Plus500 Share Discussion Threads

[sb888] 28/9/2018 12:54

its gone ex growth ....i kept telling you that

[noujay] 28/9/2018 12:53

Anybody would think this thing has stopped making money and the game is up, last one out get the lights!My feeling is that Plus will surprise to the upside come October or sooner, so taken a few more this morning

[burn248] 28/9/2018 12:52

Can't believe instis just bought millions of shares at £15 + and don't know what the state of trading in plus.M

[bulltradept] 28/9/2018 12:36

A long time ago I knew an old guy who was in to the market, (before the internet), and he used to subscribe to tips sheets.

I have to say I try and be impartial so any mistakes I make I take on the chin, no blaming others, and like wise any successes are from me. I don't follow anyone but I do subscribe to the IC, but am aware at how out of touch they can be.

[rackerrs1] 28/9/2018 12:29

anyone who follows the Naked Trader is a total mug

he posts all his trades after a move and is usually on the other side, when those mug followers act on his every word.

a total twit and i dont believe a thing he says not that i follow him. just took a look at his site.

a fool and his money......

[f15jcm] 28/9/2018 12:17

If the update does go in our favour, there's going to be a lovely short squeeze. Risk/reward must be starting to look attractive for long positions. A nice bit of market volatility over the next month would be just lovely.

[dl6789] 28/9/2018 12:01

ESMA have decided to extend the rules governing CFDs for another 3 months. Has this already been priced in? Does PLUS have further to fall?

[bulltradept] 28/9/2018 11:58

Naked who...?

[f15jcm] 28/9/2018 11:42

Looking at his previous positions, he's hardly had any losers, long or short. Hard to believe in this market. He's updated the site as recently as 24th Sept but his APH trade is still showing as open despite being 16% below his supposed stop and 30% underwater. It tanked 19th September on results. I smell a rat.

[dl6789] 28/9/2018 11:05

That was (apparently) at a price of £20.02. The price today is 33% below that...way oversold imo considering Q3 was in line with expectations in the last update

[hatfullofsky] 28/9/2018 10:45

Naked Trader gone short IG and Plus

[poolefox] 28/9/2018 09:43

Can’t see the share price recovering until the TS given the bad news from CMC and IG unless institutions go bargain hunting

[hussyo] 28/9/2018 09:32

This must be a world record fall for a company that hasn't delivered a shred of bad news. Someone call Norris McWhirter!

[poolefox] 28/9/2018 09:31

Hanbury has topped up again

[bulltradept] 28/9/2018 09:25

Market's unsure what to make of it currently. Would like to see the 13.60 ish region hold though...

[villarich] 28/9/2018 09:24

More of the same today then? I wonder when the knife is going to stick in the ground??

[financethoughts] 28/9/2018 08:25

Consensus estimate £256.1m Net Profit, according to Stockopedia. No upgrade or downgrade in last month. Upgrade of £59.4m in last 3m.

[hussyo] 27/9/2018 22:11

You make an interesting point about a possible upgrade... remind me what the latest, upgraded, full year stands at...

[financethoughts] 27/9/2018 22:00

Sorry rifle, I perhaps wasn’t clear enough or used lazy terms. Your response however was fairly aggressive. I was simply making a comparison between the RNS on 27th September last year called ‘trading update’ vs the RNS from Wednesday 26th called ‘Notice of trading update’. One contains a trading update and confirms Q3 date, the other doesn’t give a trading update but confirms Q3 date. Was just an observation, sorry if this offended or you felt misled in some way. Just trying to contribute thoughts and observations to the group.

[hussyo] 27/9/2018 21:38

I rather hope on update day the comparison will be to a top fuel dragster

[rifleshot3] 27/9/2018 21:33

Incorrect. They don’t give “views”. Hard facts, positive or negative, legally oblige guidance up or down. Trading updates, different from an RNS stating a fact, give them an opportunity to present KPI’s, positive or negative, for the market to interpret. It is that simple.

[financethoughts] 27/9/2018 20:25

So they are next going to give a trading update when they issue Q3 results, which were scheduled for late October anyway. What’s interesting is that they didn’t give any trading view during the announcement of when Q3 would be reported. I concur with your view that they want as much time as possible, but conspiracy theorists would say it’s because they don’t have the positive vibe to share that they had this time last year in the matching RNS. I doubt it, but it’s possible as we don’t know what’s happened since H1 trading end reported. Nonetheless PLUS trading would need to all but grind to a complete stop for them to miss any reasonable end of year projection.

[rifleshot3] 27/9/2018 18:35

That's correct HussyO. They want every day they can get before they announce to the market. But that doesn't mean anything negative....every piece of data they can finalize to present a true picture of how different they are from CMC and IG, they'll take. And the more time they have, the more data they can present. Ironically, they'll likely be forced into an RNS pre October 23rd to upgrade 2018 full year expectations, but I think, in a perfect world, they'd actually just hit the market on that date with key KPI's that completely differentiate them from both their nearest competitors (and post ESMA run-rate numbers, trending in the right direction, to back it up). We shall see.

Don't ignore that little trickle up at the end of today...

[hussyo] 27/9/2018 17:26

Dave.. my feeling is that they want time to also give an update partial for Q4... what the motive behind that is we can only guess..

[f15jcm] 27/9/2018 17:26

Interesting comments from Barclays on IGG: Overall, Barclays still believes there will be "unanswered questions for some time" but, assuming nothing more meaningful has happened than described in the statement and that the effects of ESMA regulations are broadly consistent with existing forecasts, "we believe times like now with potential share price weakness should be used by shareholders to step in and add to positions in what is a global leader in its field".