Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[shavian] 02/3/2019 18:42

Big UK investment announced by JLR today. Specific mention in The Times of the importance of electrification and the links with WMG where as we know, VRS have staff members on the ground. Join the dots.

Very sad to hear of the death of WMG's founder Lord Battacharya who has done so much to revive the British auto industry, just as this great success is announced.

[20pc] 02/3/2019 17:55

"The first Aviation part that is going into short haul flights in Europe as we speak" Neill at 9:13 mins in.

[rogerbridge] 02/3/2019 17:14

Around 15th November 2018.

[rogerbridge] 02/3/2019 17:09

It’s in an rns, hopefully going into more aircraft.

[rogerbridge] 02/3/2019 16:32

Exactly Serratia. No room at VRS for overpaid executives. Shrewd CEO, Chris holds the purse strings really tightly. Technical experts at the top of thei tree in all deoartments. Exceptional team here.
The addition of Yi to the team brings expertise of the highest order.She has been brought in after Peter had smoothed the way. Add in UK and Chinese government backing and money in the bank, what’s not to like.

I am really excited over what 2019 holds for us all.

Quite a bit of excitement over the aircraft part that offers a huge reduction in weight.

[bobsworth] 02/3/2019 14:52

Well said Ridicule.

[serratia] 02/3/2019 13:18

Someone was belittling Neill elsewhere re salaries so I ran a comparison with other Graphene companies for both the CEO and the board of directors over the last 4 years using the latest 2018 figures -


Versarien CEO - Latest £206k, 4 year cumulative £636k. Board £388k, 4 year £1417k.

AGM CEO - £214K, 4 year cumulative £821k. Board £510k, 4 year £1993k.

Haydale CEO - £213k 4 year cumulative £826k. Board £516k, 4 year £2206k.

Directa + CEO - £389k (2017) 4 year cumulative £1455k (Only 2 years figures so pro rata). Board £742k, 4 year £2693k

First Graphene CEO - £503k 4 year cumulative £1590k. Board £1590k, 4 year £3630k.

FGR gave the CEO a bonus of £137k. They also say-

There has been no direct relationship between the Group’s financial performance and remuneration of key management personnel over the previous 5 years.

You can see that VRS look after shareholders funds more carefully than the others with FGR board being the most generous to themselves.

[superg1] 02/3/2019 12:32

Good find Grabster

As we said neither are very well thought of.

I was fascinated to discover that four judges in four separate court cases have cast doubt on Forrest’s truthfulness over the years. This is a very unusual record for someone who has run a major listed company in Australia. Forrest’s links to a far-right group, the Australian League of Rights, were also a surprise to me, given his reputation these days as a humanitarian.

Another revelation in the book concerns Forrest’s parlous financial situation in 2001, which led him to borrow money from Shayne Heffernan, a convicted drug dealer.
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Grigor

he left County Natwest Securities in 1991 to found Far East Capital Limited, a specialist mining company financier and corporate adviser, in partnership with Andrew "Twiggy" Forrest

[forestfred] 02/3/2019 12:29

20pc
Good thread thank you
Ff

[superg1] 02/3/2019 12:24

Thanks Maisto

I didn't want to go too public re Eco as everyone tends to pile in without research, a few decent Pis spotted my posts did their own research based on the pointers and got some.

I left it alone on posts after my initial findings, BTW I think one of our usual suspects went short on it as it took off. Analysts started to spot it and tips started to come out. I hope ECO hits the oil that seems to be there and those in will do very well.

I know there will be plenty more Aim sleepers out there.

Sopheon was one I picked at the start of last year. Again a quiet share that few were looking at. About £3.50 back then and around £11 now.

The best shares are generally those where the BBs are devoid of chat and low volumes.

Plan A in the next few years is to sit quietly away from the crowds investing in such funds. Even a passing thought by some to start our own group investing.

First up VRS has a long long way to go up yet imo on the share price Once they start hitting the big contracts and profits it will open the doors for a host of funds to invest who are currently prevented from doing so. Graphene and VRS will become a hot topic and they will start tipping it.

