Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Stilo Intl LSE:STL London Ordinary Share GB0009597484 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 4.625p 4.25p 5.00p 4.625p 4.625p 4.625p 0 07:55:22
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Software & Computer Services 1.8 0.3 0.3 15.9 5.27

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04/10/2017
09:09
Well done for that!! Well spotted!!! I take my hat off to you!!........But I think you're at it yet again!!!! I think you're doing what you normally do!! You're again giving misleading information. These kind of job descriptions have been part of Stilo's recruitment for years. With Migrate Dita before, which has been about for 10 years now, job descriptions were similar and had a requirement to scale a deployment for a large number of users. Stilo always hoped to scale "on a large scale with customers" with their Migrate Dita service but to date they have never been able to do so, hence the development of other tools that they now want to bring out. Lets not for get this is still a small market that will continue to grow on a small scale. It will definitely grow but very slowly as Stilo has been able to demonstrate for the last 20 years or so. That really is an absolute, incredible and fantastic good find within these jobs and really does break the job specifics down in some detail. I have actually been looking at Stilo's website quite regularly and to my knowledge the 2 jobs currently being advertised have been there since February 2017! It would appear that is taking Stilo quite some time to get the right staff to take up these positions. In terms of Omnimark maintenance revenues it has taken nearly a couple of decades to reach these levels. 20 years to get Omnimark revenues to the current levels of around £900,000. In terms of Migrate revenues these are only around the few hundred thousand mark and they too have taken some 10 years to reach these levels after a tremendous amount on hard work and effort from management. Bearing in mind that Migrate is their star product. Their baby!! Let's not forget that Migrate revenues have only reached these levels after years and years of "incremental enhancements". These enhancements, as we all know, have taken and will continue to take years rather than months. Like Stilo management has said many, many times before "incremental development of AuthorBridge and Migrate". As we all.... "incremental development takes years and not weeks or months" I think the question that is on everybody's mind is "when will Author Bridge start to contribute to the bottom line?" They have stated in their annual reports that they started developing it in 2014 with IBM. 2 years later in 2016 it was put onto IBMs systems and was also put into the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. A further year later Author Bridge was available as a trial version around March 2017. So, since developing Author Bridge since 2014 by March 2017 they have only managed to get it onto 2 clients books in a very small way. This clearly demonstrates the incredibly difficult, time consuming and very, very slow processes involved in software of this nature. These kind of tools take several years to develop, improve, master, promote, market and then to get some bucks for. Stilo have also said that they still need to do even more work to get it ready which clearly is taking a lot, lot longer than what Stilo management was hoping. I think everybody was expecting to see Stilo complete all this work by now and have Author Bridge up and running but they haven't. When the work will be completed and signed off for the next stage we can only guess. Not forgetting, again, that they have been developing Author Bridge since 2014 and if it still is not ready by the end of this year then it would actually mean they have been developing Author Bridge since 2014......3 long, time consuming,, slow years. Those 2 jobs have been advertised on the Stilo website for over 8 months now. They too have said that the Migrate Jats service is going to be "incremental" just like Migrate Dita. Migrate Dita, with where it is now, has taken around 10 years to get here. Over the years they have added things like XML/SGML/HTML, FrameMaker, Word, AuthorIT, InDesign, RoboHelp and DocBook to Migrate. These additions have taken years and years and years of hard work and this has been a very, very, very, very slow process. Again, when Stilo management refer to "incremental enhancements"...this is exactly and precisely what they are referring to. This is what they mean by "incremental enhancements !!!!!!!" I really do think that it is still going to take a considerable amount of time before we see a meaningful difference to the bottom line. I am not being negative here.......simply realistic!!!! I am in this for the very long term and with no further announcements expected until their year end in March 2018; difficulties filling those jobs; huge delays with Author Bridge with it still not being ready; incremental changes to the new Jats service for which customers will come on slowly, I believe time is the most important factor. Time is what we all have to factor in and factor in in "spade fulls!!!!" Deliver they will but it is taking a tremendous amount of time. Let's not forget it has now been nearly 4 years since work on Author Bridge began and they have stated that it still needs a lot more work to be done. After the work is done and during this time management still need to continue marketing it. The long haul is in the making unless Stilo can make some major and immediate progress but as we all know these complicated and intricate software products take masses of time like Omnimark and Migrate Dita before. They take years and not months. Already they have been working on Author Bridge since 2014, only have 2 small agreements with 2 companies, whilst recently stating that they still need to do more work to it as it still is not ready. So, already 4 years have gone by and no meaningful revenues have been generated. This share really is for the long term investor and there are many of these within these boards who have been waiting for decades. Quite a lot of very long term investors here who have been waiting anything up to 15 to 20 years to date. That is some waiting!!!!!!! In closing, we all know Stilo will get it right at some stage. Like everyone who has been a long standing investor knows only too well its a question of when they will get it right. Its about the timing. No doubt the wait will continue. How long that wait will be is the million dollar question. Investors have been waiting up to 15 to 20 years and they are still waiting!!! The waiting continues!!!!!!!! Will it be 2018? Will it be 2019? Or, will it be 2020? ....................................Or, will it be longer!!!!!!
