Symphony Environmental T... Share Discussion Threads

[robertnash2] 11/9/2014 21:31

bbd2 it takes an honest person to say they were wrong.......I hope you are happy,
however it does not change anything. I am sure the BoD know exactly what I am saying. Good night off on holiday. Hopefully the results will be encouraging.

[bbd2] 11/9/2014 20:29

You are funny Robert, I will give you that. You have told this board for as long as I can remember (sadly many years) that your agreement is about to expire, or when it expires you will do this or that... etc.

A good example below from 2012 !

robertnash2 - 26 Jul 2012 - 08:57:24 - 3344 of 4543
Myview many congratulations on summing up the company so well. I am sure a large majority of the bloggers actually work at the company. Let's review their list of distributors on their website....... The flags of all the countries in the world. One only has to look at competitors websites and they list individual agents/distributors. The day is soon approaching that I will not be tied by the compromise agreement at which time I will shed some light commencing from 2007.

[anne69] 11/9/2014 18:14

Why does this negative chat always happen every time the share price moves (or starts to show signs of moving) upwards?

Ax

[robertnash2] 11/9/2014 17:04

bbd2 obviously you know nothing about "Compromise Agreements". May I suggest you do your own research, when you have I would expect a retraction of the word "FAKE". One thing I do know is that I do not hide behind any assumed name as some of you.

[begorrah88] 11/9/2014 16:09

bbd2

World of difference between what the average investor believes 'could bring down the board in a flash' and what actually does.

The regulator has a very different interpretation of unsavoury practice - his is more governed by the wrokload it would generate for him than any altruistic reasons.

I know nothing of robertnash2 other than what I read in his posts and as to whether he is or isn't a past director does not carry any weight with me. His points that he raises within his posts do though.

The day to day life of running a listed company is nothing like the professional, well managed and tightly regulated, environment we would like to consider it to be and I can certainly believe that ex directors post on boards and even current directors may do.

Covenants restricting ex-employees can be permanent and binding subject to what was drawn up by the company legal teams at the time. There is usually some leverage to ensure such covenants are not broken.

I made no assumptions about you. I made no reference to you being in a losing position - my comments related to the dream, not your +/- position.

I'd prefer it if you based your comments on what is actually in my posts rather than something you have projected on to me as a result of me having a different view point to yours.

Still didn't get an answer as to why TB was never challenged about all his blatant ramping and yet anyone that questions the merits of the BoD gets hounded?

[bbd2] 11/9/2014 15:20

LOL. But all too predictable from you both I am afraid. Begorrah you make a very simple error in assuming that I am one of the few here who are holding shares from pre management strategy change days and sitting on a large loss. Luckily, I am not one of those unfortunate people, although I have some sympathy with them. As for Robert, he has already been exposed as a fake some time ago on here. Do you really think any Director worth his salt would be posting on a free BB trying to convince members that he has secret and juicy information that could bring down the board in a flash should he tell us !!! Come on Begorrah, I can't believe for one moment you are that naïve, you seem quite lucid when you are in reflective mode. No doubt Robert will come and tell us that " if only he could blab he would but unfortunately he is bound by a confidentiality agreement" -how convenient and it must have been one of the longest agreements ever made if true.

[robertnash2] 11/9/2014 13:23

Begorrah88 well put. If this company had a professional city Chairman and vice chairman as Chris Littmoden was, none of these shenanigans would have been tolerated. What do Politicos know about running a business we only have to look back at the TV programme about UK Euro MPs. They should be retired (without a fat cheque) and make room for a professional board.

[begorrah88] 11/9/2014 08:55

I'm more inclined to believe bbd2 is in denial and has nailed his colours to the mast and is prepared to go down with the ship.

Many of us have been down that road where we have let our hearts rule our heads and not wanted to let go of a dream we have sold ourselves [the BoD will have played a part in that though]but have eventually had to accept that we've been 'had' and the whole purpose of the business was to generate a continuous income stream, by way of fund raising etc, to enable the employees and directors to maintain their ego fuelled standards of living.

There are only so many times you can keep giving the benefit of the doubt for failure before you have to realise that it is endemic and isn't about to change.

[robertnash2] 11/9/2014 08:15

begorrah88 maybe bbd2 is best friend's with the BoD or even works for the "Firm"
I rest my case and will re-iterate that I have moved on and have no bitterness towards this overpaid BoD. They really have not achieved that much and without the distributors they would not have survived IMHO. Too much hype and jam tomorrow.

[begorrah88] 11/9/2014 08:03

bbd2

Thanks for your unemotional response.

It seems that you want to return on your investment but are happy to sit back and watch that fail to happen and don't want to establish why.

