Shire Share Discussion Threads

[philanderer] 03/10/2017 09:11

3rd oct Liberum hold tp 4400p

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[ruethewhirl] 02/10/2017 22:03

Come on baby, got to get above 4100 on this upswing...

[philanderer] 02/10/2017 17:39

Better day all round :-)

[justiceforthemany] 02/10/2017 15:13

I hope to see a 5000p/share bid RNS landing any moment. We've earned some good news. Ramp it up!

[steeplejack] 02/10/2017 11:26

Most private clients are understandably transfixed by the price they buy a stock at.If you'd bought Shire at say £10 the recent setback in the price would be fairly inconsequential.If however,you'd bought at £40,the recent setback might irritate,if for no other reason that you'd be running a loss and your entry point was poor.Warren Buffet is famous for saying that he'd be quite happy for the stock markets to remain closed for up to two years at a time,it'd make no difference to him,since having decided to buy a stock,he was confident in his judgement and was prepared to see it through.Not much commission for brokers if that occurred.The markets are filled with a myriad of different investors.Some are looking for income,capital gain,some become stale bulls,some are momentum traders.The trouble is that private clients have a tendency to forget why they bought a share in the first place especially if they start running losses.The fact that they are losing money clouds their judgement.The market is as much about psychology as solid data and there are operators who everyday hope to unnerve the unwary into making ill conceived snap judgements.Every now and then ,you have to determine whether you are happy to continue holding a stock immaterial of share price movements.

[jpjohn1] 29/9/2017 20:44

Yes I bought Centica Thursday. Dividend 3.6p on 12th Oct. They are on near lows for the year. Most shares go up a couple of weeks before they go x-dividend, so you have got a choice if it goes up you can make a profit or just collect the div and wait until your not at a loss.There are 4 types of investors really, some just sit on the company and when it goes up well in the year sells, that way your not spending a fortune in stamp duty. There are others which buy and sell all the time, the trouble with that are the stoppages and there are people who just keep an eye on the shares going x-div so they can collect the dividends. There are also an increasing number of investors that only buy company's where there is no stamp duty. I've done all of them and to be quite honest I'm not sure which is the best. Whatever your choice I hope it goes well for you. Have a good weekend whatever your doing

[justiceforthemany] 29/9/2017 17:54

Yes Shire had another negative week despite the wider index being up 1%. GBP declined this week vs USD also so this is being hammered every way at the moment. Bizarre.

Portfolio up 0.8% Vs FTSE350 up 1%.
Spire, utilities and this to blame for the underperformance - again.

Spire upside is massive IMO; possibly 45-50%+

ITV, Go-Ahead, MKS doing well.

KGF and WPP go ex-dividend next week (5th Oct)
Centrica ex-dividend 12th Oct if holding.

[philanderer] 29/9/2017 17:21

My lot just about matched the ftse100 for the week at +0.8% , but way behind the ftse250 at +1.8%

[mbmiah] 29/9/2017 15:16

Market is hot, shire is asleep

[jpjohn1] 28/9/2017 21:30

Sorry that was IMB not IBM pretxt !!

[jpjohn1] 28/9/2017 21:23

It's hard going sometimes Phil, having a crystal ball would be nice! IBM near on record lows, hope it goes up for you. The good thing with SHP there is no stamp duty. The most I've ever done in one day buying and selling Bought £628 k shares in Glencore and sold £660k Glencore ( sold 32k first thing ) I bought and sold Glencore all day and made £1,400 after stoppages, but if for example it was Barclays and I had to pay stamp duty I would have actually lost

[philanderer] 28/9/2017 21:06

Well done jpj, a profit is a profit.

Pretty well unchanged for my lot today. IMB clobbered on it's update bur SSPG racing ahead. SHP just about standing still.

[jpjohn1] 28/9/2017 15:50

Yes Phil, it is one to test your nerves. Sold yesterday when+24p . Made a small profit not having to pay stamp duty. For those who have not been doing to very long, there are other company's in the Ft 100 where you don't pay stamp. Glencore - IAG - Randgold - Wolseley - Wpp - Experian - Coca Cola. It does not sound much I pay about £5,000 a year which eats into your profits

[philanderer] 28/9/2017 08:37

Another day to turn off the screens. 😉

[romeike] 27/9/2017 13:30

Monty is an idiot on the GSK board and similarly an idiot here too.

[andyj] 27/9/2017 00:57

I agree toffeeman, despite the fundamental attractions of this company, few will commit to a share in such an obvious and aggressive downtrend. Support around 36 would give a short term and longer term double bottom, from which a significant recovery could spring. In the absence of bad news anyway!

[jpjohn1] 26/9/2017 21:34

Hi Phil , since SHP interim dividend 7th Sept this company as lost £2.69.5p 6.71%. Looks time for a rise fingers crossed

[philanderer] 26/9/2017 20:52

Luck with those jpj.

edit: down a couple more pence stateside since the London close.

Fingers crossed for a bounce tomorrow

[jpjohn1] 26/9/2017 18:06

Bad day today chaps, should be a good one tomorrow. Don't forget it hit £53 less than a year ago, bought 1627 shares earlier

[justiceforthemany] 26/9/2017 17:48

So let me get this straight - GBP rises and Shire collapses; GBP falls and Shire still collapses! 'Fair and regulated market'? Rubbish.

[toffeeman] 26/9/2017 16:33

3500 (double bottom) looks a good entry point?

[philanderer] 26/9/2017 08:48

Here we go again. 🙄

[philanderer] 22/9/2017 19:59

Not too bad for mine up almost 1% , mainly thanks to a big leap in DOM , one of my largest holdings.