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[brexitplus] 02/2/2019 20:11

Steeplejack. A large percentage of those who voted Remain will be dead too. Just look at the Lords, heseltine included!

I believe that 12.9 million people eligible to vote didn’t do so. Obviously they are thick, ignorant, morons like us Brexiteers. Had they voted would the winning margin be bigger?

Also, will all trade between us and the EU cease on 29th March?

[brexitplus] 02/2/2019 20:10

Great win for England. Ireland demolished. One in the eye for Varadkar. Good Irish name that!!!

[steeplejack] 02/2/2019 19:54

...."the important thing is where we will be in 5, 10, 15 or 20 years."........very true,other than ironically,a large percentage of those who voted Brexit will be dead within 20 years,presuming actuarial calculations hold good.There is unquestionably,a rapid change in the world economic order taking place.However,I'm not convinced that broking of deals with the likes of China,India,Indonesia or even the USA are going to be easy.If the UK became critical of China's politics or tech companies,you can bet they'll pull any trade agreement.India will probably want some sort of free movement of labour.Indonesia will simply be a nightmare and the USA will drive a very hard bargain and letting in their chlorinated products could compromise agricultural arrangements with the EU.If you recognise these truths,fair enough,full steam ahead but don't con yourself that leaving the cosiest little economic trade club on the planet isn't going to hurt.

[brexitplus] 02/2/2019 17:35

Poor little Porky. Truth hurts. He keeps filtering me. How many times has he said of me “I have nothing to learn from you.”

[minerve] 02/2/2019 17:30

getting is also filtered. No more posts directed to him.

[minerve] 02/2/2019 17:12

Don't waste your time little man. You are filtered. I have nothing to learn from you. You are a degenerate. This is my last post directed to you.

[brexitplus] 02/2/2019 16:59

Oh Porky, you really are a disappointment. Even though We are trying to help you you seem determined not to learn. There are three things you need to learn.

1 I’m sure your mummy told you not to boast about how much pocket money you get. Boasting will stop you making and keeping friends.

2 Making friends is important in life. I’m sure mummy told you that too. But you seem not to want friends unless they agree with you all the time. Look at your former friend Meanwhile. He was nice to you but you went and spoilt it by being nasty to him. You really are a very naughty boy.

3 Nice Uncle Getting is only trying to help when he suggests you may have something call Bipolar. There is a lady I know who is called a child psychologist. I think we need an appointment to see her.

We are all worried about you. If you don’t take advice you will find that no nice girls will want to marry you and you will end up a lonely, bitter and twisted old man who sole love will be posting nasty things on the internet.

Now you don’t want to end up like that. Or do you?

[meanwhile] 02/2/2019 12:20

Come on now, now come on, come now, on now, come now on, on, on, on.

Why can't we all just get along?

[minerve] 02/2/2019 12:11

Dream on getting. I have never been outfoxed, I am never on the run, and I am no coward to the likes of little shrimps like you and Brexit. I decide whether I am in the mood to respond to your stupidity - that is all.

I've told you I have a degree, I've also told you from where. We are still waiting for YOU to tells us what degree you have and from which university.

As for negotiation you need to remember that the best form of policing a contract is for both sides to have integrity and commitment towards the common goal that is to be signed. Any behaviour or actions outside of those requirements leads to poor negotiation - that would include pretending you can walk away when the opposition knows you can't afford to and saying one thing and going back to parliament and saying another.

[minerve] 02/2/2019 11:42

I don't need your money, help or advise getting. I have become successful BECAUSE I generally don't deal with clowns like you, and when I have to, I put people like you properly in their place. The straight jacket of an internet portal doesn't allow me in this case and that is why you get away with being a mouthy sad little cretin.

[gettingrichslow] 02/2/2019 11:38

Have you forgotten? You said you were moving to Stockholm! I'm more than happy to pay for your one way ticket. In fact I'll happily pay for a stretch limo to pick you up from your crumby house in your litter-infested town (your words not mine) to get you down to the airport and out of this country. Just send me your bank details, the long number on your debit card and the 3 digit security code on the back and I'll arrange it.

[minerve] 02/2/2019 11:36

When we leave the EU we will go to these other countries like the US and they will say dance and we will have to dance. End of. To believe we will have stronger negotiating power than if we were in the EU is delusional. Of course, governments will aways paint the story as win-win but those of us who actually have wisdom and intelligence will see otherwise.

