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POG Petropavlovsk Plc

1.20
0.00 (0.00%)
28 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Petropavlovsk Plc LSE:POG London Ordinary Share GB0031544546 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 1.20 1.20 1.25 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

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14/1/2022
09:56
Err this is a report in to the previous management and board who were removed...200 MA on the weekly chart has been hit.
robertstronghand
14/1/2022
09:44
Nothing like a Friday to bury bad news, eh? Even the title of the RNS and its language are designed to obscure its real importance. And the promise to turn over a new leaf isn't to be believed.
IMO, POG is uninvestable. And that's without considering the geopolitical risk.

tigerbythetail
14/1/2022
09:07
stevea

Interesting analysis. You are obviously presenting things from a Russian leadership perspective (arguably pure Putin), as this is what matters given Putin's almost absolute control of public opinion in Russia.
There is then the cynical (normally accurate) analysis of the US response (though bear in mind US leaders have a broad range of opinions on this), and we mustn't forget that US policy is 70% accidental in this space.
Analysis on these lines renders the opinions of people in ex Russian satellites as irrelevant, and maybe this is correct from a geopolitical perspective, because such opinions are a) mixed, b) manipulatable, c) irrelevant.
However, I would hope that the public debate (which Putin is fuelling) would allow for an element of democratic input.

It is easy to argue that Russian oppression plus intransigence prevented the continued rapprochement started under Gorbachev and continued, haltingly, under Yeltsin, and then "drove" neighbouring countries into the arms of Nato, ie NATO expansion, past and future, is a function of Russian leadership behaviour above all else. Yushchenko may be a good example of this - he advocated Nato membership when he thought it was electorally beneficial, but ended up the least popular leader when Russian let him get on with running the country - ie the people cared more about quality of life and corruption than nato membership when Russia wasn't poisoning him.

A possible conclusion is that Nato expansion has been in Putin's hands, and may still be.

apple53
14/1/2022
08:39
I'd suggest anybody who wanted a "Corruption for Dummies" type handbook on how to run a crooked to the core company read the report !



You can make up any old nonsense in the name and email field and it takes you to the report.

troy
14/1/2022
08:26
has management changed? People don't suddenly change face and start behaving honourably, rotten management will keep finding ways to screw and divert money into their own pockets. Particularly Russians!
farrugia
14/1/2022
07:57
So senior management got away with around $100m a year from 2017 to 2020 is this what the report is saying,should bode well for future profits then if this is the case and of course it’s no longer happening.
wskill
14/1/2022
07:40
Good to get the KPMG investigation finalised. $300 Million over 3 years points to potential $100 Million a year savings.

Credit upgrade, strategic review and dividend policy due shortly.

midasx
12/1/2022
18:21
Unsurprisingly no real progress, on the plus side gold is poised to attack 1830, and the more important resistance at 1860. Russia is too important economically to sanction, but the Americans will continue to fight and fail, unfortunately we will continue to tag along.
robertstronghand
12/1/2022
11:01
Washington says it won’t consider Russian proposal to end NATO expansion.
11 Jan, 2022

On Monday, following the meeting in Geneva, Ryabkov told the press that Moscow would not accept anything less than complete assurance from Washington that NATO ends its eastward enlargement.
“For us, it’s absolutely mandatory to make sure that Ukraine never, never, ever becomes a member of NATO,” he said.

stevea171
12/1/2022
10:02
The clock is ticking on Russia’s ultimatum to the West.

Are Russia's two draft treaty proposals Of 17/12/2021 - one to the United States and the second to NATO regarding security guarantees an ultimatum to the West, the last attempt to reach out to them or a final warning to make them stop?

To understand what happened, we need to look at two things: how Russia chose to communicate her demands and then the contents of the demands themselves.

First, this was clearly an ultimatum. Second, it was a public ultimatum.

This is absolutely crucial, as it marks, at the very least, a total break with normal Russian (and Soviet) diplomatic practice.

It is also pretty obvious that both the form and the substance of that ultimatum would be unacceptable to the USA and the US colonies in Europe.

So by making her demands public, Russia has (for the first time and finally!!) also sent a message to the people of the West. This message can be summarized like this: we don’t want war, but if you insist, we will oblige.

Conclusion: This is no Russian bluff but a real ultimatum. In fact, it is so real that it was made public for two reasons I believe: first, of course, to try to appeal to the people of the West and, second, to morally “untie the hands” of Russia should it come to full-scale war.

Analysts in the West always assume that public gestures are somehow exclusively aimed at them. They are wrong. This ultimatum is also addressed to the Russian people and Russian armed forces and says this to them: “people of Russia, we tried all we could to avoid this, we pleaded and begged for decades, and we retreated on many fronts, yet in spite of that, the West keeps pressing on. We will never allow a June 22nd to happen again. Prepare for war“.

