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[sonsonnyjim] 04/8/2018 11:46

Anorherdrink would depend entirely on the benefits. How would graphene improve clothing? It's weight? I would guess the biggest impact would be in the boots, for the lightest, mo less strong boot they'd probably pay a LOT for exclusivity

[anotherdrink] 04/8/2018 11:00

If Puma can pay £50 million a year as kit suppliers for Manchester City - at what price would VRS exclusivity come - £100 million a year or so? I know its comparing apples to oranges but doesn't the Manchester City deal reveal just what value there is in supplying the wearable technology of tomorrow.

[lovat scout] 04/8/2018 10:55

SG - I have often thought that one of the *collaborateurs* may take a stake when they see the test results but it could be construed as trading on inside information, particularly as prior knowledge of a large order would no doubt boost the share price. One for the lawyers.....

[772] 04/8/2018 10:53

Just researching Nikes new technology. It appears they can 3D print uppers for footwear and also clothing for elite athletes, having computer mapped their contours. I wonder if incorporating graphene into the materials gives any improvement.

[festario] 04/8/2018 10:50

SuperG...... the selling out due to LOL comment was obviously in jest.But, it is a bugbear of mine. Modern textspeak.I'm probably too old fashioned to appreciate it.

[20pc] 04/8/2018 10:40

What a difference a year makes this time last year we were in a slide from the April 26p peak to 13p October low. The wise ignored the noise and held and topped up. Since October the news has been relentless and overwhelming. Rreat work and thanks to all on here and especially Neill and the growing team. I am taking a week off going to Cornwall and promising myself to not check my phone, yeah, bull, come 7am on Monday I will be perched on a rock admiring the spectacular Cornish coast. There is no way I won't take a peak. If we have come this far in a year, the mind boggles at where we will be this time next year … Rodney.

[1retirement] 04/8/2018 10:18

Backbone and more importantly, integrity.

[haz101] 04/8/2018 09:56

Well said SG, VRS showing backbone...I like it..

[superg1] 04/8/2018 09:53

Garfield

All exclusive deals I have seen to date on the AIM have proved fruitless and apparent blockers by the big names.

FUM is a great example where GSK screwed them 3 times. No cash just dign the dotted line for the lifestyle to keep the plates spinning.

Exclusive should only be with big money up front and large yearly payments to retain it imo.

VRS are well aware of big boys bully games and expectations by big names that small fry will sign anything for a link up.

Even more impressive then re collaborations signed with such big names without total exclusivity even though exclusivity is requested.

A genuine team trying to build a large company for the benefit of all.

[ellissj] 04/8/2018 09:45

We know neill wishes to build 'a substantial company.' Logically, the deals, and nature of the deals, vrs make should reflect that. All looks good thus far in this regard to my mind. Aimo. Best ellis

[ellissj] 04/8/2018 09:41

'Unbreakable mobile phone screens' says the minister for investment. I imagine the lucky uk graphene firm responsible could mass produce these in the uk and ship worldwide for final assembly ! Just a thought ! aimo. Best ellis.

[ellissj] 04/8/2018 09:37

I see neills had a good holiday per twitter. Well earned break and sounds ready for the next big push. Cali mentioned ! Good luck. Best ellis.

[garfield31] 04/8/2018 09:32

Exclusive deals with big companies can backfire. The history of Nano and Fum shows how this can restrict the development of a product. Both these show how long the periods of commercial development can be.

[woodpeckers] 04/8/2018 09:30

Thanks Richard, found it!

[mctavishscot] 04/8/2018 09:17

Superg1 Take it a step further why not buy the whole company outright and have exclusive rights full Stop?

[superg1] 04/8/2018 09:11

I see NR calls the latest one the biggest deal yet.

I had been wondering why big names had not appeared for footwear given that Nanane can enhance all aspects of it. Only a matter of time after vivo signed up but in reality that one probably started on the talks before vivo.

On exclusivity, if they see material gains and that tranlates to market position gains (highly likely) then it makes me wonder if such companies would take a stake in VRS.

My first thought was the 100's of millions spent just on advertising by such guys.

The reality on that is Nike alone will spend $3.5 billion this year just on advertising.

[woodpeckers] 04/8/2018 08:56

tmoon, how do you know Neill's off to California?

Melf, I mentioned yesterday that it must be very tempting to sign an exclusive deal with a big name which covers just one sector. Obviously the financial rewards for doing so would be great for the company but more importantly we would be able to advertise the deal and the kudos would attract a lot more business for other sectors...tempting... there must be a reason why Neill has chosen not to go this route.

[scottishfield] 04/8/2018 08:43

Good post chillpill.

[luckyorange] 04/8/2018 08:42

From the same link but a good reason to move away from Lithium

"Silvery lithium’s great strength is also its biggest weakness. It’s unstable. It explodes. A lithium-ion laptop battery holds as much energy as a hand grenade. “Having a smartphone in your pocket is like having kerosene in your pocket,” says Mike Zimmerman, the founder and CEO of Ionic Materials.
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Plenty more to read there but does explain the race to move away from Lithium

[haz101] 04/8/2018 08:40

Melf we would of had a bounce then settled again IMO a lot of ppl wanting hard £ on the dotted line, me I’m happy for NR and co to keep on building

[chillpill] 04/8/2018 08:36

CS has a habit of setting himself unrealistic timelines for things to happen.

I'll say it again. It takes years to build companies not a few weeks.

When I bought in last year the shares were artificially cheap due to Rob Giles selling. When the price was 15p the correct price I thought, based on progress,the fair price was in the 30-45p region. I felt £1 for the end of 2018 was a fair target.

Since then I have been blown away by the progress and have no idea where it could be by the end of next year.
My feeling is if it goes to £2 it has a high probability of going to £5 and £10.

If it goes to £2 it will probably mean one of the collaborations has moved into a commercial agreement. If one is signed many more are likely. So as long as the good news keeps coming I am just going to see where it goes.

I have always thought Nike might be the fastest mover. They are a fast moving business.

Sit back and relax as the next year should be at least as exciting as the last 10 months.

[luckyorange] 04/8/2018 08:27

Probably been posted before but I didn't read it, it's a long one!





The explosive race to totally reinvent the smartphone battery

Lithium-ion batteries power everything from smartphones and laptops to electric cars and e-cigarettes. But, with lithium close to breaking point, researchers are scrambling for the next battery breakthrough



Some, including Sam Cooper of the Dyson School of Design Engineering, have questioned whether companies would actually want to put a device that lasts that long into their products. “There is a clear profit incentive for phone companies to have the device die in time for the next release.This race may not exist,” he says, bluntly. Voller admits that among the 30 or so patents that ZapGo holds is a way to artificially degrade the life of its cells, to stop them from lasting for three decades. “We wouldn’t do that, but we have the ability to offer it to our customers if they choose to do it,” he says.


Isn't that interesting? Answers that question 👍

[melf] 04/8/2018 08:27

If this week's RNS has had the words "Nike" or "Adidas" in it I wonder what would have happened to the share price :-#)