm screwed. Or I could simply call it graphene and sell as much as I could while the end users have no idea either.

So If someone wants to explain to me how you separate 1000's of trillions of platelets for 1 kg then don't tell me apply for a job at GEIC.

A problem has been mass production and hopefully the recent posts explain why. It's not just about getting down to few layer but separating them out.

With some effort I suppose I could get 1 gram (it would take time). Then I could send that to GEIC or the NGI and crow about the quality graphene I can produce.

[smallfry1] 20/3/2019 08:12

spid The message did not come from Graham
However it did come from another whose opinion I value equally.
I am sure that you being a man of interlect would find it rather stupid of me to waste your time or mine discussing a company that I am not invested in
That would be ridiculous wouldn't it?
I only mentioned it to say message understood.

[superg1] 20/3/2019 08:00

Graphene separation from graphite.

The Talga 2.5% yield.

This is what some need to get an understanding of.

HOW do you separate 2.5% graphene from 97.5% graphite. Remember this is post production.

This is where it becomes mind boggling. 1um which can be a graphene platelet is 1 millionth of a metre.

So for a square metre you need one trillion of those.

Now we need to multiply that by 1315 because the surface area for 1 gram of graphene is 2630m2.

It is a mind boggling number and at that point you have only got to 1 gram of single layer graphene.

So how you separate the few layer from the rest? A centrifuge could be an answer and often is.

However that works on mass. So if you have a 40um single layer it will weigh the same as a 1um layer 40 layers thick.

Now for anyone that has followed this thread long enough and tried to understand the other points around graphene and how to get to a usable product, then they will know that some claims are simply currently impossible.

99% it seems don't bother to put the effort in to understand it. When you do BS stands out a country mile.

[1teepee] 20/3/2019 08:00

Any other news? You repeat yourself as much as the shorters and derampers

[jointer13] 20/3/2019 07:48

good post sg...its easy for some to get complacent about what we have here.

all coming along nicely.

[spid81] 20/3/2019 07:46

Morning Smallfry,

Could you let me know what the message contained about FGR, I might be able to direct you to the true information,

PM me,

Edit: Oh dear the information came from Graham. No more to be said really.

[superg1] 20/3/2019 07:45

Smallfry

Spid must be one of those gullible type that just gets sucked in by conmen.

It's quite simple logic really. There is no need for any investor to trash company one when set against the other UNLESS you have some trying to pump it to the unwary many of whom don't read the history of companies, check the news they put out or what they say in interviews.

If Haydale looked any good I'd have been a buyer. On my first look I though it was going places.

EG, never posted (I believe). While they go on about the patents, the actual process can't be patented. That came form a Manchester Uni scientists at the time (way back).

Then I found lies and deceit which I posted. I believe few others here were well invested but I hope they read the posts and changed their mind.

The Haydale PR company denied the redundancies to me, yet those made redundant, including some listed as key staff new otherwise. THEY were the source of the info. Their departures could be seen in the various companies.

The cash circs were so bad pre that fund raise that they were not paying some bills, that was known.

We tried to warn investors but along the way one or two passionate defenders of Haydale got sucked in by the lying team and pumped it. I've seen it all before (PRG and others).

Talga was pumped like mad partly by the same lot. I and a few others instantly say they were talking BS and only affection of claimed production would amount to being graphene.

In that case I think even Warwick who pumped it as a Billion dollar stock realised they only had a 2.5% yield.

[smallfry1] 20/3/2019 07:32

Thanks for the message
I had my doubts and now it's confirmed
I will avoid FGR like the plague
Oh dear looks worse than Haydale.
More than happy with Versarien.

[spid81] 20/3/2019 07:13

Good Morning RichaFling,

Could you please provide a link to "the companies who are certified Graphene producers"

[adejuk] 20/3/2019 07:11

groundhog day

[dafad] 20/3/2019 06:57

Thanks-a small world indeed

[matheus7777] 20/3/2019 06:52

Dafad, in response to a question about Team Ineos replacing Team Sky, Neill is tweeting "we are already connected with all parties independently, its a small world." This suggests a link is already established with Sir Jim Ratcliffe, who I read is a chemical engineer by training and leads a £45bn global business

[richafling] 20/3/2019 06:52

There is a link in the article listing the companies who are certified Graphene producersNumber 1 in the listing is versarien with a wide variety of areas of activity. All the other companies have a limited listing by comparison To anyone looking for a certified Graphene producer it is clear versarien is the leading company

[66sequoia] 20/3/2019 06:16

The Graphene Council (@GrapheneCouncil) Tweeted:There are hundreds of companies claiming to produce graphene on a commercial scale yet very few actually do . . .and new companies are popping up every day. How are graphene customers supposed to choose a reliable supplier? https://t.co/skSK2jEmuj https://t.co/X6jrD4dTsF https://twitter.com/GrapheneCouncil/status/1107976264227438592?s=17 ................it has been said enough times on here

[fireball xl5] 19/3/2019 23:37

Spid81, are you by any chance affiliated to a religious sect? You seem totally undaunted by the complete lack of interest by anyone here in your constant spamming of this thread. They say Mrs May has been compared to The Black Knight but you certainly have a more malignant disposition to even that of the Black Knight. As Arthur would say, “You’re a looney”.

[tini5] 19/3/2019 23:36

No, he just keeps Warwick’s hand warm.

[cookiejug] 19/3/2019 23:15

Thanks Metis..I need to look back over things, I'd missed those options you mentioned.

[metis20] 19/3/2019 22:47

cookiejug

Thanks for the IG interview info. - - very informative - 21 Feb 2019.

(As well as the options you refer to, the CEO and CFO are each still interested in 2,626,614 options exercisable at 15 pence per share and 1,050,761 options exercisable at 29 pence per share.)

[owenga] 19/3/2019 22:16

Whoops I'll carry on,FGR all the time on the VRS thread. We really aren't interested.Are you Warwick by any chance?

[owenga] 19/3/2019 22:15

Haha Spid, you do crack me up going on about F