Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[festario] 05/12/2018 10:12

SuperG, not all your 2018 tips did so well. CSSG didnt catch fire, sadly.

[billwave] 05/12/2018 10:07

Regards the lack of reported material sales of large volume of VRS 2D products thus far. To my mind it has never been the intention of VRS to produce in bulk and supply from their own shelves. Such a strategy would seriously impede growth and volumes to the size of their own production facilities and sales network. Forecasts for the required quantity and value of these 2D products over the coming years is projected to be many Billions. Versarien have a proven process to produce these products and their characteristics and quality have been verified by the worlds leading experts. I believe Versariens approach has been to awaken the world to the potential of their products. They have done this by producing only enough quantity to satisfy demand for samples for verifying quality and research into potential applications. Their 1T machine is no longer capable of satisfying the demand for these samples and hence the upgrade to the larger 3T unit.It has been quoted that so far all of the testing done by the 30+ collaborations has shown significant gains to products and not one of them has yet failed. At the time of these collaborations and MOU's being signed all parties would of been made well aware that Versarien is currently unable to produce in the quantities that will be required to fill demand, simply so huge that it would not be possible. Now as we can see, everyone that has tested Versariens products so far quite simply wants them, so much so they are willing to fund production facilities of a scale large enough to satisfy their own demand. Creating a business strategy for virtually unlimited growth which is both global and exponential. To my mind, anyone that cannot see where this is heading quite simply doesn't want to see. AIMHO.

[festario] 05/12/2018 10:06

Quite a bit of blue returning to my monitor. A bit of buying here should quickly send us well up.

[superg1] 05/12/2018 09:59

A quick example of when value starts to show through.

31st December last year I spotted the stock market comp fun league.

I quickly looked up some sectors and determined Sopheon looked undervalued and overlooked. I also thought Blue prism was nuts. I have mentioned the comparison from time to time.

Today

Blue Prism doubled during the year and is now back to where it was.

SPE was £3.60 and now £13.40.

The SPE value was obvious it was just missed by the market. It’s pretty much been missed by the herd.

Some that have VRS as high value but they have no clue re graphene.

Others are just crooks that attack all high value, high BB activity shares for gain by any means necessary. It’s been that way for a long time.

The value of VRS will show through.

EG FGR pump themselves like mad but the 2 tonne, IF tenders are won won’t cover 1/10th of directors salaries.

IE it seems at best FGR expect margins of £38k per tonne. No doubt that is the gross margin.

So that ‘big news’ in value terms is very poor.

Facts tend to spoil good stories.

[ellissj] 05/12/2018 09:55

Indeed lucky O, a reasonable guide within the mix. But when newsflow changes the game, some who stare too long at charts expecting a fall, with cash to invest, have already missed their opportunity ? Their fox shot :-0 my feeling is, sentiment in vrs is positive. We shall see ! :) Aimo. Best ellis

[pcjoe] 05/12/2018 09:48

Never heard about any recent beat discussing the ink and/or the likely flexenable/Truly connection - do they know about it - have they really done their homework?

[luckyorange] 05/12/2018 09:46

Gap filled , bounce coming hopefully. The question is , is there more to come, a lot of people seem to know about the removed website and if that comes to fruition shortly then there is a hell of a breakout on the cards.

Charting is fascinating elliss , it cuts out all of the 'noise' but is an indicator as are fundamentals, sentiment and newsflow, put those together with a CEO who has spent time creating trust and it underpins it all.

Anyone who is short in a biggish way should be looking at how to cash in without affecting the share price as they will also be aware of the Swiss interest, lots of money over there looking for a haven within a haven 😉

[phoenixs] 05/12/2018 09:45

there are a large number of ducks being lined up and when (not if) the rns comes out saying that Versarien has a sizeable sales contract for their grapheme, the share price will fly. IMO we do not have long to wait given the continuous stream of news.

[pcjoe] 05/12/2018 09:34

SG - are we talking ink here? - if so all in the public domain - as above

Specially liked this bit

"This approach allows OLCD to be manufactured on existing TFTLCD production lines and scaled to large area, and is currently being transferred to mass production in China for applications including consumer electronics, automotive and digital signage, representing an $80Bn addressable market."

[mjatkin82] 05/12/2018 09:33

As a genuine long term holder, my timeline is decades rather than years (not days like some on here). I might never sell and let my 2 year old daughter reap the benefit of my investment in many decades to come. Appreciate some have shorter tie lines but if you want a quick buck and ready access to your capital, then equities might not be for you and you should stop blaming VRS.

[ellissj] 05/12/2018 09:32

Some trade shares to make cash, isn't that true also? And spivs do so on a daily basis, looking for short term opportunities. Each to their own. They don't rock my boat. Aimo. Glalth. Best ellis

[potsol] 05/12/2018 09:32

CS, let's hope the share price is still at a reasonable level at that stage. Potential is all well and good but while it stays like that you have the likes of noblorry hanging round like a bad smell.

[ellissj] 05/12/2018 09:29

There's been enough newflow here to suggest it's likely vrs will weather any storm. Trump negotiating by tweet is v unhelpful to say the least. Especially when the chinese blink. Re brexit, the french riots has changed the game imo. Disorderly options off the table. It's an uncertain landscape for sure, what people do is up to them. We shall see. I wonder how nano steve is getting on re accreditation btw ? Holding here. Each to their own. Aimo. Best ellis.

[club sandwich] 05/12/2018 09:27

"VRS will be massive come 2019 !!!!"

well they certainly *should* be...

pshevlin

"At some point Mjatkin one has to wish that the market rises and we make some money. Maybe you are a tender youth but I would like some cash to spend in a couple of years. This is not a hobby."

amen to that, brother! it is going to rather involve them actually selling significant quantities of stuff at some stage, though...

[woodpeckers] 05/12/2018 09:22

Impvesta, I don't think I've ever heard of a company let alone been invested in one where there is so much potential for growth at little/no price/risk to the company. Fantastic situation to be in where other companies want what you have so badly that they are prepared to put up all the cash to make it happen.

[pshevlin] 05/12/2018 09:19

At some point Mjatkin one has to wish that the market rises and we make some money. Maybe you are a tender youth but I would like some cash to spend in a couple of years. This is not a hobby.

[fitzy89] 05/12/2018 09:18

I currently live in NZ and we don't have any ISAs and I can't open one in the UK as I am not a tax payer but I have my shares in my HL account so I can make the most of the tax free allowance if I ever sell or we end up with dividends in the future. I think this is the most tax efficient option I can think of atm.

[mjatkin82] 05/12/2018 09:17

Unless you have stopped accumulating VRS shares, the longer the market fails to recognise the insane potential here the better, surely?

Personally, hoping market remains shortsighted tomo. More fool them and more shares for me!

[tini5] 05/12/2018 09:12

Fitzy - hope you're using your ISA allowance :-)

[dickiebird2] 05/12/2018 09:11

VRS will be massive come 2019 !!!!

[fitzy89] 05/12/2018 09:10

As much as I would like the share price to be higher, it is allowing me more opportunities to continue to build my holding whilst the story is literally getting better and better by the day. I am 29 years old and can see how graphene and Versarien will massively impact my lifetime. I started buying at 19p and have continued to purchase all the way up. The management team have my full trust and continue to impress. I am happy to wait for these deals to progress and can see where the company is going.