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[66sequoia] 25/10/2018 23:24

Steve Hodge chatting to these guys in indiaHttps://www.dynamatics.com/news.shtml

[luckyorange] 25/10/2018 22:55

Whatever your view on him this is a great relaxed interview / discussion and there is talk about batteries around 12 minutes in but not anything new.

Talking Tech with Elon Musk! Published on Aug 17, 2018

[luckyorange] 25/10/2018 22:52

When you put up links and not in the blue, if you just put a capital H in place of the lower case it will create a direct link.

[redstone64] 25/10/2018 22:16

Neill mentioned on Twitter he was at Rutherford so here:https://stfc.ukri.org/about-us/where-we-work/rutherford-appleton-laboratory/

[loglorry1] 25/10/2018 22:15

@ridicule spid has shown PureGRAPH to be FLG under the ISO standards pending. It is the same category as Nanene although has bigger lateral dimensions.

A comparison in pricing is therefore valid no?

Why would customers buy from VRS at higher prices assuming they can scale that is?

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You couldn’t write a book about it! Spid and Loggy/Kempster talking tonnage prices for Graphene and how market pressures will drive them down! They sound that do know the difference both in quality and application between Graphene, graphite or why not throw it in, cornflakes! Their technical grasp knocks Stephen Hodge into the shade!

[ridicule] 25/10/2018 22:10

You couldn’t write a book about it! Spid and Loggy/Kempster talking tonnage prices for Graphene and how market pressures will drive them down! They sound that they know the difference both in quality and application between Graphene, graphite or why not throw it in, cornflakes! Their technical grasp knocks Stephen Hodge into the shade!

[ayl30] 25/10/2018 22:09

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/hammond-clears-path-pension-billions-202200439.html

[loglorry1] 25/10/2018 21:56

@spid yes and i see a lot of competition driving prices down. If VRS have nothing unique and all the evidence suggests it I have no clue as to how they can survive at 3mt level.

Edit: oh sorry goes without saying no prices given. The usual excuse it gives away competitive advantage to do so is given.

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Good morning Loglorry,

Has VRS ever provided any details on how much 1 tonne of Nanene is like to sell for?


FGR disclosed to their shareholders in the 8 May 2017 ASX announcement,that FGR's FLG (as per draft ISO) could expect price per of between US$100-150 /kg
US $100,000 - 150,000 per T,this was current bulk price of battery grade graphene from China.

In the FGR capability statement August 2017 ASX announcement they had the following table



I believe the table came out of the Fullerex Graphene Pricing report 2016-17
the updated version can be purchased from the Graphene Council


As you can see that the bulk price for FLG (Nanene Graphene) should see a price of US $100,000 - 250,000 per T.

The new Nanene 3t production unit could generate revenues between US$300,000 - 750,000.

[spid81] 25/10/2018 21:50

Table didn't load,

@loglorry, would you be able to add the following image.

[spid81] 25/10/2018 21:45

Good morning Loglorry,

Has VRS ever provided any details on how much 1 tonne of Nanene is like to sell for?


FGR disclosed to their shareholders in the 8 May 2017 ASX announcement,that FGR's FLG (as per draft ISO) could expect price per of between US$100-150 /kg
US $100,000 - 150,000 per T,this was current bulk price of battery grade graphene from China.

In the FGR capability statement August 2017 ASX announcement they had the following table



I believe the table came out of the Fullerex Graphene Pricing report 2016-17
the updated version can be purchased from the Graphene Council


As you can see that the bulk price for FLG (Nanene Graphene) should see a price of US $100,000 - 250,000 per T.

The new Nanene 3t production unit could generate revenues between US$300,000 - 750,000.

[ellissj] 25/10/2018 21:35

Nothing to do with me !;) best ellis

[dafad] 25/10/2018 21:32

Looks as if these guys will help protect our IP

[luckyorange] 25/10/2018 21:22

'shanaghings' another for the dictionary, Irish origins perhaps a shillelagh would help.

Quite right Kemorkid, traders, sb/s and scared PI's with mm's in the mix and shorters are just a small part of it . funny old world.

[jointer13] 25/10/2018 21:16

"So this thread is about how to wheel snd deal or the shanaghings in the markets
Please revert to title !"

bit out of order that !

your post from a couple of weeks ago.

"Advice please !

My daughter works 31 k per annum
If I put 20 k from profits of my Isa
Into a new ISA for her is there any tax implications for her ie tax man says where
you get that money honey ??"

KK

[kemorkid] 25/10/2018 21:10

How do you know it’s shorters ax ??
You know the market ??
Nobody knows the markets !

[axotyl] 25/10/2018 21:04

"So this thread is about how to wheel snd deal or the shanaghings in the markets
Please revert to title !" - Kemorkid

As we've got a temporary shorter infestation, I think it's relevant to discuss the insecticidal options, improve our defences and incinerate the carcasses....

[ellissj] 25/10/2018 21:01

I hope this graphene commercialisation conference at cranfield went well in sept. Steve hodge and martin kemp both spoke according to event programme; glalth. Best ellis

"Morning session, part 2:

Stephen Hodge, Cambridge Graphene Centre
Katerina Busuttil, BSI
Keith Paton, NPL
Nick Cliffe, UKRI InnovateUK

12:30-13:30Lunch and visits to graphene exhibits and posters13:30-

15:40 Afternoon session, part 1:

Ray Gibbs, Haydale
Martin Kemp, Versarien PLC"

[luckyorange] 25/10/2018 20:58

Thanks lovat, s/b companies do buy shares then, but as few as possible and they can use them in a few ways.

Most of the s/b companies say that 79% of CFD holders lose on the trade but they don't seem to quote anything on spreadbetting so assume they have lumped that in i.e you s/b for a certain amount of time which is in effect a CFD before rolling it over.


Therefore only 21% of spreadbetters make a profit, not good odds really and you would need to watch it like a hawk hence the presence of unsavoury characters.

No good setting a stop loss and going out either because they are 'jumped' when it suits the mm's.

The case for real shares is strong for me because I would find it tedious and unhealthy to be inside for days on end to protect your capital on an s/b.

Much prefer to switch off , get outside and take in the sometimes magical world that we live in 🌞🌞

[kemorkid] 25/10/2018 20:47

So this thread is about how to wheel snd deal or the shanaghings in the markets
Please revert to title !

[luckyorange] 25/10/2018 20:46

Ridiculous the fall in the Dow yesterday and the rise today just proves that, 'sea of green' on the nasdaq.

I have been annoyed at Trumps trade 'war' with China, when you look back in history China was trading quite a few millennia before the US existed, it is a battle that he will ultimately lose and ultimately will lose the Presidency over it should he continue.

Anyway , what matters most is that it has spurred China on to create ties with other markets/countries/innovators, be interesting to see how it all pans out.

[jointer13] 25/10/2018 20:43

fest

they say they don't lend them out...but to make sure they don't, you have to put an order on them.

that will blx them up

[ellissj] 25/10/2018 20:38

This from july, wonder if 2D materials get a look in ? Best ellis.

"UK announces £343m lift-off for electric and hybrid planes

Around £68m of funding will support small and medium-sized businesses for research and development opportunities"

[festario] 25/10/2018 20:36

Jointer, II say they don't lend them out, but if they did I couldn't prevent it.Because the maximum sell price you are allowed to put on your shareholding is only 50% above the current price.I've complained bitterly about this, but it's fallen on deaf ears.

[jointer13] 25/10/2018 20:32

I will put mine on or £20 for starters -:)

[jointer13] 25/10/2018 20:30

gotta be worth a go.