stilolosses
04/10/2017
08:23
One of two jobs currently being advertised by Stilo,that of Full-stack Developer,has an interesting range of parameters,imo. "Responsibilities  Integrate AuthorBridge with a variety of 3rd party repositories (VCS and CCMS, proprietary and open source).  Design and implement backend functionality as needed. For example, - user accounts with permissions and roles, - licensing, - collaboration features.  Scale a deployment for a large number of users.  Support cloud-based and onsite implementations.  Implement client-side functionality of AuthorBridge in java script, with the focus being more on the algorithmic aspects than on presentational ones." Way to go !
mudbath
01/10/2017
09:10
A "Investors being overly bullish"............Totally agree there! Over the years there have certainly been certain posters who year in, year out have continued to generate completely unacceptable and ill-founded and completely false and untrue expectations about the imminent and short-term success of the company which to date have never materialised. Posters falsely making claims that something is about to happen year in, year out. That certainly has not helped. Totally agree that this has kept some investors away but whether those investors who were going to invest large stakes is questionable. Those who want to invest large stakes normally do a lot of due diligence and do not invest lightly. Apart from a couple of large holders Stilo don't have any other large investors. I don't think it's a great deal to do with what people say on the boards but its with how those investors do their due diligence, and, of course, when they look at the current, previous and forward thinking of a company, they think to themselves about how much money they can make from their investment and how quickly. If they believe that they can buy a large stake and then offload it quickly and make a quick buck, then they often go with that. But if they see that this is not possible then they clearly stay away as has been the case with Stilo over the years. I certainly don't see that changing any time soon. I certainly do not see any large investor coming to but Stilo any time soon. B "Company plods on"............Well that is certainly what Stilo has clearly demonstrated over the last 15 or 20 years. It has certainly plodded on! In certain ways I think this has not been as bad as it sounds. Stilo has got to where it is now after a tremendous amount of hard work and effort over the years. Financially, they are absolutely fine. Course, they could have been where they are now in terms of revenues and profits and world leading products with a lot of debt but there not. They have no debt. The only thing I think that has been out of their control is the size of the market that they operate in. It's a very, very, very, very niche market and this has clearly shown in terms of revenues and profits over the years. As most of us know their products and world leaders but to date they are still knocking on the doors in order to increase revenues and profits to the next level. Admittedly, they have been doing this for years. I think this will happen and its just matter of when it will happen with their new products. C "Publicity shy company, relatively unknown"................ I am going to totally disagree there. If you look in detail at their website you will see all the world's leading events that they attend throughout their sector, throughout the year. Year in, year out! You will see that not only do they attend all of these events and put themselves in directly in front of a huge, massive amount of their potential customers, but they are nearly always one of the premier sponsors sponsoring these events alongside other sponsors. In terms of publicity, they need to go directly in front of their customers and they have been doing exactly that for years. They are always at the most important, significant world leading Dita events around the world. These events are the most prestigious events and as well as attending these and being one of the premier sponsors, I don't think they can do any other cost effective publicity. They have been doing the right publicity directly to their potential customers for years now. The only problem they have is that they are in a complete niche market. D "Investors dont really understand product , what it does or market".................You are absolutely right there. Stilo operates in not only a niche market but in a market that is difficult for the mainstream investors to get their heads around. E) wrong strategy re dividend"................If you look at Stilo's annual reports you will see that around 2011 or 2012 they said that they wanted to create long term shareholder value. For such a small company with revenues of around £1.5 to £2 million there was only a limited amount of ways