Leaving the EU means the right-wing can be more right and the left-wing more left. I actually think the EU had it about right. The fact that the EU didn't seem to work in our favour was two-fold: First, our representation in Brussels was poor - a symptom of a mouthy MEP wanting to leave rather than work towards the common good and a general level of poor politicians, bureaucrats and civil servants; and, the UK always sought concessions for The City which destroyed any gains this country could have benefited from elsewhere.

When Farage goes on about strained services he never aknowledged the fact that central government funding has been screwed down ever since the Tories came to power. He never acknowledge the fact that a very large percentage of those who deliver the services are foreigners and many are non-EU. The ignorant amongst us also seem to forget that crony capitalism depends on cheap labour and benefits from close geographical trade. Why do you think Dyson moved to Singapore?

You have been brainwashed into believing the EU is your enemy when in fact it is your friend. Well done chaps. You will find out, only when it is too late.

[minerve] 02/2/2019 11:23

I thought the benefits were supposed to be immediate? Remember the stupid bus and Boris slogan?

Now, it's "think long-term". It used to be a bright future, now its "well, we have had to ration before so we can take the pain like we did during WW2".

Hello? Hello? Anyone at home?

I don't want to ration. I don't want any pain. I don't want empty shelves. I don't want delays at airports or Dover. Why? Because I am used to not having to deal with things like this.

I certainly don't want to have to put up with these things because 17.2 million doughnuts have been brainwashed by Murdoch propaganda and delusions of sovereignty and democracy.

Why should I have to suffer through your ignorance and your stupidity?

[gettingrichslow] 02/2/2019 11:17

I was at a conference recently where 20 or so business leaders were asked which countries would have the biggest economies in the world by 2050. The consensus was that it would be India, China, USA, Indonesia, Brazil, Russia, Mexico, probably in that order. Remainers may want to stare at that list for a while - NO EU COUNTRIES!! So surely it's obvious how we should be positioning ourselves for the future, while Italy sinks into recession and the French pull on their yellow vests again?! 56 days to go!!

[meanwhile] 02/2/2019 11:06

I agree completely, getting.

We should think long term. MRO, £10 by Christmas 2025.

[gettingrichslow] 02/2/2019 10:59

Trauma of this, stress of that, victim of this, worries about that....how about you man up, Minny, and realise that the UK will come through any early problems and become a stronger, better place. Remainers seem to only think about the short term - ooohhh we may not have avocados on the shelves in April 19!!!! - so what?? - the important thing is where we will be in 5, 10, 15 or 20 years. Where is the debate about that? The company I work for has a 30 year plan and focusses on the long term every bit as much as focussing on the next few months - I wish we (UK PLC) would start doing the same.

[minerve] 02/2/2019 10:22

MEANWHILE

Give it rest. I don't know what your game is. You know you have about 0% in common with those two other than the Brexit vote.

Enjoy your day. :)

[meanwhile] 02/2/2019 10:18

brexit is my friend. getting might be some day if he pulls his socks up.

"Experts". My definition of an expert is someone who knows 5% of a subject against the general public's 3%.
They have an almost equal chance of being wrong.

[minerve] 02/2/2019 10:14

Sure.

Listen: Find out for yourselves. There has been enough warnings, advise from experts. Let's do it. At least it will give me the opportunity to be smug and say "I told you so". Of course, you Brexit types will always blame somebody else for your own failings. That is why many of you never get anywhere is life. Brexit and getting being prime examples.

[meanwhile] 02/2/2019 10:08

Economies of scale are not relevant here.

Being in the EU for 40 years has taught us a lot about how, and how not, to trade and we have
an EU model to now optimise to meet our specific economy, rather than trying to suit 27 disparate economies. The bitterness of the EU towards our departure comes from their fear of this.

[meanwhile] 02/2/2019 09:45

You're welcome, brexitplus.
I hope you and your numerous relatives and friends have a nice day.

[meanwhile] 02/2/2019 09:41

Minerve - "EU-Japan trade: Five things about the world's biggest deal"

Also from the BBC report :-
"Japan's government has promised to negotiate an ambitious new free trade deal with London - but only once the future relationship between Britain and the EU is fixed.
The UK's Department for International Trade has said the EU-Japan trade deal would increase UK GDP by up to £3bn "in the longer term".
Trade Secretary Liam Fox says he wants to use the deal as the basis for a "new, even stronger partnership after we leave the EU".

So it's a good start point for our own, simpler and more ambitious Japan -UK deal.