Tinopolis Share Discussion Threads

[wiganer] 20/2/2006 12:58

"Even if this share went down to 1p (which it might) I still wouldn't buy it."

In which case pythian, it seems odd that you indicate yourself to be happy to hold shares at 29p.

Perhaps you can explain why this is a hold, but wouldn't be a buy at 1p.

[gurp] 20/2/2006 12:39

pythian - very well reasoned arguments - appreciated by all underneath, I'm sure :-)
just one query - if tin is so bad & going down to 5p (nay even might be 1p), why are you still holding?

[pythian] 20/2/2006 01:08

Exactly,TT2, excellent post. The Tinpot people have been guilty of the same crime as Mach10, namely arrogance. Why get rid of the key TCP people, useless as they might have been, who got all the important commissions?

Could Mach10, who obviously knows everything (nothing), please tell us how much chairman Ron (ex Arthur Andersen!) Jones paid for his 7 million+ shares and how much the presenter totty paid for her 2 million+ shares. I have a feeling that it was far less than what Mach, I, or any other punter paid. And who is this man Clynog Davies who owns 2million+ and how did he obtain them?

And don't be silly machio. Even if this share went down to 1p (which it might) I still wouldn't buy it.

[mach10] 19/2/2006 21:04

Thank you Lyndus. Actually I only wish you would flesh out your reasoning. Why do you think it might fall to 20p? I'm hoping 26p is the bottom. I often find
acquisitions cause a drag on the share price This is probably my main concern. I don't think many TV corp investors will be selling. I think they'll try and hold on for recovery. The sell column should be interesting for the next week.

[lyndus] 19/2/2006 20:18

Don't think we will see 5p or 6p.Thhis kind of talk
doen't help any genuine investor.Maybe they will fall to 20p
short term but no more.

[mach10] 19/2/2006 18:19

Kepp digging Pythian, you're getting more amusing by the minute. I also own shares in this company. I think they have got TV corporation on the cheap- a sign of good management in this particular instance. The directors are putting their money where their mouth is despite your claims that there were no directors buying."None of the directors could afford that kind of money, those, that is, who are not in jail." pythian post 92 of 107. I see you conveniently have avoided mention of this despite being exposed for your lies or is it ignorance?

I too have never shorted a company. I have never said to anyone buy this company but I have tried to call the bottom at 26p bid. I also said the market will decide in the end. If I thought they were so poorly managed I would sell and move on.
You have tried UNSUCCESSFULLY to talk the price down to 5-6p yet you now claim to be a holder. Does this not smell of dishonesty? Perhaps you'd like to get some (more?) cheaply. Unlike you I have no problem with contrarian views. The market will decide as I said before, not you.

[scotswhaehae] 19/2/2006 17:19

What EPS DO U PROJECT PYTHIAN...THAT'S THE KEY..THE REST IS SOUR GRAPES...

These are very cheap on fundamentals!

Great stuff!

[pythian] 19/2/2006 12:37

I own shares, alas, in this company, recently so poorly managed.

I have never shorted any company.

I intervene because it is actually not in the interests of HONEST shareholders to have people like mach10 attempt so blatantly and indeed so UNSUCCESSFULLY to talk up the shares.

It is clear that there is something rather odd going on here. Most BB bully-boys who will not tolerate anyone taking an opposite, well-argued, view give up when they're rumbled. Mach10, though thoroughly exposed, is remarkably persistent.

[mach10] 19/2/2006 08:57

Lmfao pythian. You are getting more and more desperate! I personally suspect it could be a director buy. However I have no evidence for this unless and until an RNS comes out. This was pure speculation on my behalf. I haven't asked anyone to buy or said this will fly so any ramping accusations are laughable unlike attempts to deramp down to 5-6p- PMSL.
As regards the 29.5p I'll let you answer your own question as you don't seem to answer others. If a seller gets 29p.5p when the spread is 26-30 is that good news for holders- yes or no? If it was a buy is the news that bought about 80k of shares at that price good or bad for shareholders?
You seem to know all about evading questions. You have not declared your position in this company. Again I politely asked you to do so. Is your short hurting you that much that you can't declare it?

[torquay turk2] 19/2/2006 08:19

Morning Humph.

[the air marshall] 19/2/2006 00:04

You've nailed Macho good and proper, Pythian. Well done. I hope we've heard the last of his ramping. It certainly doesn't help us honest retail punters to hear him try to talk the share price up in that ridiculous fashion.

[pythian] 18/2/2006 23:50

Let's settle this business once and for all, Macho, shall we?.

In your post 91 you say:

"Woozel someone was happy to pay 32p today for 50k so they're not buying your theory.This may I suspect be a director. Furthermore if you check the trades there was either a delayed (disguised) buy of 29.5p or else a seller got that for his stock. Either way is good for holders. TIN is now up almost 8% in 2 days"


That paragraph is essentially dishonest and designed to mislead.

You said it was "good for holders". That must mean the BID price.

I asked what evidence you had for suspecting that particular buy was made by a director. You have ignored that question. That's because you were lying.

I am more and more convinced that you have some connection with the company. If that is the case, well, I would not recommend that anybody buys the share.

