Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[alphorn] 04/12/2020 15:58

lef - coffee time. Did you mean your last post to be entertaining? ;))

[mr.elbee] 04/12/2020 15:46

GS ALWAYS is down on LLoyds what is new?

but see this....UK business stuff...
Goldman Sachs (GS) has broken with consensus to predict a big rebound for the UK economy next year, even as others downgrade their expectations for 2021.

Economists at Goldman on Friday upgraded their forecasts for UK gross domestic product (GDP) growth in 2021 and 2022. The investment bank expects the economy to grow by 7% next year and 6.2% the year after.

Sven Jari Stehn, Goldman Sachs’ chief European economist, admitted the calls were “significantly above consensus” in a note sent to clients.

READ MORE: Goldman Sachs: 'The UK is a buy'

The median private sector forecast for GDP growth next year is 5.7% in 2021, according to forecasts compiled by the Treasury.

Goldman’s call also goes against the prevailing tide — in recent weeks forecasts have mostly been cutting their estimates for UK GDP growth next year. The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), the UK’s official spending watchdog, and the OECD have both trimmed around three percentage points off forecasts made earlier in the year.

Jari Stehn said he believes the UK is “well placed” to benefit from a COVID-19 vaccine next year given the large quantity it has pre-ordered and fast approval by regulators.

[lefrene] 04/12/2020 15:18

The thing is the UK has been such a patsy for decades that the French have come to believe that they own us and our fish, and behave like conquerors. The only thing a bully understands is a hard smack on the nose. It's quite funny seeing Macron trying to throw his weight around, I think his day's are pretty much numbered. And all this because they were too mean and arrogant to cut Dave a little bit of slack a few years ago. The whole edifice needs to be demolished and replaced with what it is supposed to be a free trade zone, and perhaps a bit of coordination so that Europe can present a cohesive face to the rest of the world.

[xxxxxy] 04/12/2020 15:00

Macron going to guillotine himself. EUSSR a bloody mess.No DealWTO

[xxxxxy] 04/12/2020 14:58

an@BarkhamPosted December 4, 2020 at 11:07 am | PermalinkSir JohnIt is obvious to even the casual observer that these over blown negotiations have never been about trade, they have never been about mutual cooperation with a neighbour. The whole point has been who rules in the UK, is it our own sort of democratically elected Parliament or is it the EU Commission.Couple that with the desperate need of these people to 'punish' so as to keep everyone in check. It still gets down to the UK must become a colony of the EU. Maybe baby steps for now, ensure the UK cant do anything with out permission and then load the UK with the full overseeing control that has become the Commissions style.Reply?ian@BarkhamPosted December 4, 2020 at 11:13 am | PermalinkThroughout these talks the nastiness and pettiness of the EU Commission has been exposed. Why would anyone want to trade with them or be under their control.Perspective the EU at best affects less than 8% of UK GDP, will that all disappear because of tariffs? I think not. There is more to the UK dynamism than the EU.Turn that around 92% of UK GDP is being held back from having to obey rule from Brussels when they done have any dealings with the EU.The EU is not needed at any level for the UK to be a success.

[geckotheglorious] 04/12/2020 14:56

K38
"BUT Trump has enemies within his own party who weren't prepared to fight the corruption as long as they get rid of him"

Yes that is because he is not a Republican - he is a Democrat. Always has been a Democrat in fact!!!

What many want is a proper Conservative like Ted Cruz, DeSantis(Florida Governor)

[maxk] 04/12/2020 14:52

If Doris was thinking of a handbrake turn, this statement surely rules it out..




"What is certain is we will not be able agree a deal that doesn't respect our fundamental principles on sovereignty, fishing and control."

[maxk] 04/12/2020 14:46

They might be free to buy the fishes, but thats not their game, they want to nick the fish...gratis.

[xxxxxy] 04/12/2020 14:41

483.Maybe. But better now to let the EUSSR hang its own self.No DealWTOLiberty

[lefrene] 04/12/2020 14:41

xxxxxy, not at all, the French are perfectly free to buy our fish! :¬)

[xxxxxy] 04/12/2020 14:37

Seems going to be no British fish at all for the French.Merci Macron.No DealWTOLiberty.

[utrickytrees] 04/12/2020 14:24

Not got a problem with with a phased withdrawal of frogs from British Waters. Were going to need time to build our fleet and infrastructure. Great news for places like Hull Grimsby lowestoft etc.

[bobdiamond1] 04/12/2020 14:22

Macron doing his best to put a spanner in the works.

