Strat Aero Share Discussion Threads

[andy] 03/10/2016 09:52

Byg D,

" It has dropped back due to uncertainty and hype but there's nothing left of the big issues to come that could be a cause of concern to investors."


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Err, hype means promotion, so if it's dropped back as a result of "hype", they really are in trouble!


No Big issues left?

Have management sold out already? :-)

[andy] 03/10/2016 09:50

byg D,

"Already the chances of another extreme low is doubtful and even SA did not expect the lows experienced if you read the RNS."


Whereas I think the chances of another extreme low are very likely!

I think they will struggle to get another, much larger placing away personally, and I think many that participated last time will be surprised about them conceding the court case after their previous "without merit statements" in respect of HS claims!

And as for raising at a "premium", you are kidding, right?

[pilotov] 03/10/2016 09:32

You are very selective Dennis in your observations. Yes, the "sector" is expanding in certain areas particularly military and parcel delivery. But SA isn't the sector, or even a leader in it as you keep suggesting. It's a heavily loss making and indebted corner of the industry. 4 million loss last year, and already 2 million down this year - one awful lot of revenue will be needed to stem those losses. One 100K contract and one @ 2.5M over 10 years just is not enough is it? It's all very well talking on about a "package of services" - yes, they may be available but they're just not selling in any quantity. As for "missing out" on recent spikes - the price is still only a tiny fraction of its face and launch values and there's tons of room for profit if things improve. However, I do understand that you personally see something in SA that the market, and most contributors here, just do not. You're in a "group" of 1, maybe 2! But I do wish you luck in recovering your losses.

[kemche] 03/10/2016 09:31

BygD, "In fact it could be a a premium" (sic).

If that comes to pass then I shall eat my hat. Then your's. Followed by everyone else's.

Pure comedy gold!

[bygdennis] 03/10/2016 09:16

Of course good entry point is essential but do you think those who have already researched and seen the progress since the drop will give theirs up?
The only way is to be encouraged to do so with some news that would make them think twice, Already the chances of another extreme low is doubtful and even SA did not expect the lows experienced if you read the RNS.
If expected news is good then there is a risk you lot will be left to consider what could have been as has happened three times already, It has dropped back due to uncertainty and hype but there's nothing left of the big issues to come that could be a cause of concern to investors.
A possible fund raise could come soon but it's doubtful also it would be at the bargain price we saw last time, It was as said heavily discounted, In fact it could be a a premium as contracts have been signed and news of other work is good. The RNS also tells us progress is being made on further contracts within the package of services SA have in place.
It's not a matter of just watching SA's progress but this sector as a whole, Sa are a leader in it and proven to have what is required at the highest level so it is doubtful they will lose out to lesser services on offer, These things are worth considering rather than looking at the past.
SA is up and running now and in a better position than ever as this sector also expanding in a very big way.

[ionlypostafterbbms] 03/10/2016 09:05

Judging by his posts I think that ship has already sailed. He's buried here.

[cliley454] 03/10/2016 03:34

I've been researching these for a while and am looking for an entry point. The next placing will provide it IMHO.
Off topic take a look at ENGI. I posted some info on the BB.

[rogthepodge] 03/10/2016 01:11

once a market manipulator...............

in my opinion,

based on watching you and your previous incarnations, for some time

[ionlypostafterbbms] 03/10/2016 00:28

Once a mug, always a mug.

[andy] 02/10/2016 21:41

Btg D,

" You've never had anything to say about the future or the progress made! Have you? If there is funding what will it be for? to finance further progress of course you silly group,"

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That's because, unlike you, I don't see any substantial progress being made, and I perceive them to be cashflow negative, on a monthly basis.

What will the funding be for?

I reckon wages, and general expenses, as they are losing money each month, even after all the "good news" you keep talking about but most of us can't see.

What are the margins on their contracts, do you know?

[ionlypostafterbbms] 02/10/2016 18:50

We KNOW you are! With every post you confirm you are a nutcase.

Tell me stalker mug, what is it you need, a 1500% or 2000% recovery to JUST break even on SGH?

LOL.

GLWTS.

Mug, why do you hate TW so much when HE TOLD EVERYONE ABOUT A MILLION TIMES that QPP & SGH were bargepole stocks? FFS, he warned you to avoid them umpteen times!

Mug.

