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[scottishfield] 07/11/2018 13:46

Good for you Maisto, well done!

[maisto] 07/11/2018 13:43

Hi everyone, it's been a while since I last posted. I, too, was, and still am, extremely disheartened by what this board has become. Now, I'm all for hearing opposing views and making my own judgement in the end. However the likes of 'he who shall not be named' very clearly have an agenda. Their lies have been caught numerous times which they are very quick to apologise for. In other times I keep noticing subtle word plays, altering reality and facts. What's worse, they do this in repeat mode every single day, many times a day. Even today, they're saying (including Club) the share price hasn't moved much, when we've been up by 7-10% for the best part of the day; calling today's RNS 'another MoU' when it's actually the first of its kind since Nov 2014 (MOU with National Graphene Institute); then calling it 'another collaboration' when it's actually an MoU... They have zero shame in twisting the most obvious facts. Imagine what they must be doing on the more technical stuff. So for me, they have lost their credibility and I will join the bandwagon to ask those who are engaging with the trolls to please please please refrain from doing so. If no one replies to them, they will go away. Or at least they will annoy us on a less frequent basis because there will be no dialogue. Then hopefully we can take our board back to its more sensible, pleasant and informative days. A note for Club: I called you bipolar in a light-hearted banter in my first post on the site a few months ago. You have now gone completely off the rails. Of course you are right in principle – we need sales. But going on and on about it in the manner that you do is just weird, senseless and counterintuitive. Like someone else said, if you've lost your confidence and patience in Neill then just sell your shares (if you haven't done so already) at the decent profit they must have accumulated now and relax. If not, then please stop cutting the branch you're sitting on. Final note, I actually find Fest's posts on the demand extremely helpful. It tells a thousand stories about the state of the market at that moment and more importantly, what is about to come. Best Maisto

[ratpat999] 07/11/2018 13:39

Will put some nice pressure on Jinan and others to secure the right deal now the cat is out the bag!! - the race is on!!!

[mryl] 07/11/2018 13:37

For those who remember our collab with Vivobarefoot, here is a video of a chaps I personally follow on YouTube for workout/mobility training who shares is favourite barefoot shoes. Vivobarefoot starts at 5:50 and it is his top pick. When watching the video you immediately get a feel of how graphene is the perfect material for this type of shoes.
Great RNS today, I'm pumped :)
Cheers

[anley] 07/11/2018 13:26

Has a date been fixed for the Half Yearly results?

Thanks.

[chimpandy1] 07/11/2018 13:25

The 25k seller has been around for quite a while now, they surely can't have many left?

[andymoore07] 07/11/2018 13:22

So interims;normally planned for first week depending on other commitments and planning of analysts and institutions.Are we thinking Friday then?!

[bootie64] 07/11/2018 13:19

Yes I am sure it would make the day today for all holders to concentrate on this fantastic news and appreciate the hard work/long hours involved in securing this MOU

[vrs1] 07/11/2018 13:09

Fair point chimp and Scottish. A really good day today. I see £2 soon.

[cheek212] 07/11/2018 13:08

There is a filter button option for a reason - use it FFS!

[chimpandy1] 07/11/2018 13:05

Please can people stop responding to log. It's tiring to read. You can't argue with stupidity, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

[axotyl] 07/11/2018 13:04

Ratpack - see PM.

[ratpat999] 07/11/2018 13:03

For newcomers to this thread/bulletin board, it's worth repeating this 30th October 2018 post by Spike: Fact Between noon today (30th October) and noon a week ago (23rd October), there have been 1,706 posts on this thread. Between them Spid81 and loglorry accounted for 161 (nearly 10%), 23 per day on average. HOWEVER neither of them are invested in VRS, and neither of them believe that VRS is a good investment, indeed they spend a considerable part of their waking hours rubbishing VRS using lies, half truths and twisted and incomplete data to make VRS as unattractive an investment as they possibly can. WHY would the want to do that. The answer is very simple - they are shorting VRS and are desperate to try to get the price down before news such as China catapults the price up over £2, and quite possibly bankrupts them. Reading their posts can damage your wealth. - it is really that simple

[ratpat999] 07/11/2018 13:03

For newcomers to this thread/bulletin board, it's worth repeating this 30th October 2018 post by Spike: Fact Between noon today (30th October) and noon a week ago (23rd October), there have been 1,706 posts on this thread. Between them Spid81 and loglorry accounted for 161 (nearly 10%), 23 per day on average. HOWEVER neither of them are invested in VRS, and neither of them believe that VRS is a good investment, indeed they spend a considerable part of their waking hours rubbishing VRS using lies, half truths and twisted and incomplete data to make VRS as unattractive an investment as they possibly can. WHY would the want to do that. The answer is very simple - they are shorting VRS and are desperate to try to get the price down before news such as China catapults the price up over £2, and quite possibly bankrupts them. Reading their posts can damage your wealth. - it is really that simple

