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[mapocho] 28/2/2022 17:00

Ukraine is not part of NATO or the US or the EU. Following your argument, it would be much more logical to invade the Baltics or Poland.
And the killing of innocent civilians is wrong. I find it hard to believe you think it's OK for geo-political reasons.

[stevea171] 28/2/2022 16:53

It's nothing of the kind. Russia is acting in self defense. Period. It set out it's demands to the US and NATO in December. These were ignored. They are still being ignored. So this is not the end.

[mapocho] 28/2/2022 16:48

Your logic is confused. Have you ever heard of the expression 2 wrongs don't make it right. I am not discussing the history of the world here. Let's go back to the Romans ... or further back in history. Let's discuss right and wrong starting with the Spanish in the Americas or the US expansion into Mexico.

My comment is that Putin's invasion is wrong. You seem to think it's OK because other states have done the same thing. I see no logic in that position is my point.

[stevea171] 28/2/2022 16:40

>>>> "I know evil when I see it... the death of thousands. The bombing of civilians. A fruitcake bully in charge"

You're referring of course to the US and 'coalition of the willing' - umpteen wars of choice killing and injuring millions, displacing tens of millions more all around the world - Serbia, Syria, Iraq, Afganistan, Libya, Iran, on and on. Many of the displaced are here now or arriving in boats across the Channel as well as millions all over the EU and still coming.

Where were you when all these wars were happening? Cheer leading I expect!
What does that make you?
A hypocrite or what?

[m w] 28/2/2022 16:37

Is Russia falls we're all doomed the west will become too powerful and usher in a one world government

[mapocho] 28/2/2022 16:25

I know evil when I see it... the death of thousands. The bombing of civilians. A fruitcake bully in charge who says this isn't a war and loves reference to the 'final solution'. With the fall of Ukraine would come Georgia then the Baltics. History never stops..
Anyway, beginning of the end for Putin...imo.

[stevea171] 28/2/2022 16:12

You don't even understand the meaning of what you're writing .... let alone the history of relations of Russia with the US, NATO EU and Ukraine or the warnings that have been given by foreign relations experts for the past 30 years that have been ignored.

[mapocho] 28/2/2022 16:04

I prefer objective rather than subjective truth. The invasion of Ukraine was an act of war, though Russia say's it isn't. Should we just say sorry you're right!

[stevea171] 28/2/2022 15:59

It's an 'act of war' as defined by Russia. It doesn't matter what you think.
Zircons at the ready.
Wait and see.

[stevea171] 28/2/2022 15:21

Today. US Bans Transactions With Russian Central Bank, Freezing Nearly Half Of Russia's $630BN In Reserves.

Russia 'suspending equity markets'

In response to the barrage of sanctions, the Bank of Russia acted quickly to shield the nation’s $1.5 trillion economy from the sweeping penalties, more than doubling its key interest rate to 20%, the highest in almost two decades, suspending equity markets and imposing some controls on the flow of capital.

POG to be relegated from the Ftse250.
Position is way below auto exit determined as at cob tomorrow.

West removes Russia from 'Swift'. These measures combined are 'acts of war' so this means war is coming to the West as previously warned by Russia.

[midasx] 28/2/2022 13:21

Putin raising interest rates to 20% smacks of black Wednesday when Norman Lamont raised rates to 10% TO try and keep the UK in the ERM.

We know what happened there!

[nav1000] 28/2/2022 10:31

J777jSo how do you want to stop him?

[undervaluedassets] 28/2/2022 10:23

POG gets taken over by the Russian state surely. Or by a mixture of the state and Oligarchs working in cahoots.

Gold good source of strategic funds that cannot be devalued by foreign interference.

[j777j] 28/2/2022 09:30

Belarus had a referendum yesterday which has allowed the Permanent stationing of russian troops AND RUSSIAN NUCLEAR WEAPONS

It also gave Lukashenko immunity for all his actions and right to stay in power until 2036.



wake up people!!!!!

[j777j] 28/2/2022 09:01

Putin threatened the entire civilization yesterday with nuclear weapons.

People need to understand that the dust cloud from even a few nuclear weapons will turn the entire planet dark for two years.Everything will die.

In a chilling interview a while ago Putin said words to the effect that there is no point in a world without Russia.

The threat has been made and this man needs to be stopped at all cost.

[route1] 28/2/2022 02:20

Cut and Run...as fast as you can!!!

[route1] 28/2/2022 02:15

When an agreement is made? I would have thought by now that we should have woken up to the fact that based on his recent, and present actions, Putin does not agree, discuss, negotiate or compromise with anyone or any nation, especially now with and in his CRAZED and FURIOUS state of mind ; possibly and partially created by his anger when he realised last week that his troops freezing and starving whilst waiting for invasion orders, were selling their limited diesel fuel supplies to the locals for Food!Now, fortunately, that severe banking sanctions are in place, the chances are increasing exponentially that his only option to raise HARD cash is to seize Hard assets within his Country as a desperate and last resort. ATM he is a RUNAWAY TRAIN !!!!!!

[ptg1301] 27/2/2022 23:59

So do we hold, sell or buy more!!??

Opinions?

[midasx] 27/2/2022 23:23

The Rouble will plummet with funds frozen, how will they support it?

Run on Russian banks as customers withdraw funds. Putin needs a way out and quick!

He has very badly miscalculated and threatening nuclear option shows how desperate he is!

[midasx] 27/2/2022 16:27

Putin is losing on all fronts and will be looking for a way out of the huge mistake he has made!

Talks tomorrow!

Huge increase for Pog when an agreement is made.

[apple53] 26/2/2022 09:44

So either everyone is as clueless as me as to the impacts of potential risks, or (to be fair), there is no obligation to share potentially hard-won knowledge so easily.

Another question is would sanctioning strukov have any impact at all....

[ron manager] 26/2/2022 09:41

Sky News just reporting that the Russian Government has declared that it will seize the assets of international companies (US, UK and European)operating in Russia. This does not bode well for Petropavlosk.