Totally Share Discussion Threads

[deltrotter] 13/7/2018 09:04

Not sure it is that competitive jdunning..... but agree it is undervalued.

I am looking forward to seeing them announce some juicy big contracts in the coming months....

[grahamwales] 13/7/2018 09:04

Acquisition related costs of £1,176,000 have been recognised as an exceptional administrative expense in the consolidated statement of comprehensive income.

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As part of the purchase agreement with the previous owners of Vocare Limited, there were additional cash payments to the previous owners of Vocare Limited as follows:

a)   £1,000,000, based on the entity's financial performance for the year ending 31 March 2018.


Cash payments. Cash prior to results £11 million cash after results £10 million.

[jdunning] 13/7/2018 09:02

To spin the discussion.. careuk was acquired in a deal worth £425m back in 2010.. before the deal careuk released the following financial results.. group revenue £326.2M and operating profit of 20.2M and £8.5M after tax and expenses over 9 month period. Yes this is a high revenue low profit company in a highly competitive market but there is a lot to be said about the current MCAP grossly undervalued given the latest financial report

[che7win] 13/7/2018 08:53

Grahamwales, By the way, you completely missed my point about cash burn of the operating business, so I refute your 'do try to keep up' statement.Hint: it wasn't £1m, you are mixing up investment fund raise and acquisition costs with the actual business.

[deltrotter] 13/7/2018 08:08

No discussion about the company presentation or the note I linked to with the 160p - 250p target.....

[deltrotter] 13/7/2018 08:04

How much longer will you guys be talking about Nicky?

[jdunning] 13/7/2018 08:01

According to Nicky21 only $2M in the bank lol

[porky8] 13/7/2018 07:58

Micky
Good luck with Copl ....... Horrendous cash burn ........ $ 5 million a year

[bozzy_s] 13/7/2018 00:39

Cheers Dave. Just reading that, it sounds like he thinks he's actually helping others by doing what he does! Not just talking his own book to make dosh from idiots. Can't see him stopping voluntarily.

[nicky21] 12/7/2018 19:11

i would have stayed in here..i know this will double or treble or quadruple but it will take a while.
Copl on the other hand is a resource stock and they normally double,treble or quadruple in no time.

Both will do well.

[nicky21] 12/7/2018 19:01

1 credit card and 2 loans was heavily doing spreadbetting last year.i need a 10/20 baggar and Copl fits my criteria.i cannot wait 24 months here.this will go up to over a £ easily.good stock this is to be in.
but if Copl gets approval and drilling started 0.5p will be history in no time.

jdunning12 Jul '18 - 18:37 - 3830 of 3831
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To go all in on a single stock is foolish! Don't suppose your 18k debt are credit card debts which you've used to by stocks and shares

[jdunning] 12/7/2018 18:37

To go all in on a single stock is foolish! Don't suppose your 18k debt are credit card debts which you've used to by stocks and shares?

[nicky21] 12/7/2018 18:27

am not Topinfo

get your facts right.

am all in COPL now.

[grahamwales] 12/7/2018 15:20

Cheers Mac. I take you have all this info. Any chance of posting it

[the big fella] 12/7/2018 14:55

nick21 - clearly a wind up merchant? Filtered.

[nicky21] 12/7/2018 14:47

thanks mac thats why i sold and switched into copl.

[bmcb5] 12/7/2018 14:44

Thanks mac. Always keen to understand the bear case for any stock i own - even if it is just a punt.

[macthepak] 12/7/2018 14:35

My post 3471 on the 29.06.2018, no one commented on it. It read:

"What you guys need to do is concentrate on current info.

So instead of posting old links to old information, why not contact the relevant CCG's with which Vocare has contracts and get up to date information how Vocare are performing.

For example, there will be targets, are Vocare meeting these targets, what interim payments have been paid to Vocare, if Vocare have not met their targets have they had to be pay penalties, if they have exceeded their targets did they get bonus payments??

All this information can be obtained under the freedom of information for public bodies.

With this information you can judge for yourselves how Vocare are performing, or if it just another dudd?"

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Since the publication of the results all this talk of increasing profits and revenues etc are all pie in the sky. Why?

91% of current revenue is earned by Vocare and this number will fall because:

1. Vocare are continually being hit with increasing contractual KPI penalties by the CCG's and contracting bodies.
2. Failure to retain trained 111 staff.
3. Increasing cost of further recruitment and training. Just check nhs jobs website many posts unfilled.
4. Increasing use of agency staff.

Current market price is around £14 million which is a fair price as many of the contracts Vocare will not make any money but will end up shelling money out.

[jdunning] 12/7/2018 14:23

Copl is class as junk stock..

[bmcb5] 12/7/2018 14:15

nicky2112 Jul '18 - 14:12 - 3819 of 3819 (Filtered)

that's better