in which they could do this. They would have sat down and thought about this in a very detailed way, bearing in mind that they probably wanted to remain debt free, keep investors on board whilst knowing that their revenues were going to remain around these levels. In the overall scheme of things they decided to pay dividends. I think this decision has served them well as they have managed to get the share price up from the lows of 1 pence to the current 4 and 5 pence level whilst growing their cash and product offerings. Paying even a small amount of dividend I feel is a way of keeping investors on board. Obviously, the company has no other tangible and viable option available to them. They have continued to invest very heavily in new products, continued to build their cash pile whilst marketing themselves, I feel, aggressively at all world leading Dita events. Not a lot more they can do really. Ultimately, lets not forget they are in a small niche market. What they have not done and should not do is just advertise and promote themselves just for the sake of it as we all know those marketing companies who will take millions off you and deliver nothing. Stilo have been very astute in marketing in only the areas that matter to them: Dita market specific world leading trade shows. Going forward, with their new products Jats and AuthorBridge, on top of Omnimark and Migrate, this will now open new doors for them. Admittedly, it has taken decades to get Omnimark and Migrate to where they are at the moment and only time will tell how quickly they will be able to generate that extra needed revenue. Hopefully sooner rather than later. In closing, one thing that I think helps all investors is that we no longer get posters making ill-founded, incorrect, misleading and false statements about Stilo's position.
stilolosses
30/9/2017
19:56
Why is the share price at current levels? A) BB Investors posts generally overly bullish and rose tinted - when potential investors casing the company see the idealistic dreams are not realised year after year , they are put off taking large stakes.ie over promising effect ceated vs under delivering! B) company plods along C) publicity shy company, relatively unknown D) investors dont really understand product , what it does or market. E) wrong strategy re dividend , investors dont expect a dividend from a growth company , and would rather it be retained in the company for such a small amount. It would be laughable if the company undertook a rights issue.
escapetohome
30/9/2017
07:27
Well...........I totally agree there! Naturally, I along with everybody else, was expecting the share price by now to be much higher. No good hiding from the fact that the share price is performing badly. I think about 18 months 2 years ago there was general consensus on this board that at the very, very minimum we were expecting the share price to hit at least 12 pence for starters. I can't hide the fact that I am disappointed that 2 years on this still has not happened but I have to say that it does not really affect me as I am in this for the very, very, very long term. Anyway, why do you think yourself that the share price is at its current levels? We all know it came down from its peak of around £1.30 some 15/20 years ago. As we all know it went down to the 1 pence mark around 6/7 years ago and about 12 months ago went up to the 7 pence mark before dropping back down to its current levels. I do think though that the only ones who need to worry are those who are in it for the short term and all those long term holders should simply sit back and enjoy the dividends.
stilolosses
29/9/2017
15:31
An unacceptable share price performance!
escapetohome
23/9/2017
08:26
What went wrong with you michael? I used to think you were a reasonable and informative person yet you keep getting involved in tedious slanging matches and attempts to trash other people's threads in the style of a particularly nasty and bad mannered gutter snipe. It's said a man's soul is exposed by his writing and you certainly weren't able to hide the nasty side of your character for long. I thought at one time you might be able to write about your favourite companies in a respected periodical in the manner of John Lee, but there's no chance of that now and 129 followers on your twitter account is a rather sad reflection on you given the effort you used to put into your blog. It was once informative but is now a vehicle for your bitter rants. You have no class and your twisted thinking has infected your investment choices. Given the number of people you've picked fights with I'd be surprised if you ever came out from hiding behind your user name.
gwr7
13/9/2017
14:08
Mouse, rejoice, it's up
lukead
01/9/2017
13:22
Where is the MOUSE these days, oh I know , he is keeping watch on the OPTI BB, so he can write some more rubbish.
