Nmc Health Share Discussion Threads

[aquaesulis01] 21/8/2019 16:26

Love the smell of shorters burning in the morning

[aquaesulis01] 21/8/2019 16:16

Could be a good couple of days for you moneypenny, hot on the heels on the press announcement that Daniel Craig is to shoot another Bond Movie :)

[alexka1] 21/8/2019 16:15

That has also been my view. Let's hope tomorrow and the days after. Would be great!

[deanmatlazin] 21/8/2019 16:08

Got a feeling shorter is going to get squeeze tomorrow

[moneypenny2018] 21/8/2019 15:56

For those interested in my calls look at my posting history and judge if I get things right or not.

[moneypenny2018] 21/8/2019 15:55

AQR is strong opponent? Lol they added shorts hoping falling markets would help their short in a generally illiquid stock listed in a relatively illiquid market... But they are ignoring 1) market will not crash and 2) there are others out there that have been sniffing this who have deeper pockets so why would they make it easy for them?

[terrysmith1] 21/8/2019 15:29

I'm hoping for the stock to rise again. I'm currently £6k down and will be happy just to draw even. The ride since March has not been a nice one :-(

[mister md] 21/8/2019 14:51

only 308m shares in issue ? no wonder they can manipulate it so easily

[alexka1] 21/8/2019 14:47

So getting in and buying NMC stock at current levels is a fantastic opportunity for any investor with a investmen horizon of > 3 months.
I am long and have been long since before the drop, i continued to add and i am not worried. I am MASSIVELY long for a private investor. My target to get out is 3500... so thats 100% return and my time horizon is january 2020, so thats 5 months from now. Not bad of a return!

That said, i think and i hope that we will reach the 27-30 mark by end of september latest and the 22 mark by end of next week.
I would have said 27 by next week but unfortunately i think AQR wont let it go that high , judging on the last shorts they added, but lets see.

In any of the scenario, I see the stock going up and up and up. The stock has achieved rock bottom levels and the only way is up. Just have some nerves and patience, and when you get in, be able to sustain a 10-15% drop psychologically and mark to market wise as AQR is a strong oponent but definitely this is reaching the end of the cycle.

[alexka1] 21/8/2019 14:28

Yes AQR is making over 30-35% profit, they have done very well for themselves. Time to get out. AQR succeeded as they managed to identify a stock, with medium liquidity and drive down the price with the way they have shorted it, created the downward trend and luckily enough for them, they got joined by a bunch of short sellers, a bad biased report by jeffries, and luckily for them you had the Burford fiasco and thin liqudiity in august. They are probably wondering now how to get out of the position, hence their aggressive selling in the last week to hold and keep the price very low.
I wouldnt be surprised if tomorrow and friday AQR continue on selling to pressure the stock and try to keep the trend and to try to get out slowly from it in september.
However, one thing i am sure of is that the company is doing great, have great prospects for growth, have addressed most of the concerns of the analysts, main shareholders aswell (pledge repaid - although nothing wrong in a plegde!). The stock is very cheap, growth is solid and expected to remain solid, IVF is a booming business. Healthcare in Saudi need to be developped and the have the experience and first mover advantage. I am hoping that tomorrow the trend changes, and if it doenst change by much, I am confident that by end of September once investors hear out NMC and once investors are back to work and go through all the data and the cause of teh recent fall in august and re assurances of the reuslts tomorrow, big buyers will come in and then... AQR and their friends will be out for sure! In a any case they have to take profir before year end, its a HF afterall ! :) they wont short indefinitely.

[mister md] 21/8/2019 13:31

they'd better take their profits quickly then

[steeplejack] 21/8/2019 13:30

Well,AQR have done rather well shorting NMC.....even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.

[dickiehh] 21/8/2019 13:15

AQR hedge fund appear to be the biggest short better here, based on their quant models. Lots of articles to suggest that AQR are suffering, investors are pulling out their money and they performed very badly in 2018. https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/redemptions-hit-quant-king-aqr-in-performance-slump-20190509

[mister md] 21/8/2019 13:12

Well the shorters seem to have done very well here, hope its now time for a short squeeze / rally back to 2000-2500p range

[steeplejack] 21/8/2019 13:00

My guess is that some are staff working on proprietary books.Volatility is the attraction for them and the vain hope that they can influence the price with timely observations.An ability that I wish I possessed

[mister md] 21/8/2019 12:38

I do find it odd that there have been a few new accounts posting only on NMC - why not stick to one username ?

[moneypenny2018] 21/8/2019 12:36

Who are these random people coming in this board with an account set up only a few days ago.

[mister md] 21/8/2019 12:32

I'm relatively new to the stock, but my understanding is Revenue and Profit will show solid growth, but focus is on Receivables level and Cash position (as well as the Outlook of course) - if those are showing improvement then the rally is on IMHO DYOR etc

[vanclark221] 21/8/2019 12:25

What might be the reason for the volatility? The company seems to have been trading at 4000 and now trading at 1800+ level. Could not find nay negative news. Seems like short-sellers have been attacking the stock. Would love to hear your thoughts

[mister md] 21/8/2019 12:17

Shareprice has been quite volatile last few days - hoping to see it firmly above 2000p on tomorrow's results - fingers crossed

[vanclark221] 21/8/2019 12:05

Hello, am new here. Request forum help

NMC Health had a return on equity of 19% for the last year which is way better than the health industry average of 11%
In my book, the highest quality companies have a high return on equity, despite the low debt.
Is it the right time to accumulate the stock?

[roy65] 21/8/2019 11:43

NMC organising roadshows and round tables is a good sign. There has been a good spike this morning. Keeping a close watch on this

[roy65] 21/8/2019 11:41

NMC organising roadshows and round tables is a good sign. There has been a good spike this morning. Keeping a close watch on this

[steeplejack] 21/8/2019 09:20

I think AQR have overdone the size of this short position.Afterall,unless they keep increasing the short,ultimately (one hopes!) buying pressure will push the stock higher.AQR could find it very difficult to reduce its position.Bearing in mind that the management purchased stock recently,I would surmise that prima facie,the results will be fine.However,the management needs to apply itself to a fuller analysis of the unsettling rising receivables number.This is key.