[rogthepodge] 02/10/2016 18:31

I can afford to be, but I don't think that I am

I believe that Slater and Gordon will recover strongly, as Helphire did after it was attacked by the likes of Simon Cawkwell, who I suspect encouraged Lucian to attack Quindell. Helphire is now Redde, and has had a stonking recovery in the last few years.

I believe that SGH could also have a strong recovery. Very similar business models.
Once cashflow is cracked, bingo!

DYOR obviously, and watch out for the sharks infesting these boards pretending to be many by using multiple aliases, and even those impersonating genuine posters by altering one letter or case in their name. Dishonest scumbags. The FCA should come down like a ton of bricks on those committing this market manipulation.

[ionlypostafterbbms] 02/10/2016 18:10

LOL!

Mug.

[rogthepodge] 02/10/2016 17:54

'IOPABBM' I thought Slater and Gordon were 38cents not 20, but I can't believe that you would try to spin this to sound worse than it is

they will recover, and certainly they did not go bust by last June, as Winnifred guaranteed last fall. The man is a liability.

[bygdennis] 02/10/2016 17:29

Andy! bgydennis is you lot! not me! As i said the only support you have is yourselves, Like i said you are finished here and going without any credit.

You imagine much too! If you read the RNS Hulsey is Chief executive officer of AK, What does this tell you Andy, He is part of SA?,
If you ever read anything it's was what he wanted in the first place, You need all think of other ways to bring doubts, You've never had anything to say about the future or the progress made! Have you?

If there is funding what will it be for? to finance further progress of course you silly group,
New business will need to be accommodated which tells you to watch the news, Also at what price would the funding be at? We'll have to see what business gains there are before we discuss this,
Investors will accept on whats on offer and it looks like it could be considerably more than it is now!! You lot can wait as long as you like whining about the past but do you really think you'll get a better entry point? You missed three times so how many more do you think you'll get?

[kemche] 02/10/2016 16:46

BygD, Will they need to raise more funds imminently?

Just a "yes" or "no" will suffice.

[andy] 02/10/2016 15:32

Byg D,

Shame. Last night I thought you'd seen the light, but today back repeating the same stuff once again.

In case you haven;t noticed, the shareprice is falling, so why would anyone in "the group" be "crying" (apart from any holders of course!)

Sadlyn people like yourself swallow the company story, and pay no attention to how the markets actually work.

HS had to take shares as part of the deal as they probably don't have the cash to pay him the full amount!

And how much money do you think the action you said "had no merit" has cost Aero? Go on, hazard a guess.

I imagine they have paid their own costs, HS's costs, plus $75k settlement in cash,and a bunch of shares that has diluted shareholders 11%!

And you see only good news!

I see a company needing another placing PDQ, and at what price can they raise those funds? I wonder how many that participated last time on the basis that HS's case "had no merit" will rush back in again after the capitulation?

The problem isn't that the company cannot execute their plan dronewise, it's all about the finances, or in Aero's case, the lack of them.........

[bygdennis] 02/10/2016 14:33

All this talk about how shares work and how some through various devices lead others into a way of thinking is really only mind games! they have been and still are being played here by the same group who have overseen a decline since the problems with the acquisition of AK took place and the events since. They have underestimated what SA have in place and missed the chance at the lowest entry point, Obviously crying about it and doing their best to predict it lower again.
There is no reason to believe any of it, There are many reasons not to.
Now things are much improved IF those interested in this sector and the Billions over the next few years it will gain, SA being a leader in it and have in place a package of services proved to be the best available if recent contract wins and many other things are checked, they show there is much on offer here, everything now looks very positive, problems solved and all concerned seem happy enough to continue building into the future,
Both SA and Hulsey Smith have a great knowledge of this sector and have agreed to move on. Read the RNS of settlement properly.
Considering what is now in place It would be doubtful there will be future friction between the two parties, (Now again one) they seem to be both very ambitious and forward looking, Why would they now take a backward step?
There is so much to look forward to, SA are winning contracts and Hulsey has his share and a big say in the future of this fast growing sector.
Probably many have no real idea what has gone on and rely on others on threads like this to guide them. Advice!, DON'T
No need for guidance at all, Check things out for yourselves, Everything is as far as it goes, sorted, and a new era has begun, The reliable news confirms this technology has happened and growth is to be massive. No need take anyone's guesses, views or advice as what isn't, It's what is that matters, Business is business, If there is progression and the outlook valid then surely it will get much better, If so why would there be any decline?

[rogthepodge] 02/10/2016 13:12

'Andy's little helper 'IOPABBM' rides to the rescue

possibly the same chap