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[turvart] 26/1/2020 11:56

Meanwhile,

No I'm not losing anything! GKN are the powerhouse behind MRO!

[gettingrichslow] 26/1/2020 11:51

“getting,

you've never praised me the way you have with Tournesol.”

That’s not strictly true Meanwhile. I’ve praised many of your posts in the past, including your points over the years on the EU etc, but I’ve also been critical of some of your posts, particularly when you’ve attempted to be ‘analytical217; which, frankly, I don’t think is your strongest suit and you get a bit overwhelmed.

As I’ve said before, some of your posts on Melrose in late 2017 and early 2018 were of high quality, and I hope you can regain that form.

[minerve 2] 26/1/2020 11:51

tournesol

You make some points and then I ask a question. You state the EU have been brainwashing the youth and I ask you this question:

Do you not think Rupert Murdoch via his UK tabloids and his US Fox channel does exactly the same thing?

If you are going to remove the EU, which I agree wasn't perfect, you have to be absolutely sure you are going to replace it with something better. To suggest we are gaining democracy and sovereignty by leaving is fallacy if you are a trading nation. Larger trading blocks will use their economic weight to force standards and policy upon us. We are already seeing this with our likely capitulation on digital tax with the US.

MEPs were supposed to be representing us in Brussels and if you think we have failed in steering the EU more in our direction that is the failing of UK politicians, government and MEPs. Farage carries the most guilt in this regard. A member who doesn't want to be a member should never have been allowed to be a member. You'll never get anything done if members just want to cause confusion and not put UK's interests forward with regards to staying in the membership.

It seems you have travelled all over Europe, very fortunate. I hope you realise that the privileged position you baby boomers have had over the last four decades could now be taken away from our youth. My daughter has put much effort into learning languages with the view to perhaps working in the EU. You have just made her opportunity more difficult for some fantasy of imperialism of old, and are probably unlikely to be around, once and if, the benefits start to show. In all likelihood they won't.

Boris will borrow and pump billions into the economy and the gammons will buy it as if it is a Brexit effect. It will not be and the Ponzi scheme with soon run out unless very clever policy and infrastructure is put in place to quickly replace it.

A company that uses JIT manufacturing will not be able to compete - all things being equal - with supply chains and customers across a UK border than within the EU. I hope you understand that very basic concept that the Bolsover and Crewe and Nantwich gammons didn't seem to grasp. We cannot be a successful nation based on corner shops, selling pork pies and entertaining GIG economy - I hope you understand that too.

[meanwhile] 26/1/2020 11:35

Turvart,

You're losing it again.

[turvart] 26/1/2020 11:13

GKN will pull MRO up, but to be serious honest it shouldn't be like that! MRO would be nothing if they didn't have GKN on the books!

[turvart] 26/1/2020 11:09

To be honest on what I have researched I really wish GKN could not have been a takeover bid from MRO because GKN have so much to offer!

[turvart] 26/1/2020 11:04

Meanwhile,

I'm sorry if I got side tracked with the Brexit talk, I confess I made a mistake but It's so easy to get side tracked into that sort of talk.

[turvart] 26/1/2020 11:00

For the record getting back to MRO then yes I'm very positive about MRO, they bought out GKN of which is going to be a power house in the defence sector.

[meanwhile] 26/1/2020 10:59

Turvart,

Having translated your latest post, you have now regained my support.

[meanwhile] 26/1/2020 10:57

getting,

you've never praised me the way you have with Tournesol.

[turvart] 26/1/2020 10:55

To be honest Meanwhile, I'm not really bothered what you think of me, I know what GKN are going to do, the chat went into Brexit of which I admit I got caught up into the conservation, but at the end of the day it's the MRO thread and Yes I'm positive!

[meanwhile] 26/1/2020 10:41

Turvart started quite well on this board only a few days ago but is steadily losing my support.

[gettingrichslow] 26/1/2020 10:28

Tournesol, thanks for a very good summary. I agree on every point you make and I have exactly the same view as you on my feelings towards Europeans as opposed to the EU. I actually think your summary is probably the best summary I’ve seen and could well be the best explanation of what has happened over the last 3.5 years, for people all over the UK.

[turvart] 26/1/2020 10:28

What you remainers seem to forget is that Sterling is one of the strongest currencies in the World and never ever got converted into the UK system of Euro's but the remainers don't even think of that because they are so dense!

[turvart] 26/1/2020 10:24

Why would anyone in the right frame of mind want to stay in the EU?

[meanwhile] 26/1/2020 10:20

brexitplus shouldn't attempt to excuse his bigotry and his gloating over the fall of remainers by pretending they are all 'Horrible' people.

This is how insane people think.

[brexitplus] 26/1/2020 09:31

Keyno, BILD May not be to your taste but a German perspective is welcome.

And I love the way Heseltine has asked for Remoaners “noses not to be rubbed in it” saying Brexit is divisive. Of course had the bad-Losers actually won he would have stayed very quiet and not worried about Brexiteers in the slightest. Horrible man.

[tournesol] 26/1/2020 09:22

Minerve

If you wish to disagree with me then disagree with what I've actually said. Trying to put words in my mouth is not useful.

[turvart] 26/1/2020 00:00

Why would anyone in the right frame of mind even think that the UK would prosper in the EU?

The UK average worker is paid less than the EU worker compared with France and Germany!

Why is it that the UK worker has to work harder than any EU Country just to support the other EU countries? WHY? because we the UK workers have been exploited by our UK government that became slaves and yes men to Brussels.

[minerve 2] 25/1/2020 23:43

It seems to me the baby boomers all have a screw loose and are hanging onto the coat tails of an empire long gone, apart from one or two of course. :)

[minerve 2] 25/1/2020 23:41

"How has it managed to gain such a hold on the minds of the young and the politically/economically naive?"

Naive? Really? So Rupert Murdoch does not partake in the brainwashing of individuals and The creature from Jekyll Island has no links with US plutocrats? Is that what you are saying?

[yertiz] 25/1/2020 20:50

A weekend EU - how close to the truth is that? And Newquay is much more than sunning, surfing and drinking....typical uneducated comments from our Marxist Corbynite. You forgot the County Line business, largest growth industry in Cornwall, apparently.

[turvart] 25/1/2020 20:25

Well the proof of the pudding was certainly at the election, my whole family voted Tory just to get us out of Brexit, it was almost like a second referendum.

[keyno] 25/1/2020 20:02

Bild, AKA Bilge (the 'e' is silent and the 'g' soft).