30/12/2021. Biden/Putin telephone call. Both leaders expressed willingness to engage in a serious and substantive dialogue on negotiations for providing Russia with legally binding security guarantees.

It was confirmed that the negotiations would take place:
first in Geneva on January 9–10
and then as part of the Russia-NATO Council in Brussels on January 12.
Negotiations are also to be held at the OSCE on January 13.

The presidents agreed to personally supervise these negotiating tracks, especially bilateral, with a focus on reaching results quickly.

Deputy Foreign Minister, Sergey Ryabkov is leading the Russian delegation. Russia made it 100% clear no futher expansion of NATO (incl Ukraine and Georgia) and rolling it back to 1997 position in Monday's meeting with the US. Russia requested a written reply to their demands within a week. The US agreed to this. Today the meeting with NATO and tomorrow the OSCE.

The most likely outcome is the US will not take Russia's demands seriously, offer nothing substantial and play for time. As a consequence Russia will start to take matters into their own hands when they understand what they were expecting that the only thing the West understands is direct action.

The clock is ticking .....

stevea171
12/1/2022
08:47
Interesting spike down at the open.

They took the sell price under 16p on my spread bet account, picked up £500 per point at 17.22 p.

Time will tell, games being played to catch stops, lots of good potential news to come! Gold above $1810 !

midasx
10/1/2022
15:48
Now POG’s auditors are being investigated - Friday’s FT
robert handofstrukov
10/1/2022
12:14
Updated the investor page and the financial calendar with the capital markets day as Q1, date TBD. H2 should have seen the results of efficiency improvements as well as the new flotation plant at Pioneer, miners might not be reflecting it but they are all making good money at 1800 gold.
robertstronghand
05/1/2022
15:28
Taking stock, those who were sceptical of some of the new management and more importantly of the key shareholder and, due to these views, sold out, are looking smart. You might argue the right call for the wrong reasons. You might argue that there was too much good news in the price close to 40p, with skeletons to emerge from the closet, and further that there is way too much bad news priced in today. The gold price hasn't helped.
Of course if I were them I would be buying back in, even if I have to hold my nose, knowing that the kitchen-sinking has taken place. Sadly I am way too long to add much.

Nearer term, is the latest downturn (contrary to other gold stocks, I think, though correct me if I'm wrong), being driven by some portfolio repositioning, or the negative board votes (which seem to be delaying company updates)?

And coming back to the longer term, if the key shareholder really did want to pick up the whole business on the cheap, as some of the sceptics suggested, and so have been engineering lots of bad news, this could be consistent with events, and sets POG up for a cheap offer. I wonder what some of us would be happy with now? With peak 2020 gold prices I would have hoped for 50-60p. Gold price adjusted, this might now be 40-47p. Would be willing to hold out for this, given the choice?

apple53
29/12/2021
13:41
I notice in the Tass article on the 21st that Stocken sold the IRC shares on to Gazprombank mostly, Gazprombank have been generous in their lending to POG... These fellas need to pencil in a date for the Capital Markets Day after the Russian New Year and Christmas are done, need to be looking forward now and generating investor interest.
robertstronghand
21/12/2021
08:40
CFTC shows net longs dropped another 20% last week to 63k, longs down by 3,575 contracts, shorts up 13,749 contracts. Room for speculators to run gold up, should they so choose.
robertstronghand
19/12/2021
08:48
The main short is a hedge against the convertible bonds which mature next year. As such they should be closed before the bonds mature.

Nice for companies like Vaneck to know if they are increasing their long positions.

Strategic update and S&P credit upgrade around the corner. News on dividend policy with the prospect of higher Gold Prices to come.

midasx
17/12/2021
15:12
Still big short position, they are brave bears. Can we see gold back to $2000, in 2022.
montyhedge
17/12/2021
11:35
The reality of inflation in a World where interest rate rises are limited by World debt should be great news for the price of Gold. True physical demand is increasing away from Crimex.

Nice to see Gold back above $1800.

Hopefully 2022 will be a much better year for the share price!

midasx
16/12/2021
19:25
Across their index trackers, both gold and Russia, maybe they upped the weighting on the gold etfs. Turkish lira slumps, energy surges in Europe, gold a safe haven today. Keep an eye on BBVA...
robertstronghand
16/12/2021
16:32
Big position taken by vanveck. Over 3.5%
spacedust
16/12/2021
09:08
Looking like gold will be having another go at a breakout, third times a charm, strong rally so far off the extreme oversold indicators registered yesterday.
robertstronghand
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