lukead
24/8/2017
13:33
Don't let the tw troll diss you fella. Michaelmouses talks about experience or lack of. Laughable when you know his history from investing in frauds and so called growth companies that have to restate profit downwards, cooking books, he love em. Don't take my word for it. Michaelmouse invested in Avanti comms, it ceo committed fraud and boasted about it. INTQ committed fraud and his stupendous growth play TRAK had to restate its accounts after it was caught out with creative accounting practises. Now check the graphs of all of them. hTTps://uk.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=40851473
slartybartfaster
23/8/2017
14:11
According to my records,the STL Directors have been both modest and occasional where share options are concerned,with the last grant being way back in October 2015,at an exercise price within spitting distance of both the current and then share price. The conclusions which we draw in respect of this and any other company are both subjective and objective.I seek to benefit not only from my own research but also that of others,whose judgement I respect.It would not be within my remit though to instruct others as to how they should proceed. I look forward to standing under one end of the Stilo rainbow if and when the sun comes out.(as I remain confident that it will) Good luck at York firth.
mudbath
23/8/2017
12:01
In your case,I do not firth but it is best to DYOR research and not base investments/gambles on others recommendations in general, as I expect you will agree. For myself, I do not see such a rosy picture, as the directors have repeatedly rewarded themselves with stock while taking moderate salaries - this being a very tax efficient method of reaping longterm rich rewards that they can take when ready, which might be anytime of their choice, which could mean years away, and little true growth in the share price during that time, using the dividend to their own best effect imo.
clocktower
23/8/2017
11:24
I am very disappointed that you think I am that cynical Clocktower!!!!
firth
23/8/2017
11:23
Where is that well known ramping sad git M' Mouse these days?
lukead
23/8/2017
09:56
One often hears "Buy some more" from folks that want to Sell some more without suffering a price drop.
clocktower
23/8/2017
08:50
Two bullish postings on the trot!!! Its like old times. The timing for me is excellent as I will be speaking to people at the York' Ebor' meeting who have shares in 'Stilo'. 'Buy some more' will be my message.
firth
22/8/2017
20:32
With a fair wind it looks as though recurring software maintenance revenues might approach or even exceed the milestone £1MILLION mark in the current year;no mean feat considering that these amounted to just £713,000 in 2015. Add to this David Ashman's final words in his Chairman's statement that, "the outlook for Migrate conversion services and OmniMark software remains promising for the remainder of the year",and this could indicate that a more than satisfactory outcome will be evidenced,come March 2018.
mudbath
19/8/2017
12:38
The main reasons as to why I am holding Stilo are numerous but amongst these are the following: dividends, growth prospects, unique products, growing list of products, well managed company and its cash pile. Personally, I was very disappointed to read that having posted their 6 month end results so, so early compared to their previous years, the numbers were not as high as I expected. Especially with this 6 month period being posted post brexit I was expecting revenues to be at least be 10% higher. Disappointing to read that profits have fallen back too. Course, operating costs were up by £68,000 though. However, on the other hand, the fact that cash in the bank has again gone up by a healthy £209,000 and dividends are up is fantastic. The excellent cash generation together with the cash pile means that dividends are more or less guaranteed. A certainty really. One thing that management at Stilo do not do is waste a penny on unnecessary research and development costs and the pennies they do spend are only spent on quality products, normally unique products where others can't compete. As we all know they normally use Omnimark for this. Going forward, development costs are going to be capitalised from 2017 onwards so these are of course going to hit the bottom line but with the eventual growth in revenue this will look after itself anyway. Stilo recently announced in their AGM that they would look at making an acquisition and to possibly pay special dividends. Personally I do not see them doing this for quite some time yet. If anything 2019 at the earliest. The only concern I have with Stilo is the timing of when revenue from the new products is going to start rolling in. If the board had their own way both Jats and Author Bridge would be out there now bringing in some decent revenue. But as we all know, and management have reported on this, development time is taking a lot longer than anticipated. Stilo have only just taken on new staff so that they can complete the work necessary to get Author Bridge up and running and lets not forget this has been in development since 2014. It is certainly going to take time to get additional revenues rolling in (12 to 18 months) before we can really see what kind of an impact the new products will have on Stilo's bottom line. For me and any other medium to long term investor this should really not be a problem because this additional revenue will certainly come but like I have said its just the timing that is a little frustrating. Happen it will though! Guaranteed! We all know that Stilo will continue to issue more shares during in the foreseeable future which is unfortunate for all shareholders, especially long term holders but this is just the way it goes with companies like this. Personally, if I had my own way I would wish if this was done less frequently but its just the way it is. In terms of the company being sold on the cheap I don't think this will happen now. I don't think David Ashman would buy around 20 million shares and throw a few million of these to his kids to then have the company sold on the cheap. I also don't see any outfit coming for a company Stilo's size quite yet, especially as they are still developing new products which as we all know take a very huge amount of time to develop, bring to market and then sell. Author Bridge and Jats will provide this additional revenue but on an incremental basis as time goes on. In closing, from my perspective, certain aspects of the 6 month end results were disappointing but in other areas I am more than happy. Can't have my cake and eat it but once Author Bridge and Jats are up and running, hopefully sooner rather than later, we can all then really find out what the bottom line is. In the meantime, I will continue to enjoy my dividends!