[pythian] 18/2/2006 23:16

You've been caught out trying, albeit pretty unsucessfully, to be some sort of a huckster, Mach10. I don't suppose anyone but the other thickos are taken in by your attempts to domineer and maintain that black is white. I'm sure that I'm wasting my time pointing out your patent dishonesty. Most thick people will resort to shouting when they are caught fibbing.

For all I know you may well be connected to the company in some way. If you are, your shares are worth half what they were in the summer. They will be worth even less before long. I don't suppose you can make a lot of money as a management when you spend the whole night lying face down in a field! It's all pretty rum, I would say.

[mach10] 18/2/2006 18:32

pythian you really are a plank. First you say my maths are wrong, now you try to wriggle and talk about the bid price. I never mentioned the bid price and never claimed anyone would have made a profit. I said the price has increased by 8% and you said my maths were wrong. I have also given you the evidence for director buying. It seems not only can you not read RNS's, you can't even read a BB. I think your irrelevant asides are your way of padding out your posts.
Anyhow I have said what my position is, why don't u declare you are short on this and we can let the market judge.

[scotswhaehae] 18/2/2006 17:09

Concentrate on the fundamentals guys...this now has a very cheap forward PER and value will win in the end!

Noise from jealous types/shorters/observors who dare not participate (eg python) is always loudest at the turning point as they see events drifting away from them!

Good luck to all real investors...and ignore the above idiots!

[biswell] 18/2/2006 15:51

Mmmm


Don't think he like it much

B

[pythian] 18/2/2006 15:26

Mach10's post includes these sentences: "Thanks anyway for the arithmetio lecture. Do you have a spell-check?" Umm, what?

The thickos come streaming out of the woodwork led once again by the stumbling, stuttering Mach10, the most stupid ever.

Just look, o ignorant one, at what really happened during the two days you mention. The bid price remained exactly the same on both days i.e.26p. It's the spread that increased, thicko. If you held Tinpot shares you would not be a farthing richer at the end of the two days.

Mach10 is also trying to mislead everybody, in his cack-handed blustering, by suggesting that it was the directors buying. What possible evidence is there for that?

By the way what is this strange word 'arithmetio' that you use? It sounds like a Welsh verb. It probably means 'to make ignorant mathematical errors'. Ah well, the empty tinpot makes the most noise as my granny always said

[sat69] 18/2/2006 11:07

Hi Mach,

Thx for the posts: -

1. The Directors ARE buying PYTHON (note the name change guys). Surely even you aren't saying the rns statements are incorect?

2. In fairness, although I cannot disagree with your 'near 8% gain in 2 days' statement, the fact remains the Bid price has not budged an iota, and is stuck at 26p. However, I can certainly see this moving, as early as Monday, when online portfolios will have their TCP holdings amended showing them to be TIN shareholders. Hopefully, these new TIN shareholders will decide this is a bottom for the share price and decide to top up! Further, the last few days has seen good buying activity, but the mm's have responded by raising only the Offer price.

3. My price target? That's a tough one. I won't be selling below 40p (Unless I top up to reduce my break-even price). I'm quite happy to sit it out, but I cannot see this going any lower from here. I expect it will hit the 40p level by end May 06! There you go, my target in a nutshell!

4. PYTHON...GET STUFFED (Like the pun guys?!)

[Abuse team] 18/2/2006 05:40

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[pythian] 18/2/2006 01:23

Here is the answer to one of my questions above. An excerpt from a BBC news item:

"Accountancy firm Arthur Andersen is convicted of obstructing justice, and now pledges to stop auditing publicly traded firms."

[pythian] 18/2/2006 01:20

Well, well. It happens all the time on these threads. Intelligent people make considered posts and the thickos come out in droves to make stupid statements. Mach10 your arithmetic is utterly pathetic. 'Up 8% in 2 days'? A seven-year-old could do better than that.

A director buy? You must be joking. None of the directors could afford that kind of money, those, that is, who are not in jail.

The chairman was a partner at Arthur Andersen was he? I wonder what in the world happened to that firm? Perhaps you can also tell me why?

By the way it's years since I was in Machynlleth: is it still as boring as ever?

[mach10] 17/2/2006 22:41

Sat ur doing a great job there flying the flag. Mind if I weigh in? Hope the others don't mind I'm only a holder after all.LMFAO at Pythian. I don't mind a paper-ThIN argument but that was positively transparent. It was so bad a deramp I'm actuallY thinking of buying more. Woozel someone was happy to pay 32p today for 50k so they're not buying your theory.This may I suspect be a director. Furthermore if you check the trades there was either a delayed (disguised) buy of 29.5p or else a seller got that for his stock. Either way is good for holders. TIN is now up almost 8% in 2 days. I agree the spread is a killer but the MM's will have to narrow that if they want trade. Anyway I was in at 28.5p, saw a director was happy to pay 32p and am looking for 36p. Sat, u got any target price?

[sat69] 17/2/2006 13:36

Woozle, The mms are just not wanting too much action at the moment until it becomes clearer which way the action is going to be. However, It is unlikely you will pay 32p for under 50k shares...probably 31p, or even 30p

Go on...have a try....Just put in a limit price for 30p and tell me what happened!

sat