M&g Share Discussion Threads

[woodhawk] 28/3/2024 12:05

Louis Brandeis,

Applying my own methodology has resulted in a very decent - and growing - income, with miniscule tax, and with very little work involved in generating it. That's was my objective and I have achieved it. Speaking for myself, therefore, I have no interest in your "personal advice" - but thanks anyway.

As for your rather pompous "anyone and his dog could have made money with a little effort" - funny how so many are currently struggling then, isn't it? No offence intended.

[rongetsrich] 28/3/2024 12:04

Smurf, what are you rambling on about????? Please give us all a laugh and tell me what post number I said I do anything other than buy and occasionally sell shares.You may enjoy posting nonsense, but tell us all where your confusion has arrived! You've made my day for talking at odds with all of my recent posts.

[louis brandeis] 28/3/2024 11:53

No offence Woodhawk but anyone and his dog could have made money with a little effort over the last decade where interest rates - cost of money - was zip. It is going to be much much harder going forward for companies to make similar levels of money and throw all the capital off to shareholders. Having the right methodology is going to be more important than probably any other time this century.

[smurfy2001] 28/3/2024 11:49

Rongetsrich,


Spread bets and CFDs are complex instruments and come with a high risk of losing money rapidly due to leverage. 69% of retail investor accounts lose money when trading spread bets and CFDs with this provider. You should consider whether you understand how spread bets and CFDs work, and whether you can afford to take the high risk of losing your money.

[louis brandeis] 28/3/2024 11:47

Compounding dividends is NOT the same as compounding earnings and I would personally advise against this methodology. Dividends paid may or may not be lower than a company's earnings and if they are higher you are receiving some income at the expense of increased debt and a lower net asset value. Effectively you could see this as part of your capital being repaid. Also, the methodology will attract you to high yielding stocks which are generally mature and have little future growth. These companies pay large dividends in part BECAUSE they don't have opportunity to invest the capital themselves at attractive returns so why would you take your dividend and reinvest it back into a company that has little growth prospects...

[woodhawk] 28/3/2024 11:30

tornado12,

I hold about 20 shares. Several financials, some REITs, some oil, tobacco, mining, renewables, comms, a housebuilder, a couple of funds. All large divi payers, barring a couple of comparatively insignificant holdings in a couple of speculative small companies.

Over the past 8 years, my divi income has grown considerably from £8.5K to £40K p.a. Pretty much all reinvested. Total divi income £190K. My trading profit over those same 8 years is £170K. My divi income is likely to further outstrip my trading profits as I do significantly less trading these days. As most are and have been ISA'd (plus a much smaller SIPP) I have paid very little tax whilst still having a tax contribution into my SIPP. Within the next year or so, I will probably pay no tax whatsoever on my investment income/profits. I do pay tax on my separate pension income from previous employment.

[andratx] 28/3/2024 11:29

Hargreaves Lansdowne showing ex div today, 13.2p

[tornado12] 28/3/2024 11:27

I was hoping for tips and advise from experienced people on this board. I know is not the only approach and many of you are gaining more than my 10% on capital returns. But it’s the risk vs reward decision each of us take with our hard earned and taxed income. If there are investment ideas following compounded income approach, please share …

[rongetsrich] 28/3/2024 11:15

Where's the 80 per cent come from, post a link for us to fact check you.

[pierre oreilly] 28/3/2024 11:08

80% of traders lose their lot. That's factual.

All posters raking in between 30k and 80k pa in tax free divis are long term investors. That's factual (if you accept what people post)

I'd say info on how to get to making 80kpa while doing fa is decent info, whereas how to go bust isn't.

[rongetsrich] 28/3/2024 11:03

Folks, are we seeing a trend here? I've never seen anything of worth, factual or analysis from Woody, Irish Pete and Riverman... at all, just the rubbishing of other investors, sneering and being of little worth to a group that could do all of the above; matriarchs in their own worlds.

[tornado12] 28/3/2024 11:01

Woodhawk, I am a follower of your investment strategy with compounding divi and income above 30k/yr tax free in ISA. I invested capital over 4 years and now mainly reinvesting dividends. Can you give me an insight in how many different shares you hold and from which sectors ? Mine are heavily focussed on the financials as they deliver more consistent income >8%, but wondered if there are other sectors I should consider ? Thanks in advance for your feedback

[woodhawk] 28/3/2024 10:59

Riverman77,

Same here - I post less and less now. Mostly juvenile gamblers, few investors.

[rongetsrich] 28/3/2024 10:54

So you will post on condition?

[riverman77] 28/3/2024 10:51

It's impossible to have a worthwhile discussion when there are rarely any useful posts - as a result I hardly ever look at this thread, but I do know this company well and would be happy to contribute if things ever improve.

[rongetsrich] 28/3/2024 10:46

Is dealing in shares gambling? Seeing as the value can go up or down, I would say investing in any share is GAMBLING. Welcome to reality.

[rongetsrich] 28/3/2024 10:38

Riverman, what input do you have right now on a dead share? You can't whine about a discussion unless you have a discussion point....

[riverman77] 28/3/2024 10:36

Could we possibly get this thread back to talking about the company, rather than attempting to trade the s*dding xd date?

[rongetsrich] 28/3/2024 10:32

Has it gone XD? lolI'm back in 'gambling'!!I did make a profit, but enough!! I don't want Woody to have a stroke or Irish Pete to realise the stupidity of their nonsense posts. Now to wait for the next divi!

[louis brandeis] 28/3/2024 10:09

UK sends Canary Wharf landlord first cladding bill under new powers

Housing department seeks to force Yianis Group to pay £20.5mn towards building safety works


FT


One to watch out for folks.

[skinny] 28/3/2024 08:55

Perhaps there's a message there about SS.

[slogsweep] 28/3/2024 08:55

It has gone xd just looked up report figures on SS bear no relation to report which is not very helpful. Thanks for help in sorting it out.