You suggest your posts are not a defence of SYM[!] so that leaves the question open of whether it is just a vendetta against anyone [I include myself in that as my first post on this thread was querying some of 'totally bonkers' claims and you jumped down my throat to defend him regardless of the absence of any substance to his posts] that raises a concern.

I have not seen you post any concerns other than people having the temerity to criticise the board and you made no effort to rein in any of TB's ramping, in fact you endorsed his ramping, so that undermines your 'A Bear's bite is as bad as a Bull's adrenalin rush' defence.

No, I have to conclude that you just don't want to have to read uncomfortable posts that raise genuine concerns.

What I don't know is why.

[neilrr] 10/9/2014 20:57

How much profit has SYM made since 2002?

How much has been paid in dividends since 2002?

What was the shareprice in 2002?

[robertnash2] 10/9/2014 20:38

bbd2 I can assure you there are no scores to settle. I am sure you would agree £8m is excessive.

[bbd2] 10/9/2014 20:09

Have a read of my recent posts again Begorrah. Where do I defend Sym? I am simply ensuring that Roberts attempt to scare a few people with inaccurate information ( I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he did not knowingly attempt to deceive this BB)is not misunderstood. A Bear's bite is as bad as a Bull's adrenalin rush - don't you agree? Lets allow the facts to move this share and not someone with a hidden agenda and a large chip on their shoulder. For the record, I am currently just as frustrated as any genuine Investor here in that I want the share price higher, but unlike Robert, I am here to make money and not settle old scores. Presumably, you want the same thing?

[robertnash2] 10/9/2014 10:49

begorh88 and neilrr thank you both for the comments. SYM have a phrase "Caring for the Environment" which in actual fact should be changed to "Caring for our Board".
The company if I am correct joined the AIM market in 2002 during which time the board have taken emoluments of £8,159,000 which works out at circa £680,000 per annum over the period. There are a number of profitable AIM listed companies who BoDs take substantially less. It is really quite unacceptable imho

[neilrr] 10/9/2014 09:05

SYM has been a shareholder funded ATM for Laurier, his family & the BoD for the last decade+.

[robertnash2] 05/9/2014 18:16

bbd2 I am who I say I am one of the few using my own name, I am perfectly entitled to voice my opinion as a shareholder and ex Managing Director of a subsidiary company. Did I mention FSA rules?.......No! I can assure you no bitterness I just like transparency as simple as that. Have a wonderful weekend.

[bbd2] 05/9/2014 18:06

robertnash2

5 Sep'14 - 17:56 - 4526 of 4526 0 0


neilrr we all know Sym directors have their own rules. If I am challenged i can prove it!



Robert, A simple "whoops I am made a mistake on that one" was all that was required from you. Instead you now seem to be digging a bigger hole for yourself by stating publically that you have evidence that the SYM Directors have broken the very strict FSA rules. You are either very stupid, very bitter or not who you say you are.

[robertnash2] 05/9/2014 17:56

neilrr we all know Sym directors have their own rules. If I am challenged i can prove it!

[bbd2] 05/9/2014 17:41

Yes no problem. There are strict rules about when a Director can purchase shares for good reason. If a Company is about to release news that has the potential to increase the share price, a Director of that Company would not be able to purchase shares before the release, as to do so would be considered insider dealing ( he would have taken advantage of inside knowledge to purchase shares at a price lower than the market will value them at once the news is released). If a Director had been allowed to purchase shares by the Nomad it would indicate that there is no news about to be released that could effect market price.

[neilrr] 05/9/2014 17:12

bbd2
5 Sep'14 - 16:34 - 4523 of 4523 0 0

As you well know, a Director Purchase at this time would be significant and not welcome.

You'll have to explain that one for me bbd2.

[bbd2] 05/9/2014 16:34

It's definitely not SYM, it relates to Symphony International. As you well know, a Director Purchase at this time would be significant and not welcome. Good scare effort though !!!

[robertnash2] 05/9/2014 16:29

bbd2 possibly I thought it made interesting reading inview of the imminent announcement.

[robertnash2] 05/9/2014 16:27

Inventor: Kenneth William Jones!!!??? Was this not part of "The RuPERT Project"???
Will have to check with the Technology Strategy Board to get further details.

Publication number WO2014013233 A1
Publication type Application
Application number PCT/GB2013/051880
Publication date Jan 23, 2014
Filing date Jul 15, 2013
Priority date Jul 16, 2012
Inventors Kenneth William Jones
Applicant Symphony Recycling Technologies Ltd.
Export Citation BiBTeX, EndNote, RefMan
Patent Citations (6), Classifications (6), Legal Events (1)
External Links: Patentscope, Espacenet

[bbd2] 05/9/2014 16:25

Different company I think Robert I think they have used the wrong ticker:

hxxp://www.morningstar.co.uk/uk/news/AN_1409837467053240100/director-dealings-symphony-international-directors-buy-840000-shares.aspx