[ratpat999] 07/11/2018 13:03

For newcomers to this thread/bulletin board, it's worth repeating this 30th October 2018 post by Spike: Fact Between noon today (30th October) and noon a week ago (23rd October), there have been 1,706 posts on this thread. Between them Spid81 and loglorry accounted for 161 (nearly 10%), 23 per day on average. HOWEVER neither of them are invested in VRS, and neither of them believe that VRS is a good investment, indeed they spend a considerable part of their waking hours rubbishing VRS using lies, half truths and twisted and incomplete data to make VRS as unattractive an investment as they possibly can. WHY would the want to do that. The answer is very simple - they are shorting VRS and are desperate to try to get the price down before news such as China catapults the price up over £2, and quite possibly bankrupts them. Reading their posts can damage your wealth. - it is really that simple

[ratpat999] 07/11/2018 13:03

For newcomers to this thread/bulletin board, it's worth repeating this 30th October 2018 post by Spike: Fact Between noon today (30th October) and noon a week ago (23rd October), there have been 1,706 posts on this thread. Between them Spid81 and loglorry accounted for 161 (nearly 10%), 23 per day on average. HOWEVER neither of them are invested in VRS, and neither of them believe that VRS is a good investment, indeed they spend a considerable part of their waking hours rubbishing VRS using lies, half truths and twisted and incomplete data to make VRS as unattractive an investment as they possibly can. WHY would the want to do that. The answer is very simple - they are shorting VRS and are desperate to try to get the price down before news such as China catapults the price up over £2, and quite possibly bankrupts them. Reading their posts can damage your wealth. - it is really that simple

[axotyl] 07/11/2018 12:58

It's a deal, Fes (and it wasn't a demand, just a gentle hint).

Log's losing steam anyway, and just mumbling the same garbage ad infinitum. I'm surprised WinnieBear hasn't lost patience with his efforts.

[fuji99] 07/11/2018 12:58

nelly "log, so what is the daily pay for bashing a share.".
Normally if someone doesn't like a stock he/she just goes away.
But if someone is still around there is always an interested reason.

[a_game] 07/11/2018 12:56

had a few top ups - market hasn't properly digested this huge news yet, expect we'll get a delayed reaction over the coming days like we have seen previously.

Today's news is one of the biggest VRS has ever put out imo - sets the blueprint for further expansion in China (remember they have over 30 interested parties now), let alone being a big worldwide player. Great work Matt & Peter. Game on.

[bootie64] 07/11/2018 12:55

Move along please, nothing to see :)

[loglorry1] 07/11/2018 12:54

@vrs you keep saying VRS are going to be mega but when I ask you why you give me little more than "because Neill says so".

Today's collaboration announcement is just that. We've had loads before.

The market cap of VRS means they must show that Nanene has a significant advantage over XGS, FGR or Talga products or over Chinese manufacturers currently supplying Graphene. They are valued 9x higher so they must show a significant advantage not just constantly talk about one.

The main thrust of the bull argument seems to be that VRS has a process that can't be equalled in terms of fewest layers and lateral size. That's just not true however. Further for many applications that's not a critical factor anyway. Lastly if it were true why no significant sales to date whereas other companies are selling their offerings?

[festario] 07/11/2018 12:46

Ha, Axotyl, I shall comply with your demands, and restrict myself to a couple of key times a day. If I annoy you further, please feel free to filter me.Andy Moore, sadly, I've been chastised for doing what you suggest.I'm all for democracy!

[scottishfield] 07/11/2018 12:45

Don't respond vrs1 !!!

[vrs1] 07/11/2018 12:43

Log lorry. You keep harping on about the same thing. Give up and go away. No one is saying that VRS are making millions and are a FTSE 100. No one. Do you get this. No one. But, and a big but, most here see the potential and recognise that VRS have something special here. Your toxic log and so are you, spid. If you think VRS is not a safe investment, then don't invest. Your not here for me or my fellow investors. Your here for dangerous reasons. Your not trying to protect my investments. VRS are going to become mega.

[loglorry1] 07/11/2018 12:42

Thanks @fuji. That RNS mentioned the 2016 order which was £100k. If you go look at it you'll see Versarien expected further follow on orders. None ever happened. It's also not clear that VRS were paid because the sale was never broken out in the accounts.

I'd totally agree with you IF VRS were the only company producing and that can produce few layer GnP but they are NOT. PureGRAPH is. XGS is. In fact under the ISO spec Nanene isn't even 100% FLG.

Also you have to remember that fewest layers isn't always the best applications eg coatings, heat transfer that's not an advantage. Where it is an advantage seems to be in adding to polymers to increase strength. However Nanene lateral sizes are mostly below the minimum 5um average (at 0.1-10um) that research suggests is required.

It's also very strange to me that if VRS have the one and only true Graphene that makes all the difference that they've not had any of their collaborations turn into significant sales in the last 3 years of trying.