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[loglorry1] 30/10/2018 18:06

"trading updates are backwards looking and very quickly out of date."

Lol, gotta love Neill. 3 months ago he had never been more excited. So Neill what happened in the last 3 months? "No point telling you cos it's backward looking. Oh and btw I've never been more excited"

The most amusing bit is how investors lap it up like excited puppies.

[jointer13] 30/10/2018 18:00

"Progressing royally on a number of things China and non-China related and on aspects that go 100 miles beyond the present."

"from the impatient to the patient"

[jointer13] 30/10/2018 17:55

great post lucky....thanks

[zooskeeper] 30/10/2018 17:46

Neill on Twitter ‘Not that I am unwilling , trading updates are backwards looking and very quickly out of date.’

Not helping when we are all crying out on info of a transformational year. Why give one last year

[belo horizonte] 30/10/2018 17:35

Government in waiting. Look at the cretins who are waiting. They should go and practice their trade in Venezuela first. More chance of Ricketts making a decent sale than that bunch of communist scruffs forming a government.

[spike_1] 30/10/2018 17:06

squire - ;0)

[squire007] 30/10/2018 17:05

Nice one Spike, :-)

Can you lend your magic pen now to NR .. ;-0 .. lol

[ellissj] 30/10/2018 16:48

Great post luckyO. Very encouraging and music to my lth ears ! Afore ye go laddies ! Best ellis

Edit : just had to read that matt w tweet again, it was so good. I agree scottishfield. Good evening all. Best ellis.

[scottishfield] 30/10/2018 16:46

Thank you luckyorange. I could skip the whole of today's board contents and just read that. People really need to catch themselves on. imo.

[ellissj] 30/10/2018 16:45

Ask him again in private club ?

Expectations should be managed and change as the facts change. Dealing with disappointment is life, it's how you transform it that counts. If neill dwelt upon disappointments, he wouldn't be where he is now. I was hopeful for 2018 iso in play too, but v likely blowback from the industry has stalled that. Hardly surprising, Cos 90% plus ? Can't meet the standard. Nano particles over 10 layers are graphite nano particles per prof young uom. Ie morph from 2D to a 3D material.

What we do know, is that vrs has self declared that it's confident its products will meet the iso standard (twice in case of nanene).

As for the rest, have a look through AR july. Greater graphene investment. Purchase orders recd. China ? Has mushroomed from 1 party to 30 ? The game changes, thus shift expectations, as what was said in good faith before, can be irrelevant now? Especially since the chinese prize is greater than ever, and worth waiting for ! To my mind, trading/investment conditions explain the rest. The share itself looks as good as ever to me. Aimo. Dyor. Best ellis.

[luckyorange] 30/10/2018 16:43

Matt Walker tweets again and that is all I need to know and you won't get any better than that as an update without it being an RNS.

"the activity has never stopped in China. In fact, it has increased 50 fold. As I keep telling people, we are dealing with a Super Power and there will only be a deal when/if we get EXACTLY what we want, which includes careful forward planning."

"Progressing royally on a number of things China and non-China related and on aspects that go 100 miles beyond the present.... which is my whole point - timing is an important concern, yes, but 'present time' is being balanced against 'aspiration'.

" It's a personal frustration not being able to speak about what goes on but I can assure you and everyone else that I'm not involved in this for a nice quick win on a political or economic news story - this is for U.K. plc as well as #vrs"

"Lots of long hours but we are really enjoying it and are bang on schedule with progress "

"In laymans terms..... where we have a measure and where it is in our gift, we are where want to be according to our action plans."

and finally

"I have every intention in staying with #VRS to realise our domestic/global expansion and bd plan regardless of the initial 12 month rule of thumb agreement. I'm delighted where we currently are and I won't accept 2nd best for any of us "

[adejuk] 30/10/2018 16:40

not to mention 6 months to install a water meter

[adejuk] 30/10/2018 16:39

jeez
it takes me 6 weeks to get an appt with my gp unless i use bupa
two months to arrange a boiler service
and conglomerate collabs are expected to sign deals within six months?
get a grip

[richgrumpa] 30/10/2018 16:37

Interesting to note that log and Spid are able to take a well-earned breather when dear Clubbie is in full flow. If he thinks he is doing anything to advance the VRS cause, then he is sadly deluded....

[adejuk] 30/10/2018 16:35

club
rein it in
you are becoming tiresome
we have all heard you
i will use the filter button if you don't go and talk to your mum

[chimpandy1] 30/10/2018 16:34

Who needs shorters when you have investors like club! Neill said he would be disappointed if some of our customers didn't make orders within the next 6 months. "Some"being plural. 6 months isn't long to wait really and one of those orders could land tomorrow for all we know.

[club sandwich] 30/10/2018 16:27

"I sense orders very shortly"

and you're not alone. yet they still don't arrive...

and what does 'very shortly' mean anyway?

ah, and now you've edited it to sensing 'news' very shortly. hedging your bets, perhaps? ;-) or perhaps *not* so confident that orders are coming very shortly...

[davemac3] 30/10/2018 16:27

I think that's reasonable Club S, VRS have suggested that most of those will happen this year.

[jointer13] 30/10/2018 16:26

club....I do not think like you.

I understand how these things work.

neill and team have done an absolutely outstanding job in getting us to this position so quick.

I sense news very shortly.

[luckyorange] 30/10/2018 16:25

Turned into a Club Sandwich support group now? Demands attention, gets it then demands more, bottomless pit.

[club sandwich] 30/10/2018 16:18

"Maybe email neill with your expectations"

I've already told him my expectations for VRS for this year on Twitter when he asked what my investment strategy was. Strangely he didn't reply.

"My strategy? To see whether VRS hits the milestones I have in my head. For 2018: ISO cert/approval; company breakeven/small profitability; a substantial (ie notifiable) order; a deal in China, perhaps just an initial maiden contract. Any 2 of those will be enough - so far zero."