[smurfy2001] 04/12/2020 14:22

I take it bank stocks are awaiting the Brexit deal

[k38] 04/12/2020 14:19

G&GWe all know, the world knows Trump won the election. What you don't understand.. or perhaps the ignorant like the fake gold finger is that Trump had enemies not only Hillary and Pelosi plus the rest democratic mafia BUT Trump has enemies within his own party who weren't prepared to fight the corruption as long as they get rid of him.It's incredible that 2/3 of the political establishment of the "greatest" democracy of the world will allow destroying democracy in the name of... hate!

[geckotheglorious] 04/12/2020 14:11

In other news, surprising result from calls to defund the Police, NOT.




“Defunding Police Backfires In Minneapolis As Shootings, Homicides, And Carjackings Surge”

Minneapolis has transformed into an inner-city warzone in six months, just like Baltimore and Detroit, with violent crime surging to levels not seen in decades after millions of dollars in police budget cuts. 



“Left Wing and their idiotic policies kill people yet again”

[geckotheglorious] 04/12/2020 14:03

Nope no fraud here!!!!


“Dominion alone is responsible for the injection, or fabrication, of 290,000 illegal votes in Michigan, that must be disregarded.”

#Michigan: An expert witness for @SidneyPowell1 says there were 4 “physically impossible” spikes of about 385,000 #Ballots.


Michigan Witness Says All Military Ballots Looked Like Xerox Copies - Had ZERO Trump Votes




Nope, definitely no fraud here

”Dominion Whistleblower Testifies On "Complete Fraud" At Detroit Voting Center”
A contractor for Dominion Voting Systems who was present during the Nov. 3 election at Detroit's TCF Center testified at a Senate Committee hearing on Tuesday, telling the panel that she saw fraud throughout the day, as well as on Nov. 4, according to the Epoch Times.
What I witnessed at the TCF Center was complete fraud. The whole 27 hours I was there, there were batches of ballots being ran through the tabulating machines numerous times, being counted 8 to 10 times. I watched this with my own eyes; I was there to assist with IT," said Melissa Carone, who added that there were 'completely untrained' people working night shift - including a friend she's known for two decades.




Still no fraud here!!!!

“CCTV Video Of Georgia Poll Workers Sparks Election Fraud Outrage”
Disturbing election night footage has emerged showing Georgia poll workers waiting for observers and news outlets to leave State Farm Arena in Atlanta after calling an end to counting for the night, before pulling out several large suitcases containing ballots from under a table.

The footage, presented by an attorney working with Republicans during a Thursday state Senate hearing, is perhaps the strongest direct evidence of potential fraud, and demands serious inquiry. In it, a handful of poll workers can clearly be seen staying behind after GOP observers say they were told to clear out. After the media packs up their belongings, the workers can be seen pulling out the suitcases and opening them at approximately 11 p.m.

Of note, earlier in the day, counting was paused for approximately 90 minutes due to what officials blamed on a 'water main break' - which turned out to be a lie, and was in fact a 'slow leak,' according to news.com.au.

Here are two segments of the clip, which we recommend watching on full screen (as well as watching the full video):

First, watch the media in the lower-right quadrant at the long table at 10:40 p.m.



It is video from the surveillance camera at State Farm Arena where Fulton County election workers scanned ballots late into the night after falsely announcing they were shutting down. [...]





And this is just the tip of the iceberg!!!

[cheshire pete] 04/12/2020 13:58

Red wall want fall for a fudged brexit diku. Boris will want another term. Real brexit is his route to greatness.

[cheshire pete] 04/12/2020 13:56

EU in disarray with France threatening to veto a trade deal. Poland and Hungary threatening to veto EU budget. More cracks appearing, they no longer present a unified front.

We can't continue trying to negotiate with this shambolic crew. Time to call a halt Boris. This is a waste of everyone's time.

No deal, and let everyone start crimbo preps. instead.

[k38] 04/12/2020 13:55

When a partnership is not working anymore you break up and walk away.. that's what happens here.. Brexit was no mistake. Brussels break the deal of equal partnership and become a super nanny state.. dictators.The rest is history...welcome to UK.

[polar fox] 04/12/2020 13:50

A few minutes ago, a senior French guy, obviously in the political loop in Paris, close to Macron etc., was asked about the fisheries situation, on R4. He basically said that a fisheries deal is pretty much agreed - the French will continue with significant access, from which they will withdraw over a number of years. He advised to discount the surrounding noise from Paris as aimed mainly at their domestic market/voters.

Seems broadly in line with expectations to me. Presumably, the buffoon thinks he can sell it in the UK.

[diku] 04/12/2020 13:48

If ever there was going to be a clean Brexit it would have been done by now...more likely a fudged Brexit but to give an impression of a Brexit deal...