Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[ridicule] 11/10/2017 11:59

Warwick Not only are you rude you are clearly unintelligent. To have one disability is unfortunate to have two is clearly careless. Sharpen up and be more contributive to the VRS debate.

[phoenixs] 11/10/2017 11:42

warwick, will you please send superg an email on ADVFN rather than coming on this thread.

[warwick69] 11/10/2017 11:41

Superg Keith Alluan of PHE asks if you have the balls to phone him and repeat your fraud accusations to him directly?? Rather than hide behind the keyboard ?

[john henry] 11/10/2017 09:46

Weak day today, offer 13.85p and a few PI sellers. Positive news required please LOL

[superg1] 11/10/2017 07:42

Multi-layer can be better for conductivity in particular thermal but is no good for strength (UTS etc)

[luckyorange] 11/10/2017 07:33

Strangely credibility in China is earned by only working and cutting your teeth in the west, hence the 2000+ Chinese students at UOM. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a Chinese company is keeping a wary eye on VRS and of course they are already in at HAYD

[phoenixs] 11/10/2017 07:19

LO a very tongue in cheek comment.

[luckyorange] 11/10/2017 07:16

When someone cracks the storage problem with the batteries (i.e. the Zapgo discharges very quickly) then there will be a lot of money (and batteries) to be made, should anyone do so then the rise in the value of the company that designs it will be stratospheric.

[luckyorange] 11/10/2017 07:08

lol quite the contrary phoenix.

[phoenixs] 11/10/2017 07:03

I don't think that exuberance has infected the Versarien share price
Maybe Versarien should list on the Chinese stock market Luckyorange

[shavian] 11/10/2017 07:02

Perhaps Mr Voller should speak to Neill

[luckyorange] 11/10/2017 00:13

From the above ^^^^^

However, Stephen Voller, chief executive of ZapGo, an Oxford-based technology start-up specialised in ultra-fast charging batteries, disagrees.
“Graphene with 10 to 20 layers is much cheaper and can already get excellent results in conductivity,” he said.


Interesting statement, would <10 be better?

They are not there by a long way yet



Maybe it's a case of buy cheap buy twice?

[luckyorange] 11/10/2017 00:06

Signs of excessive investor exuberance have emerged in China’s nascent graphene industry, as punters chase up the share prices of companies linked to a new material seen as having a promising future.


The share prices of mainland listed companies touted as graphene-related have risen sharply in recent months, with at least 14 listed companies valued at more than 100 times trailing price/earnings.

In one example Letong Chemical Co, a Guangdong-based ink paint provider listed in Shenzhen, was valued at more than 1,200 times trailing price/earnings.
“There are definitely bubbles in the graphene industry. Most companies only hyped the concept without real research,” said Li Yichun, secretary general of China Innovation Alliance of the Graphene Industry (CIAGI).

The cutting edge industry has attracted about 500 mainland Chinese companies. Of these, however, less than five have spent more than 100 million yuan (US$15.2 million) on related research, according to statistics by CIAGI.
South Korean scientists add value to new kind of graphene

Chen Jianhao, an associate professor of physics who studies graphene at Peking University, said the core technology lies in the thickness of the graphene and how much by-product waste is created along the preparation.
By laboratory standards, a single graphene layer is 0.3-nanometre thick, equivalent to a hundred thousandth of the thickness of a human hair.

The hype around graphene comes as China lacks a clear standard for the material and related applications, according to experts.
“Companies can claim what they want because of the [regulatory] vacuum. That’s why the association is studying industrial guidelines, ranging from examination standards for its preparation to what kind of products can be marketed as ‘graphene-enhanced’,” said Li.
He added that it was natural to expect delays in the preparation of a national standard.
Chen added his voice to the chorus calling for a unified standard.
“Graphene has to show its extraordinary qualities when added to improve existing material,” he said.

“The thin graphite sold in the market cannot be called graphene. They are essentially different in physicochemical properties,” he said.
Chen said he agrees with an academic consensus to limit the definition of graphene to material no thicker than 10 layers of carbon atoms.

However, Stephen Voller, chief executive of ZapGo, an Oxford-based technology start-up specialised in ultra-fast charging batteries, disagrees.
“Graphene with 10 to 20 layers is much cheaper and can already get excellent results in conductivity,” he said.

The breakthrough on carbon-ion batteries that can be recharged within five minutes or less is a result of over five years of research, said Voller.
In June, ZapGo unveiled a manufacturing agreement with Hunan-based Li-Fun Technology. The two companies plan to manufacture battery cells next year for global export.

“It’s ver
y exciting to see so much graphene research going on in China,” said Voller.
When asked whether investment is excessive, he said there was little reason to be concerned. “If China is going to ban all petrol and diesel cars like London, imagine the demand for electric car batteries in a few years’ time.”
Why Beijing’s plan to stop producing petrol and diesel cars could be a game-changer for the industry

The CGIA expects China will account for up to 80 per cent of the global graphene industry, which is expected to be worth at least 100 billion yuan.
Chinese companies have been aggressive in securing patents for graphene, though they lack blockbuster products compared to international giants such as IBM and Samsung, said Chen.

“Graphene research bears great uncertainty. It’s obvious to see over investment focused on the lower end, while lack of spending on the higher end,” he said.
The professor expects graphene-enabled filtration and purification devices in five to 10 years. However, it could be 10 years before graphene finds its way into commercial uses in fields like semiconductors and bio-pharmaceuticals.
“China used to be known as a copycat, but now as the country marches ahead, there’s no precedence to draw from. Domestic firms have to learn to spearhead [innovation],” said Chen.

Chen said he is concerned the hype around graphene might eventually hurt investors and ultimately dampen serious research.

[sandbag] 10/10/2017 23:45

Sorry, sent too soon.If anyone on Twitter is sending congrats to Neil, please include mine.Thanks

[sandbag] 10/10/2017 23:43

I don't do Twitter but if any one who does is sending their congra

[luckyorange] 10/10/2017 23:34

I am pleased to announce that I will be graduating with honorary Fellowship from @uniofglos for services to sml biz in Nov #vrs @versarien

[luckyorange] 10/10/2017 18:06

Linglong has produced a graphene compound tyre, makes me wonder when the the big names like Continental will dip their toe?

[festario] 10/10/2017 15:32

The real mid price is around 13.75p, so no actual improvement today, sadly.

[luckyorange] 10/10/2017 15:19

Oct 9, 2017
Nacre-like graphene composite is stronger and tougher

Nacre, also known as “nature’s armour”, is made up of a brick-and-mortar architecture in which hard bricks of aragonite are sandwiched together with soft biopolymer layers (the mortar). Now, a team at the University of Virginia in the US has made composites from graphene and aluminium that have the same type of structure as nacre’s but which have an even higher strength and toughness. Compared with aluminium on its own, the new bioinspired composite has a 210% improved hardness, 223% improved strength and 78% improved stiffness. It might find use in applications such as vehicles (cars, planes and trains), in which lower weight is important, as well as in next-generation electronics devices that call for strong, stiff and tough components that conduct heat well.

[anley] 10/10/2017 15:05

AGM -32% today
HAYD - 31% today

the market does not like new funding at this time.

[festario] 10/10/2017 15:04

We aren't able to ignite any real buying interest here are we?I'm too deeply in really, so no more adding for me.

[luckyorange] 10/10/2017 14:54

Jeez, AGM got their £9 million in quick time, totally beyond my comprehension, anyone know the theory behind it I would appreciate a lesson?

[tim3416] 10/10/2017 14:38

Come on Neill, now would be the perfect time for some more news to ignite this share price ;-)