stilolosses
17/8/2017
13:35
michaelmouse, its a shame the stl 1.5% annual divi is not closer to 30%, if it were you may have an investment case. Unfortunately for you it is not and will not prevent further double digit falls. Steve asks good questions, why pay a divi at all and at a mc9m why is it even listed. Bailout placing soon just to pay the divi, r&d and plc costs. bod are using divi payment to pull the wool. I am surprised you have not spotted this trick yet. Its been played before.
slartybartfaster
17/8/2017
13:16
Shares in Stilo International (STL) currently trade more than 9% lower today, at just over 7p, on the back of the company’s half year results announcement. This follows them also having fallen by more than 14% following the company’s announcement of 2015 results in March. Hmmm. The latest P&L shows profit increased from a corresponding 2015 period £0.16 million to £0.18 million on revenue 11.5% higher at £0.87 million - and the company notes a 33% increase in the interim dividend per share to 0.04p. However, a 33% increase in the total annual dividend would still only equate to a yield of 1.5% at the current share price and the latest results show, after particularly £56,000 in dividends paid and £83,000 of “development costs capitalised”, only a £75,000 increase in cash. The announcement notes “an uplift in OmniMark sales being offset by a reduction in Migrate revenues” - OmniMark being the company’s content processing platform, though it noting “over recent years, the company has made a significant investment in the development of Migrate, the world's first cloud XML content conversion service”. Yet, it is now reporting “a reduction in Migrate revenues”! The announcement concludes that “trading in 2016 continues in line with management expectations overall… We continue to invest in the development of innovative new products that will serve to underpin our future growth”. Thus, “development costs capitalised” look set to be a recurring feature here – and to be considered in valuation calculations. The market cap is currently just over £8 million – with the balance sheet showing net tangible assets of £1.30 million, including cash (net) of £1.39 million. I’d thus suggest material growth is required from here to justify the valuation and, indeed, the company bothering being stock market listed – and that the noted share price declines on the results, at least partly, reflect the announcements reminding of these. This compares to a May AGM update, for example, eschewing profit and revenue information, whilst including the likes of “following extensive testing by a very prestigious client, it (AuthorBridge, a new cloud XML authoring tool) is now scheduled to be deployed by them in full production in May 2016, representing a significant milestone for the company”. At the current stage here, I avoid.
slartybartfaster
16/8/2017
15:34
That is a surprise , as a better look at H1 & H2 2016 , now with H1 2017 added , shows how the fall in underlying sales is accelerating on a constant currency basis . More worrisome than at first glance. Authorbridge can't come soon enough .
baa
16/8/2017
13:42
Perhaps you'd like to start at post 1907:- http://uk.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=25760470&from=1907 This was when last year's finals were released. Run post 2009 past me again??????
michaelmouse
16/8/2017
13:16
I only talk facts ...if some have no manners to respect them , more fool them . I said 7p was too high at the time of the finals, you derided that view and I've been proved correct . Go figure
baa
16/8/2017
13:07
On a serious note making statements like, "no catalyst for re-rating until at least H2 2018, probably H1 2019" suggests that you're either one of Advfn's clown traders or highly inexperienced. STL is a micro-cap is every sense of the word. Several events could cause a "major" re-rate e.g. special dividends, trading ahead of expectations, bid for the company, major contract win, acquisition, any combination of the factors mentioned........
michaelmouse
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