[20pc] 02/3/2019 12:18

AECOM Arch, apologies if this link has been posted before. I hadn't seen it before. 3:30 mins in. To install IT equipment into tunnels.

[sandbag] 02/3/2019 12:06

onone2,

"the uk has a iso for graphite"

ISO stands for International Organisation for Standardization. Standards apply to all member countries. Standards for UK only are British Standards (BSI) not ISO.

[ridicule] 02/3/2019 11:57

Spid81 We are all very sick of you incessantly bringing all this FGR rubbish on to this VRS thread. There is no comparison between FGR and VRS. VRS is the world leader and we are not interested in your bottom end of the Graphene/Graphite market. Your credibility is shot to pieces. What bit of that do you not understand?

Bringing up who said what to whom back in 2015 between two companies, FGR and Talga, neither of which we have any interest in is outrageous. Go away and stop trying to short my investment by trying to frighten those VRS investors of a nervous disposition into losses.

[rogerbridge] 02/3/2019 11:34

A happy ECO holder here SG. Lots more exciting and rewarding developments to come at VRS.

[maisto] 02/3/2019 10:43

SuperG, check this out. I went online to write you a 'thank you' note for ECO and I see you just posted this, mentioning ECO for the first time since your original post quite a few months ago. Now that's what I call a coincidence!

At the time of your initial mention, a friend asked me for tips, after seeing what VRS had done since I first mentioned it to her. Everyone was going on about HUR at the time but you mentioned ECO so I told her to have a look at it. She did, she liked what she saw and bought in. She is 50% up since then. So she sent me a thank you message yesterday and I thought I should pass it on to you. Btw ECO is up 72% since I put it on my watchlist and HUR is down 25%.

[onone2] 02/3/2019 10:39

yes time to move on:-0

i do not post much, but i have been involved with graphite/graphene for some time

i have a graphene project on the go as i type with back up from my off spring of whom qualified studying graphite at manchester uni,

[spid81] 02/3/2019 10:32

Hi Grabster,

Andrew Forrest then went on to form a $8.8 Billion iron ore Australian company,
ASX : FMG

his own personal wealth is around $5.5 Billion.

[superg1] 02/3/2019 10:21

One

You clearly haven't been around long.

No they don't worry me at all, but many early on had no understanding of what is and isn't graphene.


We have been through dozens of companies here. The crooks have been around too with lies. You should know that is typical fraud supported by ADVFN.

FGR has become a topic pumped by Spid and now most of the junk about them is here on the thread for investors to view.

Time to move on.

[grabster] 02/3/2019 10:17

o/t

".. Albert Wong remembers speaking to Forrest after he had set up the new venture. “He said to me, ‘Albert, you know the future is Asia. Come to my office, I’ve even got an Asian girl as a receptionist. And that’s why I’m called Far East Capital.’”
As the firm started to do more deals, the cash came rolling in. Just as they had planned at the Royal Hotel a few years earlier, Forrest and Grigor became rich. .."

(early background of FGR chairman and Far East Capital, for those interested in such stuff as their weekend reading. Article is about his business partner at that time, mercurial mining magnate Andrew Forrest)



".. Forrest has a track record of falling out badly with people he has done business with. As the book documents, his alpaca import venture in New South Wales ended up in a long-running court case. And his two major business partnerships in Sydney in the 1990s – with Warwick Grigor at Far East Capital and with Albert Wong at Intersuisse - both ended in acrimony and almost in litigation. He was later forced out as chief executive of Anaconda Nickel because he alienated the major shareholders. .."

[onone2] 02/3/2019 10:11

certainly no interest to me and the same should apply to you unless you are invested or lost on your investment,

the uk has a iso for graphite so you should pass your gripe to them,so they can do a feasibility study and prove their worthiness.

[superg1] 02/3/2019 10:09

So now can you ALL note the FGR posts, DYOR, filter Spid and stop engaging with him.

I have work to do.