Powerhouse Energy Share Discussion Threads

[troutisout] 26/6/2017 11:08

Then surely the Company is complicit in this, they after all are the people that agree the placing.

So you yourself caused these lowly placings......after all MMs only have to make a two way market up to a certain amount (the EMS). If you want more than that you would have to pay up and perhaps you didn't want to do that?

I can't think why you didn't just approach the Company to buy them direct in a placing.....

Are you talking about the July placing? Only you bought 6m shares and the placing was for 38m rather a difference and cannot really be attributed to you. Did you not take part in that placing being such a large holder? Did they not ask you? If they did would you have bought in the market a few days before?

Not sure this is underhand, just you got caught out and want to try and make it underhand....

[warwick69] 26/6/2017 10:51

Read my posts from last year I believe three of the placings were all as a result of my heavy buying not being covered by MM hence they needed shares issued after the event I believe this is a regular occurrence in AIM stocks MM go short and shorter then drop price after they have shorted enough and get a friendly broker to offer the host company a placing at a lower price than the MM average short price I have raised these concerns with the FCA and will be having a meeting with my MP for home to investigate also It happens far to frequently after share spikes for it to be a couple coincidence !! Not just in this share but I know how many shares and how much cash I invested prior too three earlier placings no way it was a coincidence that each led to a placing I am not nuts and you sound knowledgeable so you should be able to see what I am referring too unless you don't want it to be discussed

[troutisout] 26/6/2017 10:35

warwick,

As you are so well researched you will know that ADVFN and others had problems all last week on their live feeds and they are still not right, you can reference back to the HELP thread for research.
So really not sure that the above is correct, ADVFN pay someone else for the feed they don't re-allocate the times, trades, etc.

Also do you know what the 'K' means besides the trade?

As for your 2 above, an underhand placing underway, please tell us more? The mind boggles what exactly was underhand about it?

[warwick69] 26/6/2017 10:25

Another error by ADVFN the last trade £1,266,485 was timed at 8.58 on LSE hence the tick up at that time yet ADVFN want us to believe it was 9.58 Now why are they posting incorrect times not that it makes any difference this time around But this just shows how poor the city is of being correct with its posted trades

[warwick69] 26/6/2017 09:36

No I fully understand they have to go short and generally do not want any positions but when I purchased £100,000 plus of shares they could not cover the only way to cover was to get an underhand placing arranged I really have done my research They can misread a market like anyone else

[troutisout] 26/6/2017 09:29

warwick,

MMs have to be able to go short as their job means they have to offer a two way spread and if their are more buyers than sellers they will have to go short to satisfy their conditions of making a market.
I know the industry well as every person that invests or trades in AIM shares should do their own research on everything, you obviously haven't.....

You seem to think that Market makers want to have positions, that they are in effect trading just like their clients and that someone somewhere is making the decisions for every price move....as I said Naive or Deluded......

[warwick69] 26/6/2017 09:22

Oh really trout what makes you so knowledgeable? Giving a hint that you know the industry well and hence my consideration that you are indeed a friend of the city cheats that masquerade as market makers ! There are so many more negative posters on this share than positive I wonder why that is when it's not that easy to short this stock? One of the only ways to short this stock is if you are a market maker and you have a bit of a naked short position as you have not been able to supply all the demand for shares ? Now that would encourage you as an MM to get all your bulletin board friends to cast doubt and slander and create an environment to encourage sellers

[troutisout] 26/6/2017 09:17

Well that's where we have to disagree, someone who thinks their complaint to the FCA about a typo and then thinks that has had an effect on the MMs is definitely deluded.....

I work for myself and not in financial services industry, but you may want to find out
more about MMs and how they set their spreads, etc, you might then realise what you are saying is more suited being put into a G3-UHt

[warwick69] 26/6/2017 09:12

Last few shares under .80 will be snaffled up shortly and then we will tick up again as we move towards the confirmation stage of this technology and the wider audience that will start to take a look? Then what price will new investors have to pay as they all fight over the tiny free float! Trout you better get some quickly or you will miss out

[warwick69] 26/6/2017 09:10

Oh trout just watch and learn my friend I am very far from being deluded Who do you work for why are you worried I may be right?

[troutisout] 26/6/2017 09:08

warwick,
you are deluded....

As for focus the mind, have you considered it might be playing tricks with your mind? With so much tied up here, I hope you have signed up a financial power of attorney just in case your mind goes pop....

Watch out for aliens in tin foil suits.......

[warwick69] 26/6/2017 09:03

Nice tick up perhaps we are starting to see a better regulated trading situation as supply and demand is truly reflected in the share price we shall see? Perhaps my complaints are not falling on deaf ears after all and maybe the Market Makers are being a bit more careful as they know they are being monitored ! I don't give a stuff if you all think I am mad and a moaner £126,000 per tenth of a penny tends to focus the mind somewhat.

[warwick69] 26/6/2017 09:00

TroutYou do not know for sure though do you but you don't care as you are negative towards this company? I don't trust the city traders do you perhaps you are on their side ? There are so many friends of the city insiders on these bulletin boards!

[troutisout] 26/6/2017 08:43

Warwick,

Were you really spouting so much about what is obviously a typo and then writing to the FCA about it....LOL!

It was a typo and yes it doesn't look like a correction has been issued, live with it, two mistakes.....nothing was traded at that price just a print put through incorrectly.

I worry about you if you have invested the sums you state and then seem so naive.....

[warwick69] 26/6/2017 07:18

A correction trade shows as a minus trade at the same price as the error trade This is completely different ? Try again Jaknife that explanation does not fit the data disclosed, you still have not explained the net difference in value of £7,146 to the two parties of the transaction

[warwick69] 26/6/2017 07:03

Yes but one is a sell and one a buy? If it was a roll over then their should be 4 1,000,000 trades there are three trades that equates to a purchase of 1,000,000 that's not a roll over! If it was a roll over the total has to net out with an even number of transactions not an odd number? It can't be a roll over with three connected trades

[warwick69] 25/6/2017 22:36

Well Jaknife where is the amended trade there has been no correction to date

I believe in the company and the technology it will be truly disruptive in the waste to energy arena and eventually the true valuation of this business will be reflected in the share price and that will be many many many multiples of the current price

I have no worries in that and I am not a loony I know I have spouted some rubbish over the years, but I expect to be very happy and I will be well rewarded for the courage of my convictions!

I just want to understand what has been occurring behind the scenes as I have been involved in this share for a long time and been the single biggest trader in it for nearly two years so I think I have some understanding of the trading activities!

And have witnessed some issues that need explanation or at least some investigation by the authorities?

If my suspicions are correct ant these practices can be eradicated it will help many small investors in many many AIM shares?

I will not give up on my personal crusade to uncover the truth

[warwick69] 25/6/2017 21:09

I care as it appears to be fostering corruption ?

This share has been heavily manipulated by the market makers for many years

[warwick69] 25/6/2017 20:39

Yes that's how it appears but there is still a benefit to the counterpart of £7146 the trade has not been corrected at the right price

Come on someone with your knowledge should be able to see this is dodgy and still not corrected properly!!!

Someone has apparently lost £7,146 on this trade and then paid .80 again a higher price than expected .794 yes only marginal

But one party is down £7,146 and one party is in profit by £7,146

Your explanation does not answer this

[warwick69] 25/6/2017 18:50

Jaknife look on LSE on 20/6 at 11.31 clearly still showing on LSE

Advfn was having feed issues on Tuesday