Paysafe Share Discussion Threads

[lw425] 11/8/2016 23:29

My view is my view.

Nothing on here can effect a FTSE 250 Algo driven stock

but

It is a traders stock, that is the whole point.

They may well go for sub 400p tomorrow or Monday.

[pshevlin] 11/8/2016 23:03

LW425. This is not a traders stock that you can effect with your ill informed comments. Look at the trades. Mainly instis and they dont give a maonkeys about you.

[toyin] 11/8/2016 22:39

seans66

Im the same as you, not as clever as these BB traders. Just keep buying the dips until the story changes, which as far as I can see isnt going to be anytime soon.

All the best.

[seans66] 11/8/2016 22:16

Depends on your time frame? Mine is 5 years minimum.

[panic investor] 11/8/2016 22:15

That's the problem it's a brilliant company but the share price has done little compared to elsewhere considering !

[seans66] 11/8/2016 22:06

I have accumulated over last 2 years and am about 60% up. Not clever enough to trade in & out like some. Watch the CEO's interview on CNBC this week. More acquisitions to come. This has a long way to go. Eventually will be taken by Worldpay.

[the big fella] 11/8/2016 21:34

Lw425 conveniently ignoring the growth

[trentendboy] 11/8/2016 20:37

Amusing load of new posters coming on to talk it down.Soon be gone and leave this board to the regs to discuss the merits of the company.It may fluctuate but backing a winning management team is usually a good move.Pays will be there in the final shake up

[hutch_pod] 11/8/2016 20:34

Perhaps the comment on WorldPay didn't help today..http://www.sharecast.com/news/worldpay-shares-fall-on-jefferies-downgrade/24811680.html

[lw425] 11/8/2016 19:48

PE of 14 with debt to pay off is NOT very cheap. Not expensive either but the shorter won't care.

It falls on a blue day, so just watch what happens on a broad market sell off.

One could argue that 360p or 12 times earnings is fair considering the debt and no dividend.

I think 360p is fair.

330P not out of the question. PE of 11 with debt and no dividend.

Why not?

[ramas] 11/8/2016 19:23

All the instis are in with cheap stock .... Nothing to move the share higher near term .... But I'll be glad to be proved wrong

[eh9] 11/8/2016 18:12

Smells like paysafe's new wallet....Jv opportunity

[lw425] 11/8/2016 17:27

look at the 12 month chart. gaps always get filled with pays

if you can't go up on a blue turnaround day.... then you're not going up

fill that gap man quickly.

i sold well above 325p because I am a clever sod me.

may buy back at 390p

but could retrace further if shorter gets involved

how long till next trading statement?

no dividend

debt to pay off

shorter will crush you emotionally with those AT trades on the sell side

[2bluelynn] 11/8/2016 17:15

A city trader once said to me Gaps are like teeth they always get filled I sold on news and have a order back in at 3.90 Let's see if it gets filled Let's see if he's true

[salpara111] 11/8/2016 17:00

I do think there is an argument in this instance to consider a US listing considering a large and growing portion of their business is derived from over there and I would imagine it would finally allow the share price to re-rate as the share price no longer seems to take any notice of good news here.
I have been in here for about 7 months for no real gain and earlier this year I was going to switch out to IRV at 250p.(closed today at 375)
To say that I feel silly for sticking it out here would be an understatement!

[bulldog67] 11/8/2016 16:28

Verger

All the AT trades are automatic trades triggered by trading bots, similiar to high frequency trading, be careful the machine can trigger this either way, very little ordinary trades done daily probley 2% of volume.

[djbilywiz] 11/8/2016 16:01

Haha! Gaps don't 'need' to filled but if they don't continue upward on strong volume, gap up's could fail and fill, which could be the case here. All technical nonsense really and means little in the long term.

[verger] 11/8/2016 15:54

Could anyone tell me why gaps need to be filled? So far I have two possible answers: Occult, honour amongst thieves.

[verger] 11/8/2016 15:16

My understanding of a 'gap' is a share price range in which no trades took place ie PAYS was in the 390s the night before the results and opened in the 420s on the morning of the results - a gap of 30p. Some believe that the share price must at some point go back to where it was eg 390p and then trade its way up again if the market sees the higher share price as justified. But why gaps have to be filled (or do they)is a mystery.

[propercharlie] 11/8/2016 14:50

as the fill has happened (almost) then let the self fullfillment back up happen!

[trentendboy] 11/8/2016 14:39

With quality growth stocks like this you just need to buy and hold.

[adh0] 11/8/2016 14:38

I think its just psychological Charlie. They become a self fullfilling prophecy.

[jarega85] 11/8/2016 14:38

Completely agree, although I'm surprised as to where it is and could have sold on the results, I personally choose not to and feel there is a lot more to come!

[propercharlie] 11/8/2016 14:37

I do not understand why a gapmust be filled. Is it because there is stock with market makers held before the gap that must be disposed of at on or near the gap start? is 6 near enough, if so were done!

[nurdin] 11/8/2016 14:32

Why not ignore the day to day gyrations and focus on the fundamentals?This has a long